Batteries blowing up

silkakc · Oct 11, 2016

My current variable voltage mod list these safety features:

Short circuit protection, OLED flash and display "0.0 ohm"
Atomizer open circuit, OLED flash and display "9.9ohm"
Cell reverse protection
PCB over temperature protection
10 second overtime usage protection, no power output and OLED display "10S OVER"
Cell capacity protection, when cell capacity drop too low, cell indicator will flash\\

Would these prevent a battery explosion if they were working correctly?

Hitmetwice · Oct 12, 2016

silkakc said:
My current variable voltage mod list these safety features:

Short circuit protection, OLED flash and display "0.0 ohm"

Atomizer open circuit, OLED flash and display "9.9ohm"

Cell reverse protection

PCB over temperature protection

10 second overtime usage protection, no power output and OLED display "10S OVER"

Cell capacity protection, when cell capacity drop too low, cell indicator will flash\\

Would these prevent a battery explosion if they were working correctly?

Sure! In a perfect world. But we or the world isn't perfect.
Under normal use you'll have no problems.

Make a user mistake like charging with an adapter that supplies more than 5 volts...you'll probably have an issue.

Leave your device/battery in a hot car (it's like an oven in there)....you'll probably have an issue.

Your device falls into the fire....you'll probably have an issue.

The wrap on the replaceable battery is torn or has a hole in it...you'll probably have an issue.

There needs to be a certain level of understanding WRT battery safety over all. This applies to batteries in general not just ecigs. Cheers.

Zutankhamun · Oct 12, 2016

Hitmetwice said:
The wrap on the replaceable battery is torn or has a hole in it...you'll probably have an issue.

Agreed. With everything.
The problem is that people feel they are indestructible with their regs.
The direct short with a torn battery wrapper is a major concern.

Learn to rewrap. Super easy, super cheap. Nice and safe.
A hairdryer & shrink wrap. Done.
And don't forget your insulator.
:thumbs:

Smoke_too_much · Oct 12, 2016

englishmick said:
I've got a question. I think I've asked it before and not got an answer. Maybe someone here knows.

Is there any way of figuring out the condition of your battery, whether it's separate or built in? Seems like there should be something you could do with a multi meter to give you that information but I'm not too well up on this stuff.

This is stealing Reikihealer's thread but I think she's gotten her answer. I know when I was using Nicad batteries for RC models the way we tested them were through the use of recycler's which would charge them up and then automatically drain them back down while keeping track of their power curve and time it took them to drain. Maybe someone here with experience with Lipo's can tell us if the same sort of test would be appropriate.

Baditude · Oct 12, 2016

englishmick said:
Is there any way of figuring out the condition of your battery, whether it's separate or built in? Seems like there should be something you could do with a multi meter to give you that information but I'm not too well up on this stuff.

You should always do a routine physical inspection of your battery. Take note of the protective plastic wrap surrounding the cell for nicks, cuts, or tears; any metal showing can cause a short. Also inspect the "doughnut" insulator ring on the positive end. Replace the wrap or doughnut ring if damaged; vendors sell both.

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DC2 · Oct 12, 2016

Hitmetwice said:
Under normal use you'll have no problems.

Which is why the average consumer doesn't know they even need to care.

Hitmetwice said:
Make a user mistake like charging with an adapter that supplies more than 5 volts...you'll probably have an issue.

Leave your device/battery in a hot car (it's like an oven in there)....you'll probably have an issue.

Your device falls into the fire....you'll probably have an issue.

The wrap on the replaceable battery is torn or has a hole in it...you'll probably have an issue.

Which is all advice that the average consumer hasn't got a clue about.

Hitmetwice said:
There needs to be a certain level of understanding WRT battery safety over all. This applies to batteries in general not just ecigs.

So yes, I totally agree.

But who is doing the educating on these matters?
I don't see the media doing it.

And more importantly, I'm not seeing the vendors doing it.
Well, some are, but yeah.

Eskie · Oct 12, 2016

Smoke_too_much said:
This is stealing Reikihealer's thread but I think she's gotten her answer. I know when I was using Nicad batteries for RC models the way we tested them were through the use of recycler's which would charge them up and then automatically drain them back down while keeping track of their power curve and time it took them to drain. Maybe someone here with experience with Lipo's can tell us if the same sort of test would be appropriate.

That is done primarily to "condition" the battery. It is/was necessary to go through complete charge/discharge cycles with NiCad batteries due to the "memory effect" of those batteries. Recharging a partially charged Nicad would result in declines in full charge. Li batteries do not have memory issues and can safely be recharged at any point in the discharge cycle without affecting the total charge held by the battery.

David Wolf · Oct 12, 2016

Hitmetwice said:
I've been using a 5 volt 3 amp wall wart for months with my device that requires only 1 amp to charge. It creates less heat than the 1 amp wall wart supplied with the kit. Cheers.

David Wolf · Oct 12, 2016

David Wolf said:
Its not the charger hear you need to be worried about its the heat in the battery.

Hitmetwice · Oct 12, 2016

David Wolf said:

The answer I received from Mooch over a year ago...Istick 40 tc Charging Issues

David Wolf · Oct 13, 2016

I go by what the manufacturer states. If they say use a charger rated at X amps or less then that's what I use. They know the ratings of their device and battery better than I do. I follow the manufacturers operating instructions for equipment I work with in the power industry as an electrical/controls engineer for the same reason - it's safer that way

Mr. Robot · Oct 17, 2016

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