New batt option for 18650

[TennDave]

I ordered on 4/7 (Sat)...they came on 4/9 (Mon)- wow!! fast shipping and I don't mind paying a bit extra when they come so fast and packaged nicely. 80% charge on them to begin with- charged them up and have been vaping ever since- my favorite batts now- in my Grand-no nipple- no problem. In the Woodvil, it doesn't make contact, but easily remedied with a small cylinder of a magnet. Beats the AW IMR's hands down....sold all my old Ultrafire 18650's on the classies last night- no problem here- old batts paid for the new ones and then some!!! These batts are higly recommended!!!

 

[bushmaster]

I am considering buying some of these Panasonic batteries. I went to the site Strontium posted and found the batteries mentioned but also IMR Hybrid 2250mAh Panasonic CGR18650CH 18650 With Button Top. Are these new? I know there was some bantering over using a flattop battery in the REO mods. Are these the same as you folks have been discussing only with a button top?
New! Panasonic CGR18650CH With Top Button, 2250mAh IMR High Drain 18650 Battery Cell-Made in Japan

 

[TennDave]

Looks the same to me- they say it is, but w/ a button top...wish I had waited now although no big deal w/ a spacer it's fine in the woodvil. Without one, still works fine in a Grand

 

[ChrisEU]

How do they look the same? The original Panasonic is on the left in grey while the "Orbtronic" is on the right, in black with a sticker.

Whatever these are, they are not Panasonics.

 

[Justice]

How do they look the same? The original Panasonic is on the left in grey while the "Orbtronic" is on the right, in black with a sticker.

Whatever these are, they are not Panasonics.

Here it says they are Panasonic batts repackaged for Orbtronic.
Protected 3100mAh 18650 Li-ion Battery - Cell Panasonic NCR18650A - Protection ICs- Made in Japan - Top Button

$12.99
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Protected 3100mAh Panasonic NCR18650A 18650 Battery Cell - Assembled by Orbtronic. Cell , and protection IC made in Japan.Best 18650 Li-ion battery on the market- tested , and confirmed.

 

[mwa102464]

I've been using the Callies Kustoms 2250 version for about 3 months now in both my Grands, these are some super power cells I really like them.

 

[bushmaster]

How do they look the same? The original Panasonic is on the left in grey while the "Orbtronic" is on the right, in black with a sticker.

Whatever these are, they are not Panasonics.

Why? Because the stickers are different? The item description specifically states--"Bare cell: made by Panasonic-Made in Japan".
Ok, what does that mean? Is a bare cell just part of a battery that is manufactured by someone else or is it a battery that has no emblem attached to it? Just asking--I really don't know.

 

[muriarte]

Guys, has anyone seen these ones?
14500 SANYO 3.7V Li-ion Rechargeable Battery (AA Size)

I wonder if they are comparable to AWs... I just sent an email to orbtronic to inquire if they are IMR.

 

[ChrisEU]

The inner cells of that "Orbtronic" might be made by Panasonic, I don't know about that. But the result is an Orbtronic battery, not a Panasonic. The Kallies Customs I've seen pictures of are indeed genuine Panasonic batteries, with a simple sticker added.
The "Orbtronics" here look nothing like a Panasonic and we only have the word of the seller that they are.
I wouldn't risk it myself, I've seen too many battery fakes.

 

[Strontium]

The inner cells of that "Orbtronic" might be made by Panasonic, I don't know about that. But the result is an Orbtronic battery, not a Panasonic. The Kallies Customs I've seen pictures of are indeed genuine Panasonic batteries, with a simple sticker added.
The "Orbtronics" here look nothing like a Panasonic and we only have the word of the seller that they are.
I wouldn't risk it myself, I've seen too many battery fakes.

Why would Orbtronic sell original Panasonic at $8.99 at their store, and top button at $8.99 ??

Do you have any fake Panasonic ? I've never seen any fake Panasonic battery in my life.

Why would I buy Callie's same Panasonic cell for $18.95 ? Because of that small sticker

 

[Skeeter T]

Just received today some CGR18650CH's from Orbtronic and they are not labeled Panasonic, but they are labeled "MADE IN JAPAN". BTW, ordered them on 4/13 PM and received them on 4/16 PM. If you don't count Sat & Sun, that's one business day delivery from FLA to CAL, and shipped free via first class mail. That's fast.

If you look again, the ad for the button top states "Manufacturer: Panasonic - Orbtronic", which means it's a Panasonic re-wrapped by Orbtronic with a button top. I see no reason to doubt this. Orbtronic realized the button top is critical to some applications and surely have Panasonic's approval to add it. It's not critical in the Grand.

 

[bushmaster]

In regards to whether the new button-top Orbtronic batteries were indeed Panasonics, I decided to e-mail Orbtronics and ask them directly about it. They were more than willing to respond. As I understand the forum rules, I can't copy and paste an e-mail(unless it's a mass e-mail), so I will paraphrase what they said.
The button-top CGR18650CH is the same as the flat-top CGR18650CH. If you were to remove the sleeve from either battery, you would find the same Panasonic bar codes present on the cell. If you were to test battery performance, you would find them to be comparable. The button-top battery was created because of demand from personal vaporizer users and some flashlight hobbyists. It is the same CGR18650CH with a welded top button.

 

[nerak]

In regards to whether the new button-top Orbtronic batteries were indeed Panasonics, I decided to e-mail Orbtronics and ask them directly about it. They were more than willing to respond. As I understand the forum rules, I can't copy and paste an e-mail(unless it's a mass e-mail), so I will paraphrase what they said.
The button-top CGR18650CH is the same as the flat-top CGR18650CH. If you were to remove the sleeve from either battery, you would find the same Panasonic bar codes present on the cell. If you were to test battery performance, you would find them to be comparable. The button-top battery was created because of demand from personal vaporizer users and some flashlight hobbyists. It is the same CGR18650CH with a welded top button.

Great job Roger! Thank you so much!

 

[Decidion]

Thanks for following up on that Roger

Now, want to trade me 3 of the button tops for 3 flat tops?

 

[bushmaster]

Thanks for following up on that Roger

Now, want to trade me 3 of the button tops for 3 flat tops?

C'mon Decidion--don't make it harder for me than it already is. I have to find a way to convince my wife that I "need" some more batteries.

 

[TennDave]

Where to get a small button magnet for the flat top? I'm using a penny in my Woodvil which works, but afraid it really wouldn't allow the spring to compress if there were an issue (curve of the wood- not so much that the spring is compressed).

 

[bushmaster]

Where to get a small button magnet for the flat top? I'm using a penny in my Woodvil which works, but afraid it really wouldn't allow the spring to compress if there were an issue (curve of the wood- not so much that the spring is compressed).

I actually have a few, Dave. PM me your address and I'll send a couple off to you.

 

[TennDave]

I actually have a few, Dave. PM me your address and I'll send a couple off to you.

Wow, you're the best, Rodger!!

 

[Decidion]

Magnets here...

Gaussboys Super Magnets :: Discs :: 4mm x 1mm N48 Gold Plated Disc Magnet

I need to get a few myself.

 

[bushmaster]

Magnets here...

Gaussboys Super Magnets :: Discs :: 4mm x 1mm N48 Gold Plated Disc Magnet

I need to get a few myself.

If you haven't already ordered, Decidion, I have a couple more that I could spare. They're not doing anyone any good in my misc. box. Let me know.