New batt option for 18650

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mwa102464

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Where to get a small button magnet for the flat top? I'm using a penny in my Woodvil which works, but afraid it really wouldn't allow the spring to compress if there were an issue (curve of the wood- not so much that the spring is compressed).

Dave you dont need any spacer with the Panasonic CGR18650CH in your woodvil, they have a 1mm flat top on them and work fine with no spacer, been running these for months now and they work super in the woodvil, heck in everything. :)

I see a post here about the flat top being flush with the top of the Batt, this just isnt so, it does stick up 1MM, it looks flush but isnt, the spec is a 1mm flat top and all re-packers of this batt should be making them so they stick up 1MM.
 
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Dave you dont need any spacer with the Panasonic CGR18650CH in your woodvil, they have a 1mm flat top on them and work fine with no spacer, been running these for months now and they work super in the woodvil, heck in everything. :)

I see a post here about the flat top being flush with the top of the Batt, this just isnt so, it does stick up 1MM, it looks flush but isnt, the spec is a 1mm flat top and all re-packers of this batt should be making them so they stick up 1MM.
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Well, maybe my woodvil is a little more curved at the bottom than yours...I could set the battery in there a little off centered and it works, yes...but as I vape I sometimes lose the connection at the top. They do work in my Grand- no problem. Roger has sent me two magnets, so I'll try those- should be fine!!
 

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... I see a post here about the flat top being flush with the top of the Batt, this just isnt so, it does stick up 1MM, it looks flush but isnt, the spec is a 1mm flat top and all re-packers of this batt should be making them so they stick up 1MM.

Sorry, but do you have the specs handy which clearly call this out? I'm not sure which repackaged battery you are specifically referring to, but this thread was originally created around the Orbtronic version, which does have a 1mm button top, but which absolutely does *not* protrude beyond the top of the battery. The button top sits on a recessed surface that is 1mm below the top of the battery case.

See my pictures as proof...especially picture 3, which is still at a very slight angle so you can see the top surface of the button top.

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Here it says they are Panasonic batts repackaged for Orbtronic.
Protected 3100mAh 18650 Li-ion Battery - Cell Panasonic NCR18650A - Protection ICs- Made in Japan - Top Button

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Protected 3100mAh Panasonic NCR18650A 18650 Battery Cell - Assembled by Orbtronic. Cell , and protection IC made in Japan.Best 18650 Li-ion battery on the market- tested , and confirmed.
Thank you for clarifying that to members, because they need to UNDERSTAND that all Orbtronic did was put a PROTECTIVE circuit on it!

Also to let everybody know the AW IMR's are PANASONIC's, they just have the AW stamp on it! The difference between AW IMR 18650 High Drains and the PANASONIC CGR18650CH High Drains, The PANASONIC's are made with BETTER battery cells than the AW's hands down! Callies Kustoms actually has a video showing the performance on these batteries, making them SUPERIOR over the AW's!
 

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The inner cells of that "Orbtronic" might be made by Panasonic, I don't know about that. But the result is an Orbtronic battery, not a Panasonic. The Kallies Customs I've seen pictures of are indeed genuine Panasonic batteries, with a simple sticker added.
The "Orbtronics" here look nothing like a Panasonic and we only have the word of the seller that they are.
I wouldn't risk it myself, I've seen too many battery fakes.
I'm not trying to start something but this is misinformation, I've owned the ck bats and the Orbtronice bats, and I can tell you there is no difference except for the CK sticker and a price tag.

I would also appreciate some proof that the button top cells are not true Panasonic bats.....
 

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I'm not trying to start something but this is misinformation, I've owned the ck bats and the Orbtronice bats, and I can tell you there is no difference except for the CK sticker and a price tag.

I would also appreciate some proof that the button top cells are not true Panasonic bats.....

Are you sure there is still someone disputing that? At least in the CGR18650CH batteries?
Edit: My response is directed to the validity of the Panasonic button-top cells.
 
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Sorry, but do you have the specs handy which clearly call this out? I'm not sure which repackaged battery you are specifically referring to, but this thread was originally created around the Orbtronic version, which does have a 1mm button top, but which absolutely does *not* protrude beyond the top of the battery. The button top sits on a recessed surface that is 1mm below the top of the battery case.

See my pictures as proof...especially picture 3, which is still at a very slight angle so you can see the top surface of the button top.

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Take a look at the Panasonic website picture on the right top of the page please actually both pics here, =
http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/includes/pdf/ACA4000CE272-CGR18650CH.pdf


I think you are misunderstanding what I'm saying here, the 1mm flat top sticks up 1mm from the top of the power cell itself, not talking about the wrapper.

I cant help what YOUR battery has, the flat top is a 1mm flat top on the panny Batt, thats what it has on it, if yours is pushed down, not a 1mm flat top that proves nothing, and 1mm is very small,,, but it is the top that is on the Panasonic, PERIOD.,,, and the one on yours appears to be one of those at that.

Orbtronic is simply a reseller, maybe a certified Panasonic repacker not sure, probably so, but there all Panasonic Batts, wheather a Orbtronic, Callies Kustom, or any real one out there, they have a 1mm flat top,,,,, I believe they have a newer button top now as well,,, but a panny Batt is a Panny Batt, and thats that. The picture on the far right does show the flat top sticking up a tad past the top of the Batt as well, the actual top piece is the 1mm, I'm not talking about your wrapper, I'm talking it sticks up 1mm from the actual power cell....... some mods have different + connections, so it may work in some not in others or a spacer could be needed in some mods, in a Reo Woodvil no spacer needed, same with a Reo Grand.

I have heard of some that they didnt make contact in there provari ( jkmtwo being one of them ) however, I own 2 Provari's and the Panasonic works in both of mine no spacer needed, this also tells me that the + connection in the Provari could be slightly differently set or the chip set could have a + or - .1-.2 as well. I only use the Callies Kustom version myself because I trust I am getting a real Panasonic from callies Kustoms, I believe Orbtronics would also sell the real deal, but I cant speak for any other then the Callies I use and have purchased, the thread is also titled New Batt option for 18650 being the Panasonic Batt, who's Wrapper is on it really shouldn't matter in my opinion because they have to be a certified Panasonic packer, to be retailing the Batt or buy from one of the wholesalers to be real, other wise I wouldn't buy from that dealer myself.


@ TennDave,,, I dont have that problem in my woodvil,,,,,,,I dont see how you could lose connection unless your spring has sagged a little also, or is worn, or has had a short, unless there is a slight spec difference in your + connection, since there all 1 of a kind hand made there could be a + or - .1 and that could do it as well, maybe a satin wrap around the batt and under the bottle would also work possibly to hold the batt a bit tighter in place, just a thought.
 
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