Sigelei 213 owners thread

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Yeah, I like my Fuchai 213, wish it had the carbon fiber like yours. Your right, power wise it is great and how many people vape over 155 watts anyway.
The form factor and build quality are definitely worth the money just as long as you realize the limitations beforehand.

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Don't do Ti or Ni in it. Not even just for the danger levels of the metal getting too hot. It will Stair step dramatically if you do 2-3 hits in a row.

Chances are as far as any tested information out there exists I would assume that all F or Sig 213's don't do TC correctly. But for the most part on SS it's not the end of the world unless you are a chain vaper and the fire fine to use in TC. My educated guess is that everyone who says theirs work in TC, they are using SS and their vaping habits don't conflict with the issue. I don't use mine in TC with 316l any more, but it worked fine for me because at most I only take 3 puffs before putting my mod down.

Just make sure you understand the limitations when using it.

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Hi all. Sorry newb question. Got a new Fuchai 213. So far its really nice. Anyone got links on how to upgrade the firmware?

Welcome to ECF and the wonderful world of the 213, @Roood !

As you may have already found out, the 213 is not firmware upgradeable, a subject well discussed throughout this thread to the disappointment of all.
 

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Welcome to ECF and the wonderful world of the 213, @Roood !

As you may have already found out, the 213 is not firmware upgradeable, a subject well discussed throughout this thread to the disappointment of all.

Yeah I admit I was a bit lazy to read through as the office nets really crappy. I have friends using the Sigelei and some using the new Fuchai 213. Do far no firing issues. But havent seen anyone use the TC on it. Wanted to test mine but might do something wrong and screw. Oh and thanks for the welcome. :)
 
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Yeah I admit I was a bit lazy to read through as the office nets really crappy. I have friends using the Sigelei and some using the new Fuchai 213. Do far no firing issues. But havent seen anyone use the TC on it. Wanted to test mine but might do something wrong and screw. Oh and thanks for the welcome. :)

At 64 pages :shock:, I would have just asked too!

I liked the Sig 213 in power mode enough, I picked up the Fuchai 213 just to have one in a different color. I do very, very little TC and have a Lavabox DNA200 for when the urge arises, so I am fine just using the 213's in power mode. If you want to try TC, take some time and read through some of this thread or ask. I am sure those more knowledgeable will be happy to explain the adjustments and pitfalls. :D
 

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Yeah I admit I was a bit lazy to read through as the office nets really crappy. I have friends using the Sigelei and some using the new Fuchai 213. Do far no firing issues. But havent seen anyone use the TC on it. Wanted to test mine but might do something wrong and screw. Oh and thanks for the welcome. :)
The misfiring isn't a defect like some electrical gremlin. Though it can be something you either don't ever see or you see it all the time. The misfire happens when you press the firing button at the exact moment the device heads into sleep mode, before or after it is fine, but pressing it at that exact moment will cause the device to only wake up and not fire. I think it was calculated at 13 seconds after the last button press ended. This is something intrinsic in how this board works, so even if updatable it wouldn't go away and it means if it's a deal breaker all devices have this issue.
 

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The misfiring isn't a defect like some electrical gremlin. Though it can be something you either don't ever see or you see it all the time. The misfire happens when you press the firing button at the exact moment the device heads into sleep mode, before or after it is fine, but pressing it at that exact moment will cause the device to only wake up and not fire. I think it was calculated at 13 seconds after the last button press ended. This is something intrinsic in how this board works, so even if updatable it wouldn't go away and it means if it's a deal breaker all devices have this issue.
The misfiring isn't a defect; it's a feature ;)

After 13 seconds of idleness the device does not enter into sleep mode, its display screen simply turns off. Pressing the fire button at this precise moment does not fire the device, does not "wake up" the device, and does not turn on the display screen. In other words, the button press was not registered. Henceforth, it was dubbed a misfire. Subsequent button press(es) will be registered and the mod will function as usual.

The display screen timeout value would not be hardwired into the board, it would be a value assigned in its software. If firmware upgrade was available it could have, at the very least, offered possibilities of changing this value to another number.

The cause for the device not registering the button press could either be due to the board itself or its software, or a combination of both. It would be a difficult task for the typical end user to solve. However, it would not be the most difficult task to solve at the manufactoring and design stage.

Whilst this particular issue could be classed as a con, it remains inferior to the device's other cons. Whilst the device does have its list of cons, it should not imply it does not have a list of pros.

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At 64 pages :shock:, I would have just asked too!

I liked the Sig 213 in power mode enough, I picked up the Fuchai 213 just to have one in a different color. I do very, very little TC and have a Lavabox DNA200 for when the urge arises, so I am fine just using the 213's in power mode. If you want to try TC, take some time and read through some of this thread or ask. I am sure those more knowledgeable will be happy to explain the adjustments and pitfalls. :D
Hi OlderNDirt

Despite all its faults, it still is a well built device which performs in power mode.

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The misfiring isn't a defect; it's a feature ;)

After 13 seconds of idleness the device does not enter into sleep mode, its display screen simply turns off. Pressing the fire button at this precise moment does not fire the device, does not "wake up" the device, and does not turn on the display screen. In other words, the button press was not registered. Henceforth, it was dubbed a misfire. Subsequent button press(es) will be registered and the mod will function as usual.

The display screen timeout value would not be hardwired into the board, it would be a value assigned in its software. If firmware upgrade was available it could have, at the very least, offered possibilities of changing this value to another number.

The cause for the device not registering the button press could either be due to the board itself or its software, or a combination of both. It would be a difficult task for the typical end user to solve. However, it would not be the most difficult task to solve at the manufactoring and design stage.

Whilst this particular issue could be classed as a con, it remains inferior to the device's other cons. Whilst the device does have its list of cons, it should not imply it does not have a list of pros.

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My point about updates is that more than likely it an I/O issue. The device can't be in middle of this process and wake up at the same time. That would be really difficult to impossible to iron out from a firmware aspect. But either way it's all hypothetical because these devices are never getting an update.
 

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My point about updates is that more than likely it an I/O issue. The device can't be in middle of this process and wake up at the same time. That would be really difficult to impossible to iron out from a firmware aspect. But either way it's all hypothetical because these devices are never getting an update.
You are right there, it is an I/O issue as the board is missing the required circuitry. And I suppose you may be right that ANY device can not be interrupted if it is in the state of following an important program, such as turning off its display screen. It, however, can be tweaked to minimise the amount of time required to perform this procedure, although in this regard it may not yield a better result as the device's board and software may already have been tweaked in the best way possible. A lot of these functions, if not all, rests on the speed and quality of the processor. Lastly, it is not all hypothetical as this is not the first piece of technology to be ever produced, and in my opinion this device's board does not implement brand new technology per se. And if we look at the Yihi and DNA devices we do not hear people complaining about this particular issue; however, their boards obviously utilise more expensive components. Yet we still do hear people complaining about other things and so even these devices have their own list of cons as well.

Anyway, we are nitpicking over things already said and done, i.e., beating a dead horse. I'd rather enjoy the device for its merits, and not for its faults. I just chimed in because I thought your previous post was incorrect in some aspects; yes I am not ashamed to be a ..... now and then. By happy. Vape on.
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I have the segelei it lasted all of 28 day's first death throe was one of the voltage readouts was showing 4.65 volts at full charge the other battery side was showing a normal 4.18 at full charge. The temp control didn't work right. The voltage would climb every time I would charge the batteries. It finally topped out at 5.13 then it showed battery imbalance for about five presses of the fire button. When it it finally gave up the ghost it it would have nothing but x's across the screen when you hit the fire button.
Before you ask it wasn't the batteries they are fine (lg he 2 all I use) I contacted segelei they are going to honor the 90 day warranty which truly amazes me. This was the fuchai 213 not the first 213.
As far as I'm concerned they we're both junk. IMHO the last good segelei was the 150 Watt every thing since has been crap..... Your mileage may vary....
 

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I have the segelei it lasted all of 28 day's first death throe was one of the voltage readouts was showing 4.65 volts at full charge the other battery side was showing a normal 4.18 at full charge. The temp control didn't work right. The voltage would climb every time I would charge the batteries. It finally topped out at 5.13 then it showed battery imbalance for about five presses of the fire button. When it it finally gave up the ghost it it would have nothing but x's across the screen when you hit the fire button.
Before you ask it wasn't the batteries they are fine (lg he 2 all I use) I contacted segelei they are going to honor the 90 day warranty which truly amazes me. This was the fuchai 213 not the first 213.
As far as I'm concerned they we're both junk. IMHO the last good segelei was the 150 Watt every thing since has been crap..... Your mileage may vary....
Thanks for sharing, and I'm sorry to hear your experience. I hope the replacement will fair better.

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