Vaping now banned in national parks.

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Love the statement by Ken Mabery, director of the Colorado National Monument:

“Park Rangers take an education stance, and when foreign visitors have issues with our policies, we explain that these things [smoking or vaping] are not appropriate in America.”
 

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It is about freedom my freedom to vape and "your" freedom to not have to inhale it if you don't want to. yeah I know car exhaust is worse but you can't run your car in the national park restaurant either.

Balancing "your" freedoms with mine is not always a fair or balanced arrangement.
 

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It is about freedom my freedom to vape and "your" freedom to not have to inhale it if you don't want to. yeah I know car exhaust is worse but you can't run your car in the national park restaurant either.

Balancing "your" freedoms with mine is not always a fair or balanced arrangement.
This has nothing to do with restaurants.

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National Park Service adds vaping to smoking ban areas - WREX.com – Rockford’s News Leader

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The National Park Service banned vaping in certain areas of their parks. Vaping will not be allowed where smoking is already prohibited.

Smoking is banned in certain areas of national parks, such as indoor parks, inside park vehicles and within all park concession facilities.

Park Service employees were alerted to the new policy on vaping in a memo, which cites disputed findings about E-cigarettes emitting formaldehyde and a toxic chemical found in antifreeze.



alarmism on either side helps no one.
 
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"your" freedom to not have to inhale it if you don't want to.

That's not a "freedom". Go elsewhere. If a Nazi is spouting propaganda on the Half Dome, and you don't like it, go elsewhere. But he has the right to speak. Now if something actually harms you rather than just upsets your sensibilities - that's another matter.
 

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It is my freedom to go where I want within reason not to be run out of somewhere so I do not have to inhale your vapors.
I vape but I follow the same rules as those for smoking. Aside from in my own vehicle or home. I did not smoke in my own home but I vape there now.
Raise your blood pressure if you want but the best we vapers can hope for is to just being restricted to the same locations for vaping as are smokers.

And as to harm we do not yet know how harmful vaping can be. It appears to be far less harmful than smoking but I do not think it is totally risk free.

Vaping cannot be healthier for ya than not vaping. Not considering harm reduction in converting to vaping from smoking in that statement.
 
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Park Service employees were alerted to the new policy on vaping in a memo, which cites disputed findings about E-cigarettes emitting formaldehyde and a toxic chemical found in antifreeze.



alarmism on either side helps no one.

It's interesting (or ironic) you were able to put those two sentences in the same post.

My earlier point stands. More harmful items in exhaled breath than in exhaled vapor, so I would take it as a very good sign that if no parks person is wearing a mouth filter then surely they don't have a (serious) issue with vaping, regardless of the location.
 

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It's interesting (or ironic) you were able to put those two sentences in the same post.

My earlier point stands. More harmful items in exhaled breath than in exhaled vapor, so I would take it as a very good sign that if no parks person is wearing a mouth filter then surely they don't have a (serious) issue with vaping, regardless of the location.
Nice selective editing.
I stand on my statements. So we just stand.

Do not forget that I am a Vaper. And do love to vape the diketone ridden flavorings. And did not give up smoking for reasons of health but to save money and found vaping far more enjoyable and plan to vape till I die.
I just tend to be realistic vs idealistic.
 
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It is my freedom to go where I want within treason not to be run out of somewhere so I do not have to inhale your vapors.

Within treason?

And as to harm we do not yet know how harmful vaping can be. It appears to be far less harmful than smoking but I do not think it is totally risk free.

We know that second hand vapor is less harmful than normal exhaled breath, which is not totally risk free. How do we know this? By this study.
 
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