100% VG juice and your experience with it. Please share

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    With me it was mid hundreds. Enough to ruin a diet
    Egads dude!!

    Even *IF* you were vaping like dopers smoke pot (IE: take a hit and hold it in until your gasping for air and the 'hit' is almost all absorbed by your body)...

    @ ~100 cal per 30ml your talking ~150ml A DAY (or more!) to hit 'mid 100's'...

    Then again, it is rather debatable exactly how much the average nicotine vapor's vape is actually absorbed into their body.

    (the clouds/weather patterns in enclosed indoor spaces with just ONE person vaping nicotine is any indication of how much DOES NOT get absorbed and exhaled)

    Ether that is A BUTLOAD of Nicotine OR your merely recreational vaping.

    Ether A up the nicotine content (so you need less vape) OR B if your vaping just for fun - just STOP!!

    Breathing ANYTHING other than plain clean air is not as healthy as plain old air and is hazardous to your health.

    I *may* go though 30ml A WEEK. I smoked for +40yrs so vaping is NRT for me.
     

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    Egads dude!!

    Even *IF* you were vaping like dopers smoke pot (IE: take a hit and hold it in until your gasping for air and the 'hit' is almost all absorbed by your body)...

    @ ~100 cal per 30ml your talking ~150ml A DAY (or more!) to hit 'mid 100's'...

    Then again, it is rather debatable exactly how much the average nicotine vapor's vape is actually absorbed into their body.

    (the clouds/weather patterns in enclosed indoor spaces with just ONE person vaping nicotine is any indication of how much DOES NOT get absorbed and exhaled)

    Ether that is A BUTLOAD of Nicotine OR your merely recreational vaping.

    Ether A up the nicotine content (so you need less vape) OR B if your vaping just for fun - just STOP!!

    Breathing ANYTHING other than plain clean air is not as healthy as plain old air and is hazardous to your health.

    I *may* go though 30ml A WEEK. I smoked for +40yrs so vaping is NRT for me.
    That’s not how math or nic addiction works I think. Mostly because for a nic addict it’s dependent on how much nic not how much juice.

    To quote: “So if one was to Vape about 8ml's of 100% VG e-Liquid a day, and they received All of the Calories from the VG e-Liquid (which the Don't), then they would receive a about 43 additional Calories to their Normal Diet.”

    So for mild weight gain I would have to vape at least 60mls, which is about what I go through in a day (I don’t quite chain, but it’s not far off. It would be really expensive if I didn’t DIY)

    30 mls a week is really low to my experience. At 5%, which is the disposable standard, that’s 0.214 mls of nic a day. My memory s theres about a ml of nic in a cigarette, or was it a pack? I forget. That’s not a pack a day that’s a bit more than a pack a week. When I was smoking I was a 3 pack a day smoker. Your 30ml a week Seems low. Unless, of course you are also DIYing and doing much stronger juice. Then it works. I used to mix 30 ml bottles of 8 and would frequently empty them in less than a day. 20 not so much.

    The thing is the standard strengths available in B&M stores today are 3% and 6%

    So while it can be done in theory, in practice it can’t unless you DIY.
     
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    To quote: “So if one was to Vape about 8ml's of 100% VG e-Liquid a day, and they received All of the Calories from the VG e-Liquid (which the Don't), then they would receive a about 43 additional Calories to their Normal Diet.”

    ...

    That quote sounds Vaguely Familiar.

    LOL
     
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    That quote sounds Vaguely Familiar.

    LOL
    And there you go... this is how 'misinformation' spreads. :)

    If we were to take Googles word for it, 30ml of %100 VG contains ~132 calories so 8ml might have ~34 calories. No?

    (for reference I have Protein Bars that have 180-220 calories per bar)

    Then comes the possible (or PROBABLE) absorption rate. While 'GoogleAI' offers up a '>=%80' for vaped VG, clearly one would have to 'vape' like a 'pot smoker' to get that high of an absorption rate as MOST folks that vape nicotine laced juice EXHALE >%50 of the aerosols.

    My personal IWAG/EWAG is that absorption is <%25. So to ingest a mere 132 calories from vaping one might need to vape (30ml X4) 120ml (or MUCH more)
    a day.

    Frankly, I'd suggest/recommend nicotine lozenges, gum or patches over subjecting your lungs to that much foreign aerosols on a daily basis.

    My EWAG/IWAG is someone using THAT much juice per day must be using one of those "Cloud Chaser" setups (large mass/multicoil/high power) where it ought to be fairly obvious that the majority of the vapor (and juice) ends up OUTSIDE of the person pressing the fire button. :)

    BTW: I was a 2PAD smoker for ~40yrs. I mix my vape @ ~7mg & ~18mg. The 30ml a week is the 7mg unflavored mix. :) The 18mg 30ml (also unflavored) bottle lasts MONTHS.
    Rigs are generally single plain round wire coils fired with 15-30W @ ~380F.
     
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    And there you go... this is how 'misinformation' spreads. :)

    If we were to take Googles word for it, 30ml of %100 VG contains ~132 calories so 8ml might have ~34 calories. No?

    ...

    When it came to DIY, I've always referenced that 1ml of VG weighs 1.27 grams. So 30ml of VG => 38.1 Grams

    Google AI seems to want to tell people that 1 Gram of VG has 4 ~ 4.3 Calories. And that seems reasonable. So I'll going with the Upper 99 Percental and use 4.25 Calories / Gram.

    So 38.1 grams of VG (30ml) has approximately 162 Calories. Then, ITIT, 8ml (8 * 1.27 * 4.25) has approximately 43 Calories.

    That's were I got My Numbers from in the first couple of Posts in this Thread. And to go Full Circle, that is what Bomb quoted that I LOL'ed to.
     

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    When it came to DIY, I've always referenced that 1ml of VG weighs 1.27 grams. So 30ml of VG => 38.1 Grams

    Google AI seems to want to tell people that 1 Gram of VG has 4 ~ 4.3 Calories. And that seems reasonable. So I'll going with the Upper 99 Percental and use 4.25 Calories / Gram.

    So 38.1 grams of VG (30ml) has approximately 162 Calories. Then, ITIT, 8ml (8 * 1.27 * 4.25) has approximately 43 Calories.

    That's were I got My Numbers from in the first couple of Posts in this Thread. And to go Full Circle, that is what Bomb quoted that I LOL'ed to.

    BTW - I could have used 1 gram of VG having 4.1339 Calories. It would have be Very Close to the Median AI given values. And it would have made the Answer come out to "42".

    But bending the Algebraic Wrench to make a answer come out to be exactly 42 seems like counterkarma.
     

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    When it came to DIY, I've always referenced that 1ml of VG weighs 1.27 grams. So 30ml of VG => 38.1 Grams

    Google AI seems to want to tell people that 1 Gram of VG has 4 ~ 4.3 Calories. And that seems reasonable. So I'll going with the Upper 99 Percental and use 4.25 Calories / Gram.

    So 38.1 grams of VG (30ml) has approximately 162 Calories. Then, ITIT, 8ml (8 * 1.27 * 4.25) has approximately 43 Calories.

    That's were I got My Numbers from in the first couple of Posts in this Thread. And to go Full Circle, that is what Bomb quoted that I LOL'ed to.
    Sure, sound reasonable (I was going by volume, not weight) however is IMHO besides the point.

    THAT being that unless ones exhales are entirely invisible they are exhaling juice and therefore:

    "XXml" of juice poured into ones vaporizer

    Does NOT equal

    "XXml" of juice absorbed by ones body. No?

    Which means that while XXml of juice MAY HAVE "yy calories", running XXml through ones vaporizer does not mean "yy calories" is absorbed by the body. No?

    Unless of course the persons vaping style is like that of a pot smoker where each inhale is HELD until there is no visible vapor when they exhale. :)
     
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    Sure, sound reasonable (I was going by volume, not weight) however is IMHO besides the point.

    THAT being that unless ones exhales are entirely invisible they are exhaling juice and therefore:

    "XXml" of juice poured into ones vaporizer

    Does NOT equal
    "XXml" of juice absorbed by ones body. No?

    Which means that while XXml of juice MAY HAVE "yy calories", running XXml through ones vaporizer does not mean "yy calories" is absorbed by the body. No?

    Unless of course the persons vaping style is like that of a pot smoker where each inhale is HELD until there is no visible vapor when they exhale. :)

    Maybe I misunderstand what you meant by "this is how 'misinformation' spreads" ?

    Weight and Volume are Interchangeable those involved agree what a given Volume Weighs. ie: 1 Milliliter of VG = 1.27 Grams

    The Long and the Short of it is this really Doesn't Matter if some conversion comes up with and answer of 43. Or 34. Or 41.783952. These values of Ingested Calories are kind picking the Fly Snit out of the Pepper.

    And have about 14% Less than Zilch bearing on Weight Gain when compared to a Normal Diet and any amount of Physical Motion in a given day.

    I'm sure if one looked hard enough they could find on the Internet where some Undergraduate calculated that you Burn 43 (or More!) Calories just be lifting your Arm the amount of times it takes to Vape 8ml of 100% VG e-Liquid.

    LOL
     
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    Maybe I misunderstand what you meant by "this is how 'misinformation' spreads" ?

    Weight and Volume are Interchangeable those involved agree what a given Volume Weighs. ie: 1 Milliliter of VG = 1.27 Grams

    The Long and the Short of it is this really Doesn't Matter if some conversion comes up with and answer of 43. Or 34. Or 41.783952. These values of Ingested Calories are kind picking the Fly Snit out of the Pepper.

    And have about 14% Less than Zilch bearing on Weight Gain when compared to a Normal Diet and any amount of Physical Motion in a given day.

    I'm sure if one looked hard enough they could find on the Internet where some Undergraduate calculated that you Burn 43 (or More!) Calories just be lifting your Arm the amount of times it takes to Vape 8ml of 100% VG e-Liquid.

    LOL
    Exactly!!!

    No matter how much (or not!) the OP/User vapes a day and what EXACTLY they are vaping matters "diddly squat" to ones "diet" or weight gain/loss.

    The idea/concept of migrating AWAY from VG in their vaping juice because any real or imagined "calories" is comical at best. :)

    (however someone will undoubtedly misquote this thread as evidence supporting the silly theory!)

    LOL!!
     

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    The Long and the Short of it is this really Doesn't Matter if some conversion comes up with and answer of 43. Or 34. Or 41.783952.

    <<< cough-cough, ahem >>> The correct answer is 42. :greengrin:

    But yes, in truth...... "Doesn't Matter"

    I'm sure if one looked hard enough they could find on the Internet where some Undergraduate calculated that you Burn 43 (or More!) Calories just be lifting your Arm the amount of times it takes to Vape 8ml of 100% VG e-Liquid.

    Pretty sure that's in a Peer-reviewed Research Paper published by an undergrad who is enrolled in the Exercise and Movement Science program at the University of Vermont.

    Just did a quick search at UV and one paper caught my eye. "Calories Burned for a Single Arm Lift". I didn't have a login for UV, so, I dunno the answer, but it is 42 pages in length. The author goes by the name Deep Thought. Strange name!


    I didn't look any further.



    but............

    A person burns between 300 to 700 calories for a full nights sleep.

    On average a person burns about 55 calories per hour from breathing. (truly beats the alternative!)

    Meditating for 30 minutes burns 135 calories.



    ooooh, what's this.........

    A person weighing 70kg engaging in a moderate intensity arm workout for 45 minutes would burn approximately 157.5 calories.

    "A moderate intensity arm workout for 45 minutes" - I bet that's the equivalent of a super stressed out person, wired on caffeine, and rapid-fire chain vaping, flailing both arms, with one mod in each hand for 45 minutes.



    Research conducted by Vanderbilt University Medical Center revealed that laughing for ten to 15 minutes burns between 10 and 40 calories. Laughing intensely for an hour can burn as many calories as lifting weight for 30 minutes, those same scientists have found.

    LOL, the authors actually received grants and funding for that research (Energy expenditure for genuine laughter).

    Money well spent!!! :lol:



    The act of eating burns calories. (now I'm hungry, LOL)

    52.5 calories are burned by a person sitting at a computer for 30 minutes. Which happens to be the exact same amount burned for a person just sitting for 30 minutes.

    Better off sitting then, because, a person standing for 30 minutes only burns 43 calories.



    Pretty sure, on the low intensity scale, fidgeting rules!!! Fidgeting can burn between 300 to 800 calories per day.

    I would add that number to the person just sitting at a computer for 30 minutes.

    And because just sitting at a computer, on the ECF, and fidgeting will make a person thirsty, best add the calories from the next one.



    According to this study, Water-induced thermogenesis reconsidered, drinking eight pints of ice water a day will cause your body to expend almost 125 calories of metabolic heat to warm that water to body temperature (by the way, that's a full gallon of water!).

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    Feeling better already!!!



    Thinking for 30 minutes burns approximately 42 calories.


    Yeah, I don't know, I'm still going with......

    42

    The rest of you folks in this thread can sort out the minor details, I'm 100% certain of that.

    Meanwhile, I will be chain vaping, drinking water, while just sitting at my computer (on the ECF, watching this thread) and thinking for the next 30 minutes. And yes, I most certainly will be in Deep Thought.
     

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