14500 Mod Questions

[AttyPops]

BTW, for the record, I didn't want to come off as particularly negative on that mod...My intent was making sure we all understood it.

I have lots of 14500 batteries, so that mod is appealing to me. And the fact that it's regulated is appealing too, particularly if you get the proper coils for the lower voltage and use it all day.

I'm not a fan of how they advertise/explain the voltage thing on those type of mods though.

And since I mod stuff, if I didn't like the vent holes, I'd drill more. So I'd consider getting one.

Maybe we need a new term (oh gasp/groan! Not another term!). VDR - Variable Down Regulation

 

[DancingHeretik]

Maybe we need a new term (oh gasp/groan! Not another term!). VDR - Variable Down Regulation

I always call those Selectable Voltage rather than Variable Voltage. At least, in my own head that's what I call them.

 

[AttyPops]

I like "Selectable voltage" better.

The thing about these types is that they don't BOOST it though. Hard to describe to newbies. It's...at most X volts, but often less (particularly for the "4.2" setting which mostly just follows battery voltage).

 

[SupplyDaddy]

When I talk about mine, and the X6 I have, I use the term "Selectable Voltage" also. Hard to be variable if you have only 3 choices.

 

[DancingHeretik]

So, is this mod not even Selectable Voltage? Is the change in color only an indicator of voltage remaining?

In that case, it's not VV or SV, but just unregulated with a voltage indicator.

 

[AttyPops]

It selects the voltage regulation level. However, I think..., if the battery voltage is below what you select, it doesn't get boosted so you end up with current-voltage.

Not bad if you select the 3.3 or whatever it is low side regulated voltage....that's well below the usable range. But if you select "4.2" you're really just following battery voltage since 4.2 volts is the "top off max charge" of a Li-Ion battery. A battery's "normal" working range is mostly 3.7/3.6 volts.

So in other words, it won't boost the voltage above current battery voltage. As I understand it.

 

[Orb Skewer]

Kamry eCab V2
$12.15 Kamry eCab V2 E-Cigarette Mod / Battery Compartment at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Not a 14500-but not much bigger (16340) VV and VW
$27.42 V9 Variable Voltage 1500mAh E-Cigarette Mod / Battery Compartment with 0.75" LCD Screen - 2*16340 / silver at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

 

[tj99959]

Costs about 5 bucks to make a 14500 (2xAA box) box mod.

 

[AttyPops]

Well, yeah, if you're going that route:

MadVapes sells an $18.00 solder-it-yourself kit for a VV box mod too (2x 14500 batteries in a 3xAA box). You have to solder and epoxy it yourself though. They sell em pre-built but that gets more expensive for what you get.

(It's what I've been using for the last year)

 

[bo jonson]

...Then I saw: SVC "Squall"- 14500 Battery APV....
Problem is the battery. The AW IMR is only 600 MaH, I really don't want to carry around tons of batteries at work....Is there a better "safe" 14500 battery to use?

The 'Squall' from SVC which you mentioned looks & specs identical to the

Kamry eCab V2 Electronic Regulated MOD I just got from FastTech. The SVC instructions on your link were pidgeon.

The mAh rating of batteries is relative; bigger is not aways better! You need to educate yourself here. Generally, regulated 'devices' can use unprotected High Drain IMR batts. 'Protected' batteries may have higher mAh ratings, but are best used in mechanical mods lacking regulation. Often the diameter of protected batts is slightly bigger than IMR batts. CBP batts won't fit in the Squall or the Kamry eCab.​

 

[Racehorse]

here's the one I have from madvapes

To be honest, I LOVED the Robust, which pbussardo hated.

REO mini is fabulous!

 

[thorn]

That's large for a 14500 compared to the one I made from a chapstick case, yes, single voltage. But I guess the production options are somewhat more limited. Carldamnit, please keep us updated on your venture! Because for every person that posts, there are hundreds or thousands reading this that don't.

edit: oops, the chapstick mod used a 10440.

 

[flowerpots]

I have 14500 battery life info (I use the Robust). I've had my mod about 2.5 months and I got it used off a classified ad in another forum and it came with 2 AW IMR 600 mAh batteries. These 2 batteries are just now dying with daily, though not constant, use. I also purchased 2 Ultra Fire brand batteries stated at 900 mAh from Fasttech and those won't hold a charge now after 1.5 months of daily use. I ordered another AW IMR 600 mAh for back-up and the vendor sent a 750 mAh IMR IC (black with red writing) protected battery instead, which has lasted all of 2 weeks. I have just ordered an Efest 700 mAh IMR and will give battery life on that when I know it. Even though the red AW IMR batteries are only 600 mAh, the battery life is a lot longer than with the other batteries. So, the idea that shopping for higher mAh for longer life has not proven successful for me. The bottom line is the AW IMR batts last the longest so far.

Anyone else have different experiences?

 

[carldamnit]

That type of "VV" mod bugs me a bit.

Now the rest of this is mostly guesswork since I don't have one. Someone that does please correct me if I err:

The voltage is not boosted...it's regulated. Thus, the voltage amount given is the MAX voltage it will put out until the battery voltage starts dropping below that #. Then, it will let it drop until some cut-off is reached or maybe just cut out immediately (don't think it does cut off immediately or the 4.2 volt would die after a few puffs).

Also, you need to check the vent holes. Particularly if you choose to use a protected Li-Ion battery (the 900 mAh ones). Although they are protected, if the protection circuit ever fails and it shorts/vents/fails...it could be bad.

I use 900 mAh protected Li-Ion all the time....stacked in fact. But that's in a box mod that cannot possibly build up pressure. Sure, there's danger of flame and such, but it won't go "boom". Anyway, be careful with metal tube mods and batteries. If the batteries are that tight in there to begin with (and protected batts are a couple mm longer too) the swelling battery that's venting could block the vents. Not sure because I haven't seen one of these... this is all theoretical only. Check into it or use IMR.

I was really not so interested in a "VV" mod, mostly a small durable one with built in battery protection.

After lots of arguing with myself over all of this stuff (hey did you see the new INNOKIN VTR?), and fretting about the money.

I just bought a Reo/Reomizer.
Done and done.
Not only have I found something durable to replace my work setup, I haven't touched my other PVs.

Thanks for all the help everyone.

 

[Inannalu]

I am seemingly quite late getting here, but here is what I can tell you, as an owner of the 14500 Squall:

The Ultrafire 900mAh protected 14500 battery and the Nitecore 750mAh protected 14500 battery will NOT fit in the Squall.

The AW 600mAh IMR 14500 battery WILL fit, and is a good choice for use, as the mod has low voltage cut-off anyway, and will not put your batteries to sleep, should you vape too long on one.

I SUSPECT that the Efest IMR 14500 battery will fit, but am not sure.

If you use a tank with a 1.8 ohm rating, you are going to get adequate vapor out of the Squall, irrespective of which voltage setting you choose.

The mod looks EXCELLENT with a Protank Mini II on it. I use mine with a stainless steel drip tip, a thread skirt from a full sized Protank, and a 510 to eGo adapter (I added the thread skirt and adapter so that I would avoid covering any of the Protank Mini's air vents when I press the firing button).

 

[WidowsSon]

OK, I get where you're coming from, mobile at work..... I've got a mod setup for every occasion.

Best mobile/small setup I've got is this:

14500/pen style:

Super T Manufacturing Precise simplicity 14500 (for classy occasions)

Ultra Portable:

Microstick (protects your atty and is super small (16mm atty's or smaller))
NOTE: GP Spheroid fits in this mod awesome.