18650 Batteries

[bilbobaggins30]

So... My 2 18650 batteries are lasting me no longer than 2 days, in my provari. I want to order some more in, but I need some advice on what is good and safe, and what to stay away from. I have been looking at some Panasonic IMR Li-on batteries, but I am not sure if they are safe. Any help is much appreciated.

 

[Racehorse]

So you are getting a full day out of each 18650 battery?

Not sure that is a problem, depending on what delivery system you are using at what voltage. Keeping your vape at a certain place if you are putting demands on your battery wiill drain it faster.

 

[Zedd]

If you are getting 2 days off one battery you are a better man than I. I guess it all depends on how much you vape but I getlike 6 hours out of my ultrafire 1200mah 18650's. Friday I had to get a new charger and went to fry's and they had a charger + two batteries that are Tenergy 1650mah batteries that I'm almost getting a full day out of so far which in my mind is AWESOME.

Given my vamo barely ever leaves my hand I would say you probably won't do a lot better than two days... if there is some special super battery out there I'd love to know.

I should mention I vape at 4.8-5.0v always.

 

[bilbobaggins30]

Mine are just simple AW IMR 1600 mAh batteries that came with my Lavatube v2.

 

[Thrasher]

your getting a full day from a 1600? be happy, i use 2000 and get about 15 hours
but i went to these and assuming your vape style you might get 4 days lol

NCR18650PD High Drain Panasonic 18650 2900 mAh Li-ion Battery free shipping from Florida

 

[SissySpike]

Panys will work fine in your Provari CGR18650CH are the ones you want I get a little better life from them over the AW 18650 2000Mah and they are a little cheaper.
But they are a little fatter and longer than the AW so they will not work in all mods but they fit the Provari just fine

 

[Baditude]

I use the red AW 18650 2000mAh batteries in my Provari. Typically get a day out of each one, which I feel is about right. I get less than a full day if home on the weekend and using my AGA-T RBA's, they seem to drain faster because of the longer draws I use with them.

At some point I may end up getting some of those hybrid IMR Panasonics with the long mAh time.

 

[Thrasher]

better snatch up the cgr's now while they are cheap and in stock as when they are gone thats it. It is being stated the 2900 is the SKU replacement for the 2250 hybrids.

i have 4 of then and will be sad to see them go, they are a powerful battery.

 

[Thrasher]

better snatch up the cgr's now while they are cheap and in stock as when they are gone thats it. It is being stated the 2900 is the SKU replacement for the 2250 hybrids.

i have 4 of then and will be sad to see them go, they are a powerful battery.

but the 10A 2900 (with a 18A spike capacity) is nothing to sneeze at either

 

[SissySpike]

better snatch up the cgr's now while they are cheap and in stock as when they are gone thats it. It is being stated the 2900 is the SKU replacement for the 2250 hybrids.

i have 4 of then and will be sad to see them go, they are a powerful battery.

but the 10A 2900 (with a 18A spike capacity) is nothing to sneeze at either

Batteries : Panasonic Hybrid/ IMR CGR18650CH Button Top has them also

 

[bilbobaggins30]

What about these batteries?

http://www.orbtronic.com/protected-...onic-ncr18650B-orbtronic#product-page-reviews

 

[echofinder]

What about these batteries?

3400mAh Protected Panasonic 18650 battery cell by Orbtronic

A 3400mAh 18650!? Will have to look into this.

I love the trustfire 3000mAh's. I can stretch one through 3 days if need be; they will last me 2 days easy, with the voltage starting to taper noticeably about halfway through day 2.

To OP: how are you running your Provari? There will be a noticeable difference in battery longevity between a 3.7v @ 1.7ohm setup vs a 6v with high-ohm dual coil setup.

 

[Baditude]

What about these batteries?

3400mAh Protected Panasonic 18650 battery cell by Orbtronic

No, that is a protected battery. The Provari requires IMR high drain button top batteries to function.

"Batteries - We only recommend using approved 18490 and 18650 batteries in the ProVari. All of the batteries that we sell on our website have been tested to work with the ProVari and these are the only cells you should use. There is a big difference between all the different batteries on the market and a lot of testing has been done on these various batteries.

The reason we recommend using high drain cells is because these cells can output more current providing the ProVari with the power it needs to operate properly. There are a number of batteries that will cause issues including the Trustfire, Ultrafire and other brands. These batteries cannot handle higher current output and the battery will turn off while in use or cause a low battery alert much sooner than it should because the batteries have a high internal resistance. Please make sure you get the proper batteries to use in the ProVari to avoid problems." - ProVari Variable Voltage Ecig: Best Variable Voltage E Cig Available!

 

[SissySpike]

A 3400mAh 18650!? Will have to look into this.

I love the trustfire 3000mAh's. I can stretch one through 3 days if need be; they will last me 2 days easy, with the voltage starting to taper noticeably about halfway through day 2.

To OP: how are you running your Provari? There will be a noticeable difference in battery longevity between a 3.7v @ 1.7ohm setup vs a 6v with high-ohm dual coil setup.

those are not IMR high drain batteries most VV/VW mods are designed to be used with IMRs. They have more power readily available over protected batteries. You have to take the AMP load of the battery in to consideration also. Just because a battery has a higher MAH rating dose not mean its ok to use in your mod.

 

[SissySpike]

No, that is a protected battery. The Provari requires IMR high drain button top batteries to function.

"Batteries - We only recommend using approved 18490 and 18650 batteries in the ProVari. All of the batteries that we sell on our website have been tested to work with the ProVari and these are the only cells you should use. There is a big difference between all the different batteries on the market and a lot of testing has been done on these various batteries. The reason we recommend using high drain cells is because these cells can output more current providing the ProVari with the power it needs to operate properly. There are a number of batteries that will cause issues including the Trustfire, Ultrafire and other brands. These batteries cannot handle higher current output and the battery will turn off while in use or cause a low battery alert much sooner than it should because the batteries have a high internal resistance. Please make sure you get the proper batteries to use in the ProVari to avoid problems." - ProVari Variable Voltage Ecig: Best Variable Voltage E Cig Available!

Great Minds think alike or simple minds seldom differ;-)

 

[Thrasher]

they do make that 3400 in a non protected mode. but these is something else to consider with the higher Mah batteries. even though they are classes as 18650 batteries they start to get longer as the Mah's go up and may not fit in all mods.

 

[SissySpike]

I tend to forget the newer Vapors did not go threw the battery thing like I did when IMR batteries started hitting the vaping world lots of people were apprehensive to use them.
IMR Batteries have a higher amp load and do not heat up when massive amounts of juice is being drawn threw them like we do when we use them. They have a safer chemistry that dose not tend to go thermal like protected ICR batteries. You can use IMR batteries in a mod designed for Protected but its not a good Idea to use protected where IMRs are suggested.

 

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[bilbobaggins30]

Good to know actually. I did not realize there was a difference between Protected and IMR. Wow... I figured these would work, since they have a 10A limit, and the provari has an internal amp limit on it... I will just stick with the two faithful batteries I have, and appreciate that they do last longer than a 18350...

 

[wingman399]

I got these from orbtronic. NCR18650PD High Drain Panasonic 18650 2900 mAh Li-ion Battery free shipping from Florida
I love these batteries and I hit it hard and I still get a day and a half at least out of it. I love these things.