2010 GGTS reviews

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imeothanasis

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http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...views/109589-ggts-review-july-2010-model.html

read it first and we talk again because I think that this guy wants to do a damage in purpose or he is just ignorant


check these phrases:


the device rattles without batteries

button felt out

the atomizer would not turn off and it blew

the switch on the 2010 GGTS, is unserviceable

2010 GGTS owners to invest in a roll or two of sellotape because in the weeks or months to come, they will need it to keep the thing together

the reign of the GGTS is over
 
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I'm going to be honest. I like the 2009 version alot more than the new one. The 2010 version just feels cheaper. I know it wasn't mass produced but it feels that way. I find it does rattle more with and without batteries installed. My switch doesn't fire every time and it does get loose from time to time. I like the previous switch much better. The rounded button makes it hard to tighten the button on the switch.

I do however like the new cap with adjustable draw and how you integrated the AVS.

I didn't like the fact I had to spend an additional $36 for the silver telescopic tube. We should have had the option brass or silver.
 

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He's basically saying that he thinks it doesn't compare to his 2009 model, after playing with a friends version 2 for a short amount of time.

You can't please everyone. I've heard others say that they like the '10 because it's lighter than the older model. Every design feature will always have pluses and trade offs.

Saying 'the reign of the ggts is over' after such a brief examination of one mod is a bit presumptive and uncalled for.

I also can't help but notice the second entry in this thread. Ouch.
 
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ok Harpo my friend, lets start.

"The device rattles without batteries"
Of course it rattles because of the telescoping system. It rattles exactly as the previous GGTS. Not less, not more. The reason is very simple. The dimentions of tubes are exactly the same so all updates can fit.
If I unscrew a little the parts of another device and I move it up and down it will not rattle? GG without batteries has the telescope unscrewed all the time so of course it rattles. I didnt knew that this was an issue :lol:

"button felt out"
Button felt out because of again a simple reason. I dont screw it tight because customers were complaining that they cant unscrew it to clean it. So I screw it normal and all people can screw it as tight as they want. My mistake is only that I didnt say this to all people. Ok, I will and I am sorry for this, I missed it. But button is exactly the same as the previous one. No changes at all to it.

"the atomizer would not turn off and it blew"
atomizer will get burned if button get unscrewed of course. I tried to not screw it tight but I have to do it next time as I see it. I just tried to satisfy both ways the customers. Not too tight, not too flabby.

"the switch on the 2010 GGTS, is unserviceable". I didnt saw an explanation of this. It was a word just to make impressions or I miss something? Button is as serviceable was to the previous models.

"2010 GGTS owners to invest in a roll or two of sellotape because in the weeks or months to come, they will need it to keep the thing together"
How does this conclution came? Maybe just because GG is light? It was one of my concerns to make it light but this is a disadvantage now? I didnt knew that. Ok, next time I will make one by rock to be very heavy just for impressions. "The heavier the better" :lol:

I also notice that the man who made this review was a very sophisticated man because he immediately understood that the new aluminium alloy was lighter. The exact words were:

"To begin with the new model seems to be made of lighter, more flimsy aluminium, each part weighing less than it’s predecessor"

Guys, there is no lighter aluminium alloy and I never said anything like that never! Maybe some aluminiums have different metals inside but the weight is almost the same with an unoticeable diference. But even if there was a lighter alloy, that means it is worse? Some people here have a deep knowledge on metals!!


Harpo, about what you said buddy:

Please tell me the reasons that it feels cheaper and I will explain you everything you want.:)

So now you know already why button gets lose and you already know the way to fix the firing issue. Just clean it as you know. I touch button with my hands to screw it and my hands leave a film on the axis that button touch. Sand it as always and you will see.

Previous switch was the same as now on the last models buddy and most people liked it. If you dont like it its ok of course:)

As for the fact that you had to spend 36 more dollars for aluminium one we can say more later but its not an GG issue.

I hope that I covered any angle here. I am waiting for questions of course about anything. I know what I made. And its not made as the man that made the review says. I gave more attention this time because I wanted to make it even better. Of course its not just better as you see with all its functions.

ps........ The man with the review didnt said anyting about the new options and he didnt find anything good on the new GGTS. He said as a last comment:

"the reign of the GGTS is over"

But the reign of the 2010 GGTS just started buddy:thumbs::thumbs:.
 
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Hi Imeo,

First off, let me tell you that I love the GGTS/AVS I just received. Also that I've never owned or even seen first hand the 2009 model.
In my opinion, any non performance / sturdiness diminishing weight or size reduction of an item designed to be used and transported manually is always an improvement.
The overall quality and attention to detail of my GGTS is obvious and I both use and display it with great pride.
However, I can also confirm the "rattling" stated in the above review. It originates from both ends of the telescopic tube. My "rattle" disappears when I substantially tighten the GGTS at each end of the Telescopic Tube.
Though I'm by no means an engineer or machinest, I'm willing to bet a tray of Baklava that the GGTS "rattle" is caused by the Outside Diameter of the Telescopic Tube being just a little too small (probably only off by a few thousands of an inch)...
The reason I believe that is because not only is the play side to side, but also up and down when threaded.
 
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However, I can also confirm the "rattling" stated in the above review. It originates from both ends of the telescopic tube. My "rattle" disappears when I substantially tighten the GGTS at each end of the Telescopic Tube.

Yes my friend Mau, exactly the same happens to previous model. No change at all!
We dont care of course what is happening when GG is without batteries but only when it is in use. We also dont care what is happening to an disassembled device. As we dont care what is happening to a car that is parked. We need to see it in a race. Then we will say if its good or not.

Its a shame to try to find redicolous disadvantages to GG. If there is a real issue like the old Grant (I made a recall of them) then yes we can talk! I always admit my mistakes and I never deny anything to anyone that says something serious.:)

I will tell you a story because you are new here. Someone made a direct copy of the Grant 8-10 months ago if I remember well. He sold it with the same problem that Grant had. He didnt knew what he was doing, he was just coping. When he realised that he never made a recall. He also told to people that "his" device was doing 5 volt!!. But he is not out of business. He still sells e-cigs. As you see the trouble is always with GG. You see what is going on? Many people try to find a weakness on GG. But the only they discover are funny things. I can tell you many stories about GG but maybe later:D
 

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I have not revived my new ggts yet, but im sure all of this is un called for... yes i have the older ggts, and yes i have had problems with it.. but is there a thread where i complained? nope.. just questions looking for answers. After that, im still a GG supporter! and only use the GGTS after trying 10 different mods.. :D
I bet the V2 is absolutely amazing.. i have not came across-ed a GG that wasn't amazing! Mist, you did the right thing by posting! :p
 

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Just want to share my personal opinion, when i first received the cap replacement and AVS i did think that they looked as durable as my #122 GGTS, didn't really mind and last night i clean them up using Cape Cod, to my surprise they look shiny and match my old GGTS very well.

And the adjustable draw replacement cap does bring much better vaping experience.

I wonder what an ultrasonic cleaner can do to get my GGTS shiny.
 

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I also saw a photo of this man showing an o-ring and saying that GG has problems!!!!!!!!!!!!

An o-ring that is not totally rounded!!! Its my fault too?

I said already that o-rings are produced just for food from a Greek small factory. My concern was even to the o-rings and this is bad again? O-rings are perfect, they just have some "ears" from each side, they are not damaged!

Toke, if you dont understand some things or have questions please come here and talk to me. Ask me anything and I will explain
 
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anim8r

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Imeo,

To me it appears to be a bit of bashing coming from a supporter of a previous supplier of GG products.

When I have my GGTS assembled with AW 18650, Batt's, there is no rattle at all.

That may be my case too... I always use a single battery and none of my GGTS's rattle and never have.

btw Imeo, you're a freakin' genius! I love this new AVS.
 

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Imeo;
dont trip on it (my greek friend) you cant please everyone. What people fail to understand is you have to learn and be more mechanical. I dont have rattling issues because from the minute I got my GGTS, I totally dissected it ( basically broke it down to its small pieces) ; then I re-installed everything after looking at it. My button never rattled, why lock tite my friends... The lock-tite removable... And I noalox the parts that need it; even the adaprts that I havent used yet.

Dont trip Imeo... its like this... There people who are more mechanical and good with their hands than other. While other are better at thinkers ...You cant please everyone and some people you have to spoon feed every step of the way... Kinda like me when I got my AFS V2, lol... But, again I was lucky to have the experience from the AFS V2 to understand the AVS...

So, just let it be... dust your shoulders off ( slang for shrug it off your shoulders) and not worry about it...
 

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Hi Imeo,

First off, let me tell you that I love the GGTS/AVS I just received. Also that I've never owned or even seen first hand the 2009 model.
In my opinion, any non performance / sturdiness diminishing weight or size reduction of an item designed to be used and transported manually is always an improvement.
The overall quality and attention to detail of my GGTS is obvious and I both use and display it with great pride.
However, I can also confirm the "rattling" stated in the above review. It originates from both ends of the telescopic tube. My "rattle" disappears when I substantially tighten the GGTS at each end of the Telescopic Tube.
Though I'm by no means an engineer or machinest, I'm willing to bet a tray of Baklava that the GGTS "rattle" is caused by the Outside Diameter of the Telescopic Tube being just a little too small (probably only off by a few thousands of an inch)...
The reason I believe that is because not only is the play side to side, but also up and down when threaded.

To cure any thread movement try Noalox on threads works a treat
 

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Is the ggts v2 made of the same aluminum as the new telescoping piece?

This could explain the initial impression as stated on the review thread. I had to go cheap on this latest round of releases. That, and my 'old' gear is still working so well. But I had to get the new telescoping piece.

Anyway, the aluminum telescoping piece is so light and shiny that I initially wondered about its quality, as it almost made me think it was plastic. I haven't had a problem with it, and I do like it's lightness and shine.

If the new ggts was made out of the same material, and Tokes didn't spend very much time with it, I could see how he could come to that conclusion initially.

I don't have a '10 version of the GGTS, so I'm staying out of that review thread. I kind of suspect it's 'troll bait' anyway. But his time with the unit was so brief, and his conclusions so broad that I have misgivings about his review.
 
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