$217 minimum order? come on!

[Di]

China Express Price List

China Express Price List - EMS China

go here to check your shipping rates via China EM Express

please note the stated shipping rate is ------ on the right hand side –

in the second TABLE at the bottom,
and the stated rate is --- xxxx -- for the first 500grams,
after that it is – Plus – xxxx -- for each additional 500 grams,

the conversion rate is approximately -- 5RMB = US$1.00

so for example ----

a 1500gram package to South Africa or Saudi Arabia would be -----

--- 445RMB = US$89.00 -- for the first 500grams,
– Plus – 120RMB = US$24.00 -- for each additional 500 grams,

So this 1500gram package from EM Express
Would be ---- US$89.00 + US$24.00 + US$24.00
Total shipping of --- US$137.00

This is by my calculation from their shipping chart on the above url page ---

I hope I got it right ---------


Now –please understand this --------

it does not matter where you are

It is the shipping rates to that place set by ems express that counts – that is all

And we – Eastmall, -- has no control over that -------


I think David gets a bit better rate for volume shipping -- but not much -------

 

[EMRocks]

Great post Di, it's interesting to see how expensive stuff is to ship internationally! For us Americans, the 1500 gram package in Di's example is only about 3.3 lbs. Which means a 3 lb package from China to Saudi Arabia would cost David about $130 to send. That same 3 lb package would cost about $60 to send to the USA. Hence the differences in MOQ per country.

The MOQ's are in place so that David can still provide some of the lowest prices in the industry, PLUS offer a low flat-rate shipping without taking a loss on the order. Once you see how expensive the shipping costs REALLY are, this starts to become a bit clearer.

FYI: MOQ in the USA is still $53 including shipping ($36 in items), for those who stated their concern that it went up from $50 to $217 in the USA.

 

[Di]

Yes, altho david does get a discount for volume shipping with em

it still has to be subsidized, and he does do it
but there is a limit

 

[EMRocks]

Yes, altho david does get a discount for volume shipping with em

it still has to be subsidized, and he does do it
but there is a limit

Good point, though like you said, I'm sure it's not an extreme discount

 

[dskarpus]

Great post Di, it's interesting to see how expensive stuff is to ship internationally! For us Americans, the 1500 gram package in Di's example is only about 3.3 lbs. Which means a 3 lb package from China to Saudi Arabia would cost David about $130 to send. That same 3 lb package would cost about $60 to send to the USA. Hence the differences in MOQ per country.

The MOQ's are in place so that David can still provide some of the lowest prices in the industry, PLUS offer a low flat-rate shipping without taking a loss on the order. Once you see how expensive the shipping costs REALLY are, this starts to become a bit clearer.

FYI: MOQ in the USA is still $53 including shipping ($36 in items), for those who stated their concern that it went up from $50 to $217 in the USA.

US 1500 grams : RMB 240 + 75 + 75
US$ 36 + 11 + 11 =~ $58

SAUDI ARABIA : RMB 445 + 120 + 120
US$ 67 + 18 + 18=~ $103

6.65 RMB (CHINESE YUAN) = 1 US $

 

[EMRocks]

US 1500 grams : RMB 240 + 75 + 75
US$ 36 + 11 + 11 =~ $58

SAUDI ARABIA : RMB 445 + 120 + 120
US$ 67 + 18 + 18=~ $103

I was going by the 5 RMB = $1 USD conversion. According to actual real-time conversion via Google though, 6.6433 RMB = $1 USD, so you would be correct.

So 1500 grams (3.31 lbs) would literally be exactly $58.71 USD to the USA, and $103.11 USD to Saudi Arabia.

RMB = Chinese Yuan, in case anyone was wondering

Thanks DSK

 

[wael]

OK OK Di you win EM sure knows how to choose Associates \:

i tried other stores in china and calculated frights for my address and a US address, mine was double what was calculated for the US one, so now i hate EMS, and because you share the "EM" letters with EMS, you are guilty too

at least do something about the MOQ for us ,maybe something in middle between $50-200,
there is nothing like a fast checkout, sending e-mails and waiting for shipping quotes aint fun.

 

[EMRocks]

OK OK Di you win EM sure knows how to choose Associates \:

i tried other stores in china and calculated frights for my address and a US address, mine was double what was calculated for the US one, so now i hate EMS, and because you share the "EM" letters with EMS, you are guilty too

at least do something about the MOQ for us ,maybe something in middle between $50-200,
there is nothing like a fast checkout, sending e-mails and waiting for shipping quotes aint fun.

I agree with you though that it is odd that EMS charges almost double the shipping rates to another place that's also in Asia. Half price for double the distance is... weird to say the least. Unfortunately as you know we can't control their prices

 

[dskarpus]

I was going by the 5 RMB = $1 USD conversion. According to actual real-time conversion via Google though, 6.6433 RMB = $1 USD, so you would be correct.

So 1500 grams (3.31 lbs) would literally be exactly $58.71 USD to the USA, and $103.11 USD to Saudi Arabia.

RMB = Chinese Yuan, in case anyone was wondering

Thanks DSK

You lose points again. "exactly now" would be more correct. RMB floats. Up to a couple of years ago 8.+ was the exchange rate. With the $ weakening, even in the last few months the $ has lost several percent in value.

How David deals with this is too much for me to think about.

 

[EMRocks]

You lose points again. "exactly now" would be more correct. RMB floats. Up to a couple of years ago 8.+ was the exchange rate. With the $ weakening, even in the last few months the $ has lost several percent in value.

How David deals with this is too much for me to think about.

I have no clue, but I certainly know it must not be an easy job for him. He'd literally have to keep track of the current currency values for just about everywhere in the world, being an international company. This alone would be enough to give anyone a headache.

And yeah, the dollar loses value almost daily. It's sad...

 

[Di]

Ok I give up

this is not my department

please contact david about this issue or selina.

I am sorry I can do nothing here ------

 

[wael]

Ok I give up

this is not my department

please contact david about this issue or selina.

I am sorry I can do nothing here ------

 

[Di]

hahahaha -- Wael,

that is a funny one, - I like it -

I dont know what is the answer is for this shipping stuff, I wish I could fix it -
I have asked david to look at it all again, maybe he can come up with something for you all, --------

 

[Di]

WAEL --------------------

this from David -----

[12:49:51] 2-David: hi, yes, we ship to Saudi $32 for the first 500gram

please make sure you contact Selina to make her aware of your request to have the
option of this shipping and no min order quota --

thankyou

 

[Esig]

< Snip >

Please go advertise somewhere else -

thankyou

this is eastmall forum,
do not advertise here your own or others products.

 

[EMRocks]

@Esig - why would you post this here? This is a forum for EM customers, not directing customers to other websites. If you do not wish to be an EM customer, that is perfectly fine, we can't please everyone, but please refrain from posting negativity and advertisements on our forum. Requesting moderation on the above post, and please lock this thread. The OP's issue has been resolved, so no reason to leave it for necromancing.

PS - buying and selling ecigs and nicotine/tobacco products is illegal and against the TOS on the website in question, so be careful you don't get yourself in trouble.

 

[BartS]

Ecig, I totally agree with EMRocks.

If you cannot give any positive criticism, and just want to moan and grown, keep it to yourself, and please do not advertise other vendors on this Forum. (That is basic forum etiquette).

I buy from EM regularly, and I me very happy with their products and service. If you do a little bit of planning, you can manage the shipping issue also.

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[Di]

I agree with David on this issue,
this is eastmall forum,
do not advertise or attempt to sell other sellers or their products on our forum thankyou.

and thanks Bart and Chris,
this behavior in our forum, - is extremly bad manners.

 

[no0b]

Just my 2c. I'm from Romania and for me 17$ shipping seems a lot for what I usually buy. But there is a workaround for that. I always get a few friends to order with me, so if we are 3-4 people the shipping is less per person. Together with my friends I usually place orders for $400-500 and divide the shipping costs and paypal transfer costs as well. That way we don't have to worry about any MOQ or whine about shipping.
Come on people, Eastmall is doing everything they can for us and people still cry about the MOQ or shipping costs.
Just get on a group ...erm...order (nearly typed something else xD ) and everything will be fine.

 

[Di]

this is smart thinking Noob
many peeps do get together and do a group order -- eeeeerr !! hahahahaha

yes, I think this is a great idea,

especially for the ones where the shipping costs are rather high.