28 Gauge - 1.0ohm 3.7v mech - takes a while to plume

[JuniorNA]

Hey all. I decided to try out 28 gauge so I can try the lower ohm resistance on my aga -T. I've used 36 gauge before and that gets hot really fast but the 28 gauge takes a few primer puffs to heat up.

I figured it would take a little bit longer since its 28 gauge and the wire is thick but is that normal ?






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[pdib]

This is an experienced guess. I've been using mostly 26 and 28 lately. It seems to me, that, within the margins of a nicely working coil, there are still subtle differences. It seems like your coil is a bit tight.

 

[Thrasher]

it should fire right up, so two things are you sure the battery is charged and are you certain the coil is reading 1 ohm.

 

[ukeman]

28g A1 Kanthal is almost fool proof for 1.0 and under in my experience... and it should fire up immediately.
the thicker wire seems to alleviate hot spot problems better than the thinner wire i.e. 32g.

You need a mechanical device of course, that is designed to have good conductivity... (brass connections).
Sounds like a batt or device problem

 

[JuniorNA]

Whats the best way to admit it was a battery prob without sounding terribly stupid ?


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[Thrasher]

lol never admit fault. the wife mixed up the uncharged batteries, the dog knocked the mod over and the button was whacked etc.

 

[dhomes]

BTW, as I'm about to receive two mech mods I do have an extra question

If using 18650 batts (the Panasonic hybrid ones) and 28 kanthal @ (0.8 to 1), How long the battery should last before the vape experience starts to degrade?

I know there are several variables, but I'm looking for a ballpark. I usually vape about 5ml / day when using Genesis attys

 

[ukeman]

BTW, as I'm about to receive two mech mods I do have an extra question

If using 18650 batts (the Panasonic hybrid ones) and 28 kanthal @ (0.8 to 1), How long the battery should last before the vape experience starts to degrade?

I know there are several variables, but I'm looking for a ballpark. I usually vape about 5ml / day when using Genesis attys

I have 3 devices that i use daily... 2 iHybrids and a Poldiac... i probably go through 4 to 8 ml a day. I get through the day and a bit of the next day before I find myself changing out my IMR's... I have 2 MNKE 18650's and at least half a doz. AW IMR's. A good Pila charger keeps you ahead of the game.

 

[vapdivrr]

BTW, as I'm about to receive two mech mods I do have an extra question

If using 18650 batts (the Panasonic hybrid ones) and 28 kanthal @ (0.8 to 1), How long the battery should last before the vape experience starts to degrade?

I know there are several variables, but I'm looking for a ballpark. I usually vape about 5ml / day when using Genesis attys

i know alot of people will say that they perfer a vv mod over a mechanical because of the fact that with the mechanical mod the vape degrades. well it does but it does take a while. if i am using my provari and a 1-ohm coil this set-up will completly die out way before i would notice any difference in the vape of the mechanical mod with the same 1-ohm coil, and the 1-ohm coil on the mechanical mod is actually pushing more watts then the one on the provari.

 

[vapdivrr]

Hey all. I decided to try out 28 gauge so I can try the lower ohm resistance on my aga -T. I've used 36 gauge before and that gets hot really fast but the 28 gauge takes a few primer puffs to heat up.

I figured it would take a little bit longer since its 28 gauge and the wire is thick but is that normal ?

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i always use the 28g and low resistances, now if you were used to lets say a 3/4 wrap of 32, or 36, and now you are trying a 6/7 wrap of 28g then yes, the coil can be a little slower then the thinner wire set-up. 28g is thicker and depending on the amount of wraps it does take a little more time to heat up. now if you can get a 3/4 wrap of 28g, then this would be pretty quick. so the more wraps of 28 then the slower it will be. what can be done instead of priming is to depress the button on your pv as you are bringing it up to vape, this will give it just a second to get going. the advantages of the thicker wire will become more prevalent as you get more used to it.

 

[JuniorNA]

i know alot of people will say that they perfer a vv mod over a mechanical because of the fact that with the mechanical mod the vape degrades. well it does but it does take a while. if i am using my provari and a 1-ohm coil this set-up will completly die out way before i would notice any difference in the vape of the mechanical mod with the same 1-ohm coil, and the 1-ohm coil on the mechanical mod is actually pushing more watts then the one on the provari.

Why is the provari dying out before the mech ? My issue is with 18350s. I get like 4 hour Out of them and I'm not even really vaping that heavy. Sure I know I'm at 1ohm so were at 4 amps and 16 watts but I would think the battery can last longer than that. Thats the only reason I would never get a provari mini - these batteries are terrible. An ego battery lasts twice as long - granted were not pushing the ego battery to the extreme like we do with these - I'll stick with 18650s if I want a long constant vape


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[JuniorNA]

i always use the 28g and low resistances, now if you were used to lets say a 3/4 wrap of 32, or 36, and now you are trying a 6/7 wrap of 28g then yes, the coil can be a little slower then the thinner wire set-up. 28g is thicker and depending on the amount of wraps it does take a little more time to heat up. now if you can get a 3/4 wrap of 28g, then this would be pretty quick. so the more wraps of 28 then the slower it will be. what can be done instead of priming is to depress the button on your pv as you are bringing it up to vape, this will give it just a second to get going. the advantages of the thicker wire will become more prevalent as you get more used to it.

Perfect idea and thank you ! I'm firing it up about 1.5 seconds before I vape and it's wonderful. I think I have a 5 wrap of 28 gauge. I'll have to switch to thinner wire soon because my did clone and cobra simply don't have the screws to handle the large wire - they won't screw down. - so when I take a ride to home depot I'll check for washers that will fit and use a pen spring to clamp on that
Positive connection - it not then I hve to use 30 gauge


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[Thrasher]

Sure I know I'm at 1ohm so were at 4 amps and 16 watts but I would think the battery can last longer than that.

700mah at 1 amp= roughly 7 hrs, IF you could run the battery down to no charge so actually more like 5-6 hours.
700mah at 4 amps? the fact you get anywhere near 4 hours at 4 amp output is pretty good.

 

[PhreakySTS9]

Perfect idea and thank you ! I'm firing it up about 1.5 seconds before I vape and it's wonderful. I think I have a 5 wrap of 28 gauge. I'll have to switch to thinner wire soon because my did clone and cobra simply don't have the screws to handle the large wire - they won't screw down. - so when I take a ride to home depot I'll check for washers that will fit and use a pen spring to clamp on that
Positive connection - it not then I hve to use 30 gauge


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I used to do a 3/2 wrap of 32g nichrome (it has a slightly smaller resistance than 32g kanthal) on my Cobra and throw it on my GGTB and it was absolutely wonderful! Even though it was higher g wire, the cobra wick and setup is so small, that a 3/2 wrap is hardly any wire and it was a nice low ohm. It would have been a bit higher resistance with 32g kanthal, but for genesis' I always prefered nichrome, smoother vape IMO.

32g kanthal A-1 = 1.2ohms/inch 32g nichrome = 0.9ohms/inch It was probably 1.0-1.1ohms. Awesome vape, even for non twisted 32g!

 

[kimbo55]

Perfect idea and thank you ! I'm firing it up about 1.5 seconds before I vape and it's wonderful. I think I have a 5 wrap of 28 gauge. I'll have to switch to thinner wire soon because my did clone and cobra simply don't have the screws to handle the large wire - they won't screw down. - so when I take a ride to home depot I'll check for washers that will fit and use a pen spring to clamp on that
Positive connection - it not then I hve to use 30 gauge



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In the same boat as you Jr. Rethinking the 18350 mods. Chain vaping sure don't help. Hammer down, vape hard.

 

[JuniorNA]

700mah at 1 amp= roughly 7 hrs, IF you could run the battery down to no charge so actually more like 5-6 hours.
700mah at 4 amps? the fact you get anywhere near 4 hours at 4 amp output is pretty good.

I guess you're right. Well the amps decrease as the voltage does so on average it's at 3.7amps. Lol I guess you're right.


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[vapdivrr]

Why is the provari dying out before the mech ? My issue is with 18350s. I get like 4 hour Out of them and I'm not even really vaping that heavy. Sure I know I'm at 1ohm so were at 4 amps and 16 watts but I would think the battery can last longer than that. Thats the only reason I would never get a provari mini - these batteries are terrible. An ego battery lasts twice as long - granted were not pushing the ego battery to the extreme like we do with these - I'll stick with 18650s if I want a long constant vape


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it can also depend on the actual battery itself, a good quality aw imr can make a difference. but just in general a vv device will tend to eat batterys at low resistances because of the boosters, and just the electronics that it has. where as a mechanical mod is just a battery.

 

[vapdivrr]

Perfect idea and thank you ! I'm firing it up about 1.5 seconds before I vape and it's wonderful. I think I have a 5 wrap of 28 gauge. I'll have to switch to thinner wire soon because my did clone and cobra simply don't have the screws to handle the large wire - they won't screw down. - so when I take a ride to home depot I'll check for washers that will fit and use a pen spring to clamp on that
Positive connection - it not then I hve to use 30 gauge
30g is really nice as well, so both the 28g and 30g does fine and alot better then the 32g. the main reason i perfer the thicker wires is just the fact that i find they bring out the flavor more, and produce a fluffier and thicker vape and that they make setting up a coil easier. also the thicker wires are so much more stable, once a set up is done with the thicker wires it seems like they just stay put and dont move, creating a more consistant vape.