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I totally agree with you on this.
But of all the people on here that could possibly be convinced of our ways, Rule is not one of them...believe me, I tried, and gave up trying months ago
I've got a lot of respect for the guy, though. One of the most knowledgeable among us regulars on this subforum.
I totally agree with you on this.
But of all the people on here that could possibly be convinced of our ways, Rule is not one of them...believe me, I tried, and gave up trying months ago
I've got a lot of respect for the guy, though. One of the most knowledgeable among us regulars on this subforum.
i can definatly see that
this is a perfect example of how we all get to the same place with different setups. i also run a 32g 2ohm coil but run about 3.8 to 4.0V and love my buttery clouds.
My only issue with running full mechanical is lack of regulation.
I have a serious dislike of getting my hour of amazing vape then watching it tail off as the battery output drops.
I have a serious dislike of getting my hour of amazing vape then watching it tail off as the battery output drops.
I have tried LR set ups. I have a couple friends who are huge mechanical mod fans, who regularly build sub 1.0Ω coils. I've tried their set ups many times, actually as recently as this afternoon. I honestly see no advantage to what they're doing. But it's jmo. They seem to like it.
Do you use the DBM? or a hollow wick? Or a device other than the provari? might explain the difference.
You're absolutely right, and yeah, ain't no wrong way to vape, especially with genesis stuff.
The only time any of mine tail off is when I drain the batts down to 2.5 volts. lol
The only time any of mine tail off is when I drain the batts down to 2.5 volts. lol
The difference between a freshly charged battery and one at 4v is noticeable enough.
right now i have one cobra set up with a 500 solid and the other setup with a 400-500 hollow, maybe its my juice? dunno but i start to get to the 4.4 or higher range it becomes too warm for me, i only use a prov as i didnt enjoy a mech with a geni, i personally saw a big difference from fresh to dead battery and want it to be the same all day.
i have also been down to .9 on a mech and up to 3.4 ohms and like it best right where it is. but i prefer a cooler vape. and i see no problem with response time or vape production. i press the button, take a drag and nice poofy clouds with a rich buttery texture.
im not ignorant of the fact it will produce some more if i turn it up but really i want to vape not choak myself, flavor and quality is more important then making the biggest clouds i can to me. my head spins now when i chain and i get a nice thump in my neck so i like it here.
i have also been down to .9 on a mech and up to 3.4 ohms and like it best right where it is. but i prefer a cooler vape. and i see no problem with response time or vape production. i press the button, take a drag and nice poofy clouds with a rich buttery texture.
im not ignorant of the fact it will produce some more if i turn it up but really i want to vape not choak myself, flavor and quality is more important then making the biggest clouds i can to me. my head spins now when i chain and i get a nice thump in my neck so i like it here.
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The difference between a freshly charged battery and one at 4v is noticeable enough.
You would think so...
but, like I said, the right setup REALLY makes a big, huge, world-changing difference.
18350 batts are a different story, but 18650's at .7 ohms will keep a good, steady vape going all the way down past 3.2 volts.
It's all about technique, too...I want a strong vape with a short drag, like smoking a cigarette only with more vapor. I tend to take short puffs, and I expect to have lots of vapor every time, even if I'm chain vaping vertically...
I ran a zenesis standard on .8ohm coils for months, it's still super obvious when the voltage starts to drop.
It would be, on a Zenesis.
The difference between .7 and .8 ohms is not like the difference between, say, 3.1 and 3.2 ohms. The lower the resistance, the more that number matters, exponentially.
The difference between .7 and .8 ohms is not like the difference between, say, 3.1 and 3.2 ohms. The lower the resistance, the more that number matters, exponentially.
I think a lot of it depends on your vaping style. I'm an old pipe and cigar smoker; so I like long, slow, drags, rather than the quick hit. Immediate response time isn't really my thing. My average drags are probably 5-6 seconds. I agree that the lower ohm coils respond quicker. I just don't vape that way.
It still makes no difference to the fact that battery voltage drop in unregulated devices is obvious.
you know i really dont commit to just one device, i love my vv device and see all of the advantages with it, also i love my mechanical mod with its pure power. so i have both and see both sides. i just cannot wait till there is a regulated device that has a super low ohm cut off. i have heard something about a dual chip of somekind, maybe something that is affiliated with the darwin device. i really dont know. i am sure ninja might know something about this. all i do know is that it will be epic.
I don't commit to one device either. I rotate several, throughout the day. But all of my devices are either VV or VW. I've been using VV almost since I began vaping. But I am committed to genesis style RBAs. I think they are the best thing to come along, so far. Variable wattage has come a long way recently. When I first started vaping, the only thing around was the Darwin, which was/is rarer than hens' teeth. Nowadays, the Chinese seem to be getting it figured out. The early ZMax weren't very good at VW. Since then, there are several choices that work very well. For me, I think it's tough to beat the combination of a well built genny and a VW device.
so the darwins now are hard to get? never liked the look of them, but heard they are kind of nice. like i said yesterday i have heard of device in which its electronics will allow it to be a vv or vw and protected and have the capability to achieve resistances super low, it would be a game changer, a most versitile device. i just dont remmember who is trying to perfect or manufacturing it.
I'm no electronics expert, but my guess is that it probably could be done easily. As I understand it, those cut offs aren't designed into the electronics for the protection of the device. They are designed for protection of the batteries being used, and the safety of the user. With mechanical mods, it's possible to exceed the C ratings of batteries, which can be dangerous. I saw a Youtube video of a guy, the other day, who was blowing huge clouds of vapor, using a mechanical mod with stacked 18350 batteries, and vaping at 24 watts. Insane!
Ah, unfortunately I haven't heard anything about a chipset for LR genesis vapers...
If anyone were to do it, though, the guys from Evolv (DNA20, Kick, Darwin) would be the ones to make it happen, I would think.
My friend does crazy builds with stacked batts. He had a box mod that ran at 49 watts...and regularly goes througn 10-15ml's a day on his setups.
If anyone were to do it, though, the guys from Evolv (DNA20, Kick, Darwin) would be the ones to make it happen, I would think.
My friend does crazy builds with stacked batts. He had a box mod that ran at 49 watts...and regularly goes througn 10-15ml's a day on his setups.
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