3.7v, 5v, 6v, whats the deal??? Do they all work with 510 atty???

[jons]

mod please move this thread if need be. Not really sure where to post it.

Ok all I need some info. I keep hearing about volt 3.7v, 5v, 6v. I really doint understand how these work into the e cig world. I'm looking into the mods, box mods, laser pointer mods, pass thrus and things like that. Everytime I come across another thread or video on youtube everyone is talking about volts. Ok so I get it.... the higher the volts the bigger the vape. Ok... But how does this effect the atomizer? can I put a 510 atomizer on any one of these volts? Thats my biggest question really.I would like to get into making my own mods and I figure I should understand these things,lol. Any info on this subject would be helpful,thanks all.

 

[DaMulta]

Ok it all plays to watts.

The cable in the atty is spun on say 2.5Ohm. At 5v you will get about 10Watts on that system.

If you have a LR atty it is spun say around 1.5Ohm, So at 3.7v you will get about 10 watts on that system.

More or less the more watts the hotter it will vapor. Some people like it really hot, and others don't like it as hot.

Hope this helps.

 

[bassthumper]

and a HR atty at 6v does about 10w too

 

[jons]

It does help thank you but.. will a 510 atomizer work on all of the differant levels? If I make a mod can I just go for the highest volts, watts I can or do I have to worry about how the atty will handle it?

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

...can I put a 510 atomizer on any one of these volts? Thats my biggest question really.

You can use a standard 510 on any device that's threaded to accept it, at whatever voltage; you may prefer to use a HV 510 at 5V or up, or an LR at 3.7V.

 

[DaMulta]

All the 510 means is a 510 thread to the battery..


It helps to understand all an atty is toaster wire wrapped up inside of a ceramic dish.

As with ALL atomizers. Some last a day some last a week, and some last months. The main thing to keeping them alive is keeping them wet with liquid.

 

[Vidi]

Great thread. Im learning alot.

So the standard 510 atomizer is considered HV correct?

I can place it on any battery that will fit the thread and that shouldnt automatically kill the atomizer?

Should I be concerned about placing LR atomizers on any battery?

 

[cozzicon]

Great thread. Im learning alot.

So the standard 510 atomizer is considered HV correct?

I can place it on any battery that will fit the thread and that shouldnt automatically kill the atomizer?

Should I be concerned about placing LR atomizers on any battery?

As I understand it... a standard 510 atty is not a HV (high voltage) atty. It can run at higher voltage, at the expense of it's lifespan. an LR atty (low resistance) essentially gives you the high voltage vaping experience with a standard battery. Don't use LR atties on high voltage batteries.

As an aside- I'm not a fan of either HV or LR vaping. It's a taste issue for me. HV or LR 510s make the vapor too hot for me. Some people agree with me, some people don't.

You get to decide for yourself

 

[bones25]

LR's could be a problem with high drain batteries if the unit is not spec'd to use it....i.e wetbox ok with high drain and standard type carto, but not spec'd for LR carto....might short out.

 

[jons]

I am thinking about gutting a blackberry pearl and inserting a 510 thread to attach my atty. I was hoping to use the blackberry battery itself. If this dosent work out I am thinking about what else can I make a mod out of. I just am not to sure if on a homemade mod if the battery will be an issue. Like... I actually just got a mod box and I was told to only put a 10440 battery into it.... Y?

 

[jons]

You can use a standard 510 on any device that's threaded to accept it, at whatever voltage; you may prefer to use a HV 510 at 5V or up, or an LR at 3.7V.

Thanks for that... it was like pulling teeth but I needed to hear it from someone,lol. Thanks again.

 

[jons]

All the 510 means is a 510 thread to the battery..


It helps to understand all an atty is toaster wire wrapped up inside of a ceramic dish.

As with ALL atomizers. Some last a day some last a week, and some last months. The main thing to keeping them alive is keeping them wet with liquid.

That is an awsome way of looking at it! Thanks.

 

[brandon555]

Some people like Joye 510s at six volts but I don't know how. Even at 5 volts I think they get too hot... unless its an old, broken in atty. Personally I like the SLB510 or Bauway 510 at five volts. They have a little higher resistance.

 

[jons]

yeah I have an riva coming my way. I'm hoping it is a step up from the standard 510. Otherwise I will have to figure something out because it just seems as if my 510 just isnt cutting it. Maybe I just need new atties.

 

[T^2]

Knowing the basic power equation helps. Power = Volts^2/Resistance(ohms). So a standard 510 atty at 2.3 ohms used with 6V will produce 15.6 watts. Even if the atty coil survives that much current and power, most would say that that is way to hot (will give a burnt taste). That's why HV attys are used at higher votages - the HV attys are higher resistance (say 4.3 ohms for example). An HV atty at 4.3 ohms will give you 8.3 watts. There is a sweet spot spoken about around here. Opinions very about where it is (defined by personal taste), but that spot generally exist between 5 and 10 watts.

The other consideration is just how much current and power the atty coil can take without burning out. I've never seen those specifications, but a maximum exist nonetheless. Pushing an atty coil to it's limits will also likely reduce its service life - if it doesn't kill it outright.

Lower voltage batteries are generally used with standard or LR attys. A standard 510 atty at 2.3 ohms used with 3.7V will give you 5.9 watts. A LR atty (1.5 ohms) with the same battery will give you 9.1 watts.

So matching an atty and a battery/voltages is partly a matter or getting the wattage in the right range for you and also not burning out the coil.

Another consideration is atty type (501 vs. 306 vs. 901 etc) because they perform differently. That's a topic for another day...

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

yeah I have an riva coming my way. I'm hoping it is a step up from the standard 510. Otherwise I will have to figure something out because it just seems as if my 510 just isnt cutting it. Maybe I just need new atties.

It will be a step up for a couple of reasons, the first being a modest but noticeable voltage increase, and the 750mAh batteries will permit the use of LR attys--and that may do it for you. Also, you won't have to switch out the batteries quite so often.

 

[CaptJay]

My basic (non LR or HV) 510 atties work fine all the way up to at least 5.5v - I haven't tried them higher because Id be afriad of blowing them. But your original question was do they work and yes they do.