3.7v vs 5v observation & question

[Agrion]

Hi all,

I am using a KR808D-1 with CoolCarts from V4L. I have a passthrough that came with my kit.

I have mostly been using the passthrough which I believe is 5v. I have only occasionally used the batteries, which I believe are 3.7v, when doing yard work or driving.

I ran several errands today and took my PV with me which gave me an opportunity to use my batteries for an extended period of time. I noticed something today and I would like to learn more about voltage and how it effects vaping.

I have some liquids that have chocolate in them, the whole time I have been vaping them with my passthrough I could taste burnt chocolate. I filled a couple of cartos with these flavors to take with me to use them up. What I noticed is that the flavors of my liquids that contained chocolate were better when using the batteries, they no longer tasted burnt.

When I got home I tried all of my flavors with my batteries and they all tasted better when compared to the passthrough.

I have read about different PVs with various power levels, 3.7v, 5v, 6v.

My question is what is the effect of the different power levels on vaping? I am mostly interested in flavor, I would like to get the best possible flavor from my liquids. I also like a lot of vapor but I know that vapor can be adjusted by changing the PG/VG mix. The least important thing to me is TH.

Thanks for any info you can provide.

 

[LowThudd]

Yea, I am not one who needs more power, and I think it does negatively effect the flavor. I used an LR atty for a little while, most flavors it killed. Some flavors were just as good, and a couple were actually better. I think higher power is a bit over rated. I am happy w/ my eGo.

 

[Zapp and Roger]

Hi all,

I am using a KR808D-1 with CoolCarts from V4L. I have a passthrough that came with my kit.

I have mostly been using the passthrough which I believe is 5v. I have only occasionally used the batteries, which I believe are 3.7v, when doing yard work or driving.

I ran several errands today and took my PV with me which gave me an opportunity to use my batteries for an extended period of time. I noticed something today and I would like to learn more about voltage and how it effects vaping.

I have some liquids that have chocolate in them, the whole time I have been vaping them with my passthrough I could taste burnt chocolate. I filled a couple of cartos with these flavors to take with me to use them up. What I noticed is that the flavors of my liquids that contained chocolate were better when using the batteries, they no longer tasted burnt.

When I got home I tried all of my flavors with my batteries and they all tasted better when compared to the passthrough.

I have read about different PVs with various power levels, 3.7v, 5v, 6v.

My question is what is the effect of the different power levels on vaping? I am mostly interested in flavor, I would like to get the best possible flavor from my liquids. I also like a lot of vapor but I know that vapor can be adjusted by changing the PG/VG mix. The least important thing to me is TH.

Thanks for any info you can provide.

Similar experience here, my menthol juices are just wonderful on the 5v passthrough, but the minute I put a caramel in there, YUCK! Waffle is better at 5v than 3.7 imho, but the milk chocolate tasted terrible. I have separated my juices tried so far into categories, but am really curious if cutting with more VG might help improve the flavor at higher voltage.

 

[Kent C]

HMy question is what is the effect of the different power levels on vaping? I am mostly interested in flavor, I would like to get the best possible flavor from my liquids. I also like a lot of vapor but I know that vapor can be adjusted by changing the PG/VG mix. The least important thing to me is TH.

Thanks for any info you can provide.

First, it's the wattage not the voltage. Watts take into consideration the resistance of the atomizer, in ohms and the voltage of the battery. If you have a lower voltage batt with a low ohm atty you can get the same wattage as a higher voltage batt.

AND.... different flavors respond diffferently to the heat. In general, strong flavors - tobacco, coffee, french pipe, cigar do well with more wattage whereas fruit, berry, vanilla, chocolate do better with less heat. Some flavors seem to do well in both - RY4 as an example.

While it is true that VG will produce more vapor than PG - everything else constant, you will get more vapor with more wattage - ie. more ejuice being vaporized. So wattage is probably more instrumental in vapor than the VG/PG blend - although again, that is a factor.

 

[Agrion]

While it is true that VG will produce more vapor than PG - everything else constant, you will get more vapor with more wattage

I did notice that I get more vapor from the 5v passthrough. I am getting a good amount of vapor at 3.7v, no complaints there. The better flavor at 3.7v is the tipping point for me.

Since using just the batteries yesterday and today I am switching them out rather quickly, about every 2 hours of heavy vaping, that's pretty annoying. I thought I would get about 4 hours with these batteries. So now I'm on the hunt for a 3.7v PV with a long battery life.

I think I've settled on the Hello 016. Any thoughts? Best place to buy one?

Thanks.

 

[Blaze]

Hello 016 Kits

Madvapes.com carries them, and about the best prices you'll find

 

[Agrion]

Thanks Blaze! Unfortunately they're out of stock.

 

[o4_srt]

First, it's the wattage not the voltage. Watts take into consideration the resistance of the atomizer, in ohms and the voltage of the battery. If you have a lower voltage batt with a low ohm atty you can get the same wattage as a higher voltage batt.

AND.... different flavors respond diffferently to the heat. In general, strong flavors - tobacco, coffee, french pipe, cigar do well with more wattage whereas fruit, berry, vanilla, chocolate do better with less heat. Some flavors seem to do well in both - RY4 as an example.

While it is true that VG will produce more vapor than PG - everything else constant, you will get more vapor with more wattage - ie. more ejuice being vaporized. So wattage is probably more instrumental in vapor than the VG/PG blend - although again, that is a factor.

I would say they are both equal in this aspect. Increasing power does give you much more vapor, however, vaping 100% pg vs 100% vg at a given power level is a night and day difference. for optimum vapor: 100% vg at high voltage. I've filled my car with vapor to the point where I could barely see when a car approached from the other direction (rolled windows down shortly thereafter) using a 5v mod and 100% vg.

VG vapor tends to linger a bit longer too, more like analog smoke, whereas PG tends to dissipate almost immediately.

 

[doots]

The best advice to you is to get a variable voltage mod.

Or

Have a different mod for each voltage.

Each liquid is going to respond differently at different volts.

That is why vari volt mods are the best way to go..

 

[Kent C]

I would say they are both equal in this aspect.

They're not equal in this respect - vape at 2 Watts with 100% VG - no vapor. What you're saying is VG is better for vapor that PG and I didn't disagree with that, but without wattage neither does anything. With neither PG or VG, wattage will create vapor out of the moisture in the air.

 

[CaptJay]

The best advice to you is to get a variable voltage mod.

Or

Have a different mod for each voltage.

Each liquid is going to respond differently at different volts.

That is why vari volt mods are the best way to go..

I have to agree - I really love mine

 

[Kent C]

I have to agree - I really love mine

I'm tempted, but there's enough different ohm'd attys and cartos out there now that one can stay with what one has or what one likes ergonomically and still get some good vaping by getting the right ohms for the mod. We needed variables when it was just the regular ohm'd 510, 901, 801 and KR8

 

[Agrion]

The best advice to you is to get a variable voltage mod.

Thanks for the suggestion.

I just checked out some variable voltage mods and the ones I found need a small screw driver to change from one setting to another. If this is the case with all of them I can see myself playing with the settings in the beginning then settling on one setting and leaving it there. I'm not sure the added expense is worth it.

Are all variable voltage mods like this? The models I'm finding were introduced a few months ago so they may be outdated.

Suggestions on models would be appreciated so I can do more research.

Thanks.