$300 budget, I want the best possible vape I can get.
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If you are into rebuilding, the kayfun type is a great vape. If you do not want to rebuild, I just received an Aspire Nautilus and it is BY FAR the best tank with pre-made coils. It is a bit pricey, but I gotta say, It is really good! This is coming from someone who exclusively uses rebuildables and drippers!
As for a device, there are so so many really good devices. One can never go wrong with a Provari, unless you are looking to vape extremely high wattages with maybe a sub-ohm build. I prefer any Nivel Chip mod, tho they are not easy to come by. The Reo also has a great track record. Really depends on what direction you want to take your vape. Good Luck
As for a device, there are so so many really good devices. One can never go wrong with a Provari, unless you are looking to vape extremely high wattages with maybe a sub-ohm build. I prefer any Nivel Chip mod, tho they are not easy to come by. The Reo also has a great track record. Really depends on what direction you want to take your vape. Good Luck
Nah, the REO was designed for attys and cartos long before RBAs existed. I used cartos on my REO for 3 years before I switched to RBAs. As for the squeeze required, I never used the internal bottle. I would top fill my carto(more even fill), vape for an hour nonstop, top off, vape for an hour, etc. The mod is about as versatile as it gets.
Yes definitely get a Provari. If you already have that then maybe look at pieces from House of Hybrids. I think a mod from there is what I'm getting next.
Provari with cartotank setup. Cartotanks produce great flavor without the constant need to refill. Depending on the juice, a carto can last weeks in a tank. That's if you don't plan on rebuilding like myself. If I had the money, I'd have a Provari, but for now I'm very happy with my MVP 2's. Even with a Provari, an MVP will likely remain as my back up. I have a 2 hour commute each way, and something that'll charge my phone is quite handy. I get my tanks from IBTanked and I carry 5 of them filled with different liquid in each and carry them in my purse stored in the Thingy IBTanked ships them in. They stay clean, and leaks are always contained that way, however I've never had a leak with a tank from IBTanked.
got the kayfun/r91%
got the ibtanked ... 9 of them
got genesis type RTAs
got mechs
got RDAs
got BCCs
got BDCs
got smooth voltage output via mvp2
got VV/VW
got provarii (plural) on the way
kayfun/russian 91% cannot use tank cracker juices with a view window. you either refill more often than necessary or rely on burnt hits to tell you when the tank is empty.
genesis can be a pita in the leak department if you ever slip and put it down on it's side.
ibtanked are fantastic and hassle free, but you will get a dead carto from time to time no matter where you buy from.
dripping on a busy schedule or dripping and driving can be a real pita.
BCCs and BDCs just suck. check out the clearo forum for huge threads of people trying to fine tune them to get them to work without issue. not just tuning to preference, but to work without serious issue. if you get one that works without serious issue, it's probably plastic.
mechs work just fine if you're into that kind of thing. i use them as juice testers with my drippers.
mvp2 has it's limits with a 11 watt, 5 volt max.
anything short of an RDA with a small chamber mutes or changes taste. period. cartos are pretty close, as far as that can be. so are some other things. but "pretty close" for me requires twice as much flavor added to my DIY mixes. the flavor from an RDA is just so clean.
straight battery voltage gives the smoothest vape, period. if the voltage drops and you don't like the vape you're getting, it's time to change batteries. you'd have to do it soon on a regulated mod anyway.
cotton is super, super cheap and tastes fantastic and clean.
kanthal is super cheap and a new coil works every time. nothing hit or miss about it. you make it to your preference and enjoy life as you decide.
drip and flick (thermometer method), condom method, fiddling with your thingy, plunger method, doesn't matter. priming and inserting a carto is no easier than building and installing a micro coil with cotton. the coil will likely outlast a carto, too.
you just need the right tools... Micro Coil 101 - Making A Perfect Micro Coil Using The Coil Gizmo By Artistic Wire - YouTube ... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/clearomizers/510520-coils-made-easy.html
building a micro coil is second nature on your first attempt with the right tools.
a provari is nothing without the topper. there is no topper to put on a provari that will give you the rugged reliability, the taste of dripping and the ease of filling and going. more and more so once you start delving into replacement heads and cartos for which there's always going to be a percentage of DOA and/or out of spec units.
a REO grand with an RM2 will give you that easily. that's why my reo is now my all day driver.
though, there's no cutoff for when your battery gets low to prevent damage. that's why the mvp2 and soon to be provari coupled with ibtanked tanks and either ikenvape platinum or boge laser punched cartos are and will be my preferred daily drivers for family and friends.
got the ibtanked ... 9 of them
got genesis type RTAs
got mechs
got RDAs
got BCCs
got BDCs
got smooth voltage output via mvp2
got VV/VW
got provarii (plural) on the way
kayfun/russian 91% cannot use tank cracker juices with a view window. you either refill more often than necessary or rely on burnt hits to tell you when the tank is empty.
genesis can be a pita in the leak department if you ever slip and put it down on it's side.
ibtanked are fantastic and hassle free, but you will get a dead carto from time to time no matter where you buy from.
dripping on a busy schedule or dripping and driving can be a real pita.
BCCs and BDCs just suck. check out the clearo forum for huge threads of people trying to fine tune them to get them to work without issue. not just tuning to preference, but to work without serious issue. if you get one that works without serious issue, it's probably plastic.
mechs work just fine if you're into that kind of thing. i use them as juice testers with my drippers.
mvp2 has it's limits with a 11 watt, 5 volt max.
anything short of an RDA with a small chamber mutes or changes taste. period. cartos are pretty close, as far as that can be. so are some other things. but "pretty close" for me requires twice as much flavor added to my DIY mixes. the flavor from an RDA is just so clean.
straight battery voltage gives the smoothest vape, period. if the voltage drops and you don't like the vape you're getting, it's time to change batteries. you'd have to do it soon on a regulated mod anyway.
cotton is super, super cheap and tastes fantastic and clean.
kanthal is super cheap and a new coil works every time. nothing hit or miss about it. you make it to your preference and enjoy life as you decide.
drip and flick (thermometer method), condom method, fiddling with your thingy, plunger method, doesn't matter. priming and inserting a carto is no easier than building and installing a micro coil with cotton. the coil will likely outlast a carto, too.
you just need the right tools... Micro Coil 101 - Making A Perfect Micro Coil Using The Coil Gizmo By Artistic Wire - YouTube ... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/clearomizers/510520-coils-made-easy.html
building a micro coil is second nature on your first attempt with the right tools.
a provari is nothing without the topper. there is no topper to put on a provari that will give you the rugged reliability, the taste of dripping and the ease of filling and going. more and more so once you start delving into replacement heads and cartos for which there's always going to be a percentage of DOA and/or out of spec units.
a REO grand with an RM2 will give you that easily. that's why my reo is now my all day driver.
though, there's no cutoff for when your battery gets low to prevent damage. that's why the mvp2 and soon to be provari coupled with ibtanked tanks and either ikenvape platinum or boge laser punched cartos are and will be my preferred daily drivers for family and friends.
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Which raises the question: Why does nobody make a bottom feeder with modern regulation in it, like a DNA 20 or 30? Seems like a niche that's being ignored. I'd buy such a thing. Today. Especially if it wasn't quite as ugly as a REO.
While it's hard to argue a Provari and it's track record, I think a Protovaper XPV DNA20D is a real dark horse. I just ordered one and I'm waiting for it.
It has a built in Panasonic 2900 mAh battery, and can push 20 watts. It is hand built in the USA (Hawaii). The company has gotten rave reviews here in ECF. It comes with a 30 day warranty on workmanship and 1 year warranty on materials. The battery can be changed out once it reaches end of life, but is designed to be charged with the built in Micro USB charger. The company will even replace the battery for you for free if you buy it from them. They will also give you instructions to do it on your own, but it's not a as easy as unscrewing a cap and puting in a a new battery.
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It has a built in Panasonic 2900 mAh battery, and can push 20 watts. It is hand built in the USA (Hawaii). The company has gotten rave reviews here in ECF. It comes with a 30 day warranty on workmanship and 1 year warranty on materials. The battery can be changed out once it reaches end of life, but is designed to be charged with the built in Micro USB charger. The company will even replace the battery for you for free if you buy it from them. They will also give you instructions to do it on your own, but it's not a as easy as unscrewing a cap and puting in a a new battery.
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I have mechs and a dna20 regulated box. I have drippers and a russian91 % and a diver. They're all great. What would I spend it on? A semovar? A hanna mini dna30? Nahhh I'd probably get a reo and rm2.
I use my drippers on mechs at home and use the russian on the dna mod when im out and about. Having a rda vapor quality device that is as convenient as a tanked atty is about as much as you can ask for. It's a dripper that you dont have to drip!!!?!?!?!?! You can just put it in your pocket and not worry. Pull it out and just vape!!! It has all the best qualities from everything I have, combined into one device. Dammit I want one! Well its not regulated, but I set my dna to 4.2 volts anyway since I started building coils to suit a mech.
I use my drippers on mechs at home and use the russian on the dna mod when im out and about. Having a rda vapor quality device that is as convenient as a tanked atty is about as much as you can ask for. It's a dripper that you dont have to drip!!!?!?!?!?! You can just put it in your pocket and not worry. Pull it out and just vape!!! It has all the best qualities from everything I have, combined into one device. Dammit I want one! Well its not regulated, but I set my dna to 4.2 volts anyway since I started building coils to suit a mech.
Which raises the question: Why does nobody make a bottom feeder with modern regulation in it, like a DNA 20 or 30? Seems like a niche that's being ignored. I'd buy such a thing. Today. Especially if it wasn't quite as ugly as a REO.
my unicorn. ugh...
i think my black wrinkle and copper vein is quite handsome in person. especially with the brown jade drip tip on it. sophisticated well beyond it's o̶w̶n̶e̶r̶ <EDIT>keeper</EDIT>, that's for sure.
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Uh, please tell us exactly how one sets a DNA to a fixed voltage? Both of mine only allow one to set wattage.
Which raises the question: Why does nobody make a bottom feeder with modern regulation in it, like a DNA 20 or 30? Seems like a niche that's being ignored. I'd buy such a thing. Today. Especially if it wasn't quite as ugly as a REO.
E7 SunBox. It's a DNA20 bottom feeder. DNA30 from March on... have at it.
Thank you! I didn't realize it existed. Based on the images I found, it even has an on-board USB charger, which is also high on my want list. Now all I have to do is figure out where to get one.
I rarely vape over 12 or 13 watts. No need to get a dna 30. The 20 works fine for me. I REALLY like the nivel chip. Its hard to find modders using the Nivel. Its not as accessible as the evolv chips that are easily available here being a US company.
I'm with you on that.
Why? To me it looks like the user interface and display are every bit as clunky as a Provari.
Once you get used to the menu, its not that bad. The chip offers a lot of versatility that goes unmatched. Really a terrific vape too.I'm with you on that.
Why? To me it looks like the user interface and display are every bit as clunky as a Provari.
I am not in anyway downplaying the quality of the other chipsets from evolv or provape, they are all great. Just a matter of personal preference. I actually own all of them, but my daily go to devices are the Nivels.
Thank you! I didn't realize it existed. Based on the images I found, it even has an on-board USB charger, which is also high on my want list. Now all I have to do is figure out where to get one.
No problem. It is a very solid looking device, with mostly all the features any vaper could be asking for covered - minus a tiny size.
- Bottom Feeding (the only bullet proof way to vape IMO)
- 316 SS construction with swappable front and side panels for a customized/changeable look
- DNA30
- USB chargeable, and the batteries are swappable standard 18650.
I'm pretty sure the manufacturer is gonna have a hard time keeping them around when they come back for sale in March with the DNA30 in it. I also don't think your going to see these "flipped" in any classifieds, because the owners are going to be using them. lol
I think the E7 is a fantastic looking device, but it will never be as bullet proof as a mechanical Reo... and who knows how the companies service is, especially outside of Italy. Regardless, it'll probably be fine, and if you get one I'm pretty sure your other devices will collect dust for sure. (You'll get what I mean once you try bottom feeding an RDA... notta tank in the world holds a candle to it)
BTW - I totally disagree with you on the ugly Reo thing. I think they look rather "sophisticated" in person.
Cheers
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No worries there; I'm handy enough with a soldering iron that I can fix a broken wire or even replace the entire DNA board if needed.
I have yet to see one "in the flesh". However, I've gone through all the pics of available devices on REO's website and have never seen one there that I liked enough to order. Perhaps it's garish colors and other odd finishes. Given that I own and really like a Protovapor XPV, I'm not opposed to something that looks like a tool, but then make it plain black anodized please.
Now a dibi, I'm in the queue for one of those, and that's despite the fact that it's a mech, not because. But those are works of art.
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