I have seen some posts that say LR atomizers can't be used on a 510 and I am wondering if this is true? I have seen some people say it's OK and others say not. Can somebody please give me a no BS answer?
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Honestly, they most likely CAN be used on a 510 (I've never tried), but the problem is that's going to shorten the life of both the battery and the atomizer. If you want to use an LR on your 510 and don't mind the risks, I would not go with a 1.5 ohm. Try a 1.8 or 2.0 ohm 306; Avid Vaper has 1.8's and Ikenvape has 2.0's. Again, it's not really a question of "can't" being used, it's a question of the risks involved using them. If you don't want to risk blowing your battery or atomizer, you can always purchase an eGo passthrough for use at home. I know that's not what you were asking, but that's my two cents. It's probably not worth the damage it can do to your 510.
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Yes, and what tybin said is a good point that I forgot to ask. The riva 510 is much bigger than a standard 510, so that makes a big difference.
EDIT: Also, on a small 180mah 510 battery, it's really not going to make any difference in your vaping experience so it's probably not even worth trying and cooking stuff.
EDIT: Also, on a small 180mah 510 battery, it's really not going to make any difference in your vaping experience so it's probably not even worth trying and cooking stuff.
Oh no the risk on a 650 is almost non-existent, to the best of my knowledge. I was talking about the small, standard 180 mAh 510s. I have a ProVari now but before then I had an eGo and used a 1.5 ohm cisco 306 on both of my eGo batteries all the time, including the 650 mAh. So as far as I know you can use a 650 mAh battery with an LR atomizer without damaging either.
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I have some LR's (not 360) but it's pretty most the smae principle as they work on 1.5ohms.
There is no danger of using those attys on the eGo AS LONG AS you don't chain vape to keep the mosfet on the button cool.
The heat produced from a 1.5 atty is greater than a regular atty, so the heat may damage your battery.
Keep in mind that as you notice more heat, means that more power is needed, so using it on 180mAh batts may also damage you batts because you will need to charge them more often.
I have some LR's (not 360) but it's pretty most the smae principle as they work on 1.5ohms.
There is no danger of using those attys on the eGo AS LONG AS you don't chain vape to keep the mosfet on the button cool.
The heat produced from a 1.5 atty is greater than a regular atty, so the heat may damage your battery.
Keep in mind that as you notice more heat, means that more power is needed, so using it on 180mAh batts may also damage you batts because you will need to charge them more often.
The main reason the small batteries get damaged isn't because you are charging them often, it's simply that different sized batteries have a different amount of power they are able to supply per second without damage, the voltage won't tell you, nor will the amperage rating directly. However a higher storage capacity suggests the battery can deliver more power without damanging the cell. This is a common problem in high powered/mod flashlights too.
If you really want to get into it, you'd need to know what cells you are using, then you could probably find them over on candlepower forums, and look for where people have created graphs measuring it.
This is why the mah number isn't perfect, but is a reasonbly good indication that the battery can deliver what you need.
If you really want to get into it, you'd need to know what cells you are using, then you could probably find them over on candlepower forums, and look for where people have created graphs measuring it.
This is why the mah number isn't perfect, but is a reasonbly good indication that the battery can deliver what you need.
There are plenty of arguments both for and against, but here is my experience:
I started out on the 510 with just the standard 510 atty, and it was a good experience. The batteries didn't last that long for me because I was working from home at the time and pretty much just vaped all day long.
A friend of mine was accidentally shipped a 306 lr atty, and tried it on his 510 battery and it was amazing. He immediately called me and I went over and tried it and it was amazing.
I immediately ordered both a 510 lr atty and a 306 lr atty and started using them exclusively, which I did for months until I started working in the field again and graduated to a proper eGo battery (for the extra life).
I still have my 510 batteries and use them from time to time and they still work just fine. They do have to be charged more frequently with lr attys, personally if I am using them I will go through about 4 batteries in a day.
The bottom line is that it will work, but it will heat up more and drain your battery faster, so just be cognizant of those facts and you will be fine.
I started out on the 510 with just the standard 510 atty, and it was a good experience. The batteries didn't last that long for me because I was working from home at the time and pretty much just vaped all day long.
A friend of mine was accidentally shipped a 306 lr atty, and tried it on his 510 battery and it was amazing. He immediately called me and I went over and tried it and it was amazing.
I immediately ordered both a 510 lr atty and a 306 lr atty and started using them exclusively, which I did for months until I started working in the field again and graduated to a proper eGo battery (for the extra life).
I still have my 510 batteries and use them from time to time and they still work just fine. They do have to be charged more frequently with lr attys, personally if I am using them I will go through about 4 batteries in a day.
The bottom line is that it will work, but it will heat up more and drain your battery faster, so just be cognizant of those facts and you will be fine.
- LRs came on the scene shortly after vapefest 2010 in Virginia;
- They were improperly marketed e.g requires high drain batteries of 420mAh or better;
- It should have read with a discharge capacity of 4A or better; and
- It is the mAh that folks are basing their needs on, not the battery's capacity to deliver current, and that is where the problem lies IMO.
What is internal resistance in a battery and where does it come from?
Lithium-ion batteries lose capacity through cell oxidation (cholesterol), a process that occurs naturally during normal battery use and aging. As the battery ages, internal resistance (cholesterol) increases as well. This increase in cholesterol (internal resistance) leads to plaque build up and when sufficient build up occurs. This results in a plugged artery/battery or, a battery that can no longer deliver current sufficiently to meet the workload. Not dissimilar to someone having a heart condition having difficulty going up a flight of stairs.
Does internal resistance decrease the amount of usable energy in a battery?
Yes it does. It reduces the battery's overall charge capacity. Three imaginary sections of a battery consisting of available energy, empty zone and rock content. With use and age, the rock content grows.
I have heard a term stressing a battery. What, if any, effect does stressing a battery have?
The short answer is rapid ageing due the increase build up of cholesterol (or internal resistance), in this particular case caused by excessive work demands. These excessive work demands increase the creation of internal resistance (cholesterol) exponentially, leading to an increased plaque build up (the rock zone).
Is stressing a battery dangerous?
Yes, emphatically so.
What could be the results of a stressed/over-stressed battery?
In milder cases, the build up of plaque results in a plugged artery and possible heart failure, or in our case the battery will no longer hold a charge or deliver current.
In severe cases clogged arteries can lead to aneurisms and death. In our application, should the protection circuit fail, and we have a stressed battery, which translates to an over-current condition, the battery may vent or even explode.
As stated in the FAQ, these are my interpretations of Basic to Advanced Battery Information from Battery University
I've tried an LR306 on an ego and my batt got very hot and died in about an hour. I don't use it anymore because I don't want to risk ruining my batt
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