5 Liter VG with 12% Nico - question

[EgoLife]

Hey everyone I am still very new to all this and I guess I'm restricted to the new member section for now.

Ok, so I want to start making my own liquids and making them awesome! I found a site where they sell the VG already mixed with the nicotine. I was a little concerned at first since every video and post I see that people use pure nicotine is harmful so I'm hoping that this case it's already mixed I don't have to worry so much.

This is my real hiccup I guess you can call it I am trying to figure out how to use the DIY calculator the first area where it asks "Base nicotine density" I had initially thought it was 12% (yea I know noob) but on their site it pretty much tells you how to determine nico density on this statement

""The nicotine density listed for e-liquid is the number of milligrams of nicotine per milliliter in the e-liquid. That means a 10ml bottle of 24mg nicotine e-liquid would have 240mg of nicotine in it (24mg x 10ml). Likewise, a 30ml bottle of 24mg e-liquid would have 720mg of nicotine in it (24mg x 30ml)""

so based on my calculations if nicotine is based on milligrams per milliliter then I multiplied 12mg x 5000ml (5 liters) which comes out to 60,000. Is this right?? Seems so darn high the number and I can't for the life of me google a close answer, just trying to check if I'm calculating right.


Thank you very much for your expertise and feedback, have a good day everyone.

 

[Zipslack]

What it's asking for is the nic concentration, not the total quantity of nic. If you buy 1.2% or 12mg nic, then you would enter 1.2 or 12 for the "density" or concentration or strength (depending on whether it asks for % or mg). Likewise, you enter the concentration that you desire for the final product after being diluted with VG/PG.

As far as "pure", that's a little confusing. Technically, it may be 99.x% pure nicotine diluted in VG or PG. the concentration is what you worry about - 100mg concentration is very dangerous to handle. I would suggest starting with smaller quantities of lower strength stuff: 36 - 60mg until you get the hang of handling and mixing. You could also just buy the strength you need and then add flavorings without the need to dilute.

 

[BlueMoods]

No you are confusing how it works. Yes it's MG per ML, so what you are doing is how much nicotine is in the whole bottle. we use mg per ,ml to calculate juice strength.

Percent ins the one you need to convert to mg/ml. 12% is high that would be 120mg/ml For beginning you don't need to be messing with that stuff - see the sticky in the DIY e liquid section about 100mg nicotine. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/234886-d-n-g-e-r-100mg-nicotine-liquid.html

Start with something that is close to twice what you vape, if you vape 18mg, then you want to get 36mg or 3.6% nicotine. Then you can dilute it by half with PG,VG flavor and, sweetener combined to create your flavors and, make it 18mg and, you won't have to worry about it being as dangerous as high density nicotine liquid.

 

[EgoLife]

Ok so if it is just 12% it's not that high....... It's medium isn't it? My good friend who got me into vaping smokes 12% nicotine favors all the time. The biggest thing for me was that calculation I was like what?!? :-/ but the only options before 12 are 0 & 6%.

Since it asks base it's kinda hard for me to still understand I mean if I had a separate nicotine (pure) yea I'd get something relatively low that's most of the videos I have seen where they use glycerin from Walmart and nicotine pure from a online vendor. To me this looks doable but the fact that this 5 liter is already mixed with nicotine I thought would be sooooo much quicker and effective IMO idk am I wrong here?

BTW when I say 12 I'm meaning 12mg = 1.2% or less 6mg = 0.6 etc...

 

[Renolizzie]

For gosh sakes go to the DIY section and read the stickies. You could get hurt.

12% is 120mg liquid. The word pure should not be used in this situation.

Twelve percent is very high!!!!!!

Again...use gloves, wash this stuff off if you get any on you. Go to the DIY section and read the stickies before opening the bottle.

You are scaring me because you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

 

[r77r7r]

Egolife- could you post a link to the product that you've bought??

 

[DancingHeretik]

You cannot purchase pure nicotine. All nicotine is sold already cut by PG, VG, or a mix of both. Can you provide a link for what you're talking about buying?

Is it 12% nicotine? Or, is it 12 mg/ml nicotine? Nicotine is normally sold by mg/ml concentration, not by percentage.

12% is 120 mg/ml, which is not safe to work with.

 

[BlueMoods]

Slow down, stop confusing percentages and mg/ml - they are very different measurements. 12% is NOT safe to work with but 12 mg/ml is safe. As others have asked, please link the product you purchased.

 

[EgoLife]

Yea guys sorry to freak you out, I tried adding it to the end there saying it was 12mg = 1.2% but I guess still confusing my bad.

Here is the link again the other one didn't work for some reason http://old............/shopping/products/20-E-Liquid-Bases/

So yea maybe that clears things up a lil more.

 

[BlueMoods]

Okay 12 mg is fine, now what mg do you usually vape?

 

[EgoLife]

What the ??? It's not working with the link ugh try again "old.e-cig dot com ~ they are updating their site so that may be a reason but it is still accessible.

 

[DancingHeretik]

ECF is probably changing the link. I guess it's not an approved vendor. What is the name of the website? Right it out with spaces between the parts so it doesn't get changed by ECF.



ETA: BTW, you have enough posts to go over to the DIY section and ask questions now. Although you may have to wait 20 minutes or so for it to go into effect.

 

[EgoLife]

It's under products if it directs you to the new site it's still under e liquid but the only one the new site has is a 9 liter but still the same product I'm looking at just I'm going after the 5 liter.

And yea I smoke 12mg or no nicotine, in truth I don't really care about the nicotine for myself it's just enjoyable I used to smoke and I hate cigarettes so these are good for me to.

 

[Renolizzie]

So glad to hear from you. Okay, you can definitely go to the DIY section in a few minutes. 1.2% is really easy to work with. There are some nice companies available. You know 5 liters is a lot, right?

 

[EgoLife]

Lol yep I do but I'm gonna be the noob here and ask a bunch of questions to make sure I get this down to the T so I can make some good liquids. Got a lot of people vaping and stuff and want to be able to sell some off once I get good enough obviously. I have checked out online videos and know a chemist that does it but he's not around at the moment so I'm stuck asking questions and fining out on my own for right now. But I vow I will make some damn good vapor liquids

 

[DancingHeretik]

Have you already bought this? It might be a good idea to ask some questions in the DIY section before you commit to 5 liters. You may want to buy a different strength or buy in a different base once you're more sure of exactly what you want to do with it.

 

[EgoLife]

Nah haven't bought it yet but I have been reading about the Pg vs VG. Also seeing what people are saying about both of course and since 1.2% is a medium standard I figured it may be the best option to use for most people. I am kinda thinking now I could get the 1 liter in 0.6 and another one in 1.2% and even 0% instead of all being just one number...... Yea I think that may be better than getting a huge 5 liter of the same

Oh and im leaning more towards VG I know everyone has their preference but from what I've been seeing seems like the better base. Gonna do some more reading

 

[DancingHeretik]

What liquids do you actually vape? What PG/VG ratio have you been using so far?

 

[chaos-7]

You cannot purchase pure nicotine. All nicotine is sold already cut by PG, VG, or a mix of both. Can you provide a link for what you're talking about buying?

Is it 12% nicotine? Or, is it 12 mg/ml nicotine? Nicotine is normally sold by mg/ml concentration, not by percentage.

12% is 120 mg/ml, which is not safe to work with.

You would be amazed at what You can get from china.

 

[r77r7r]

OP- there are great places to buy nic from on here, these are Trusted places. They're very inexpensive. There are places out there that sell very nasty tasting nic that will make your mixes taste very bad.

There are also places that have low QC and not have the nic level at the stated level. There are testing kits available here that will tell you if your nic is the proper strength.

Often it's good to buy an unknown product in Small quantities until you know that's its quality.