5+ Months of 510 atty cleaning...

[SuZamme]

Wow!!!! It worked great. I now have 3 attys that were once really sic, tasted funny, and are now giving me super vape.

I never thought I would be using Polident 3-Minute but it sure does work. Next someone will probably be recommending PoliGrip for mod repairs.

I was wondering if your "leave it in for the day" was 8, 12 or 24 hours?

vape On!!!!!!!!

 

[Shortstuff116]

What I normally do is perform the Polident tablet at night before bed and leave it until the next night, but I don't think that leaving it in more than a few hours is really necessary as long as you swirl it around often.

I'm glad it's working well for others!

 

[garyd]

Tried the polident cleaning method on 2 attys the other day, one was dead and the other was ok just needed a cleaning. After 24 hours I took them out and rinsed out in hot distilled water. They came out looking great. I tried the dead atty out and it was still dead, a LR 510, it went dead after 1 week. The other atty works fine and better than ever. I took apart the LR atty so I could inspect the coil, well it was gunked with black burned up juice, so it comes back to how to clean the coil, the polident didn't clean the coil. I'll be trying some other methods to see if I can remove the burnt gunk from the coil now that I have it exposed. The rest of the atty was clean as a whistle so this is a good cleaning method except for the burnt gunk on the coil.

 

[SuZamme]

well it was gunked with black burned up juice, so it comes back to how to clean the coil, the polident didn't clean the coil. I'll be trying some other methods to see if I can remove the burnt gunk from the coil now that I have it exposed. The rest of the atty was clean as a whistle so this is a good cleaning method except for the burnt gunk on the coil.

Please post back with what you try for the burnt gunk.

Oven cleaner is designed to remove burnt gunk and still requires some scrubbing but who wants to vape it.

Perhaps using something like that to remove the burnt and then the polident to remove the oven cleaner.

Someone mentioned somewhere on this forum about a substance that is used in commercial kitchens to clean grills. I looked but couldn't find the post.

Good luck. How did the burnt get on your atty to start with? Too hot an atty with too little juice? Wrong kind of juice?

 

[g123456e]

Tried the polident cleaning method on 2 attys the other day, one was dead and the other was ok just needed a cleaning. After 24 hours I took them out and rinsed out in hot distilled water. They came out looking great. I tried the dead atty out and it was still dead, a LR 510, it went dead after 1 week. The other atty works fine and better than ever. I took apart the LR atty so I could inspect the coil, well it was gunked with black burned up juice, so it comes back to how to clean the coil, the polident didn't clean the coil. I'll be trying some other methods to see if I can remove the burnt gunk from the coil now that I have it exposed. The rest of the atty was clean as a whistle so this is a good cleaning method except for the burnt gunk on the coil.

Doesn't the dry burn clean the coil? I saw a video on You Tube by Damulta where he did an extreme dry burn on his 510 low resistance atty which he says cleans it. I haven't tried it but if your atty's dead anyway, might be worth a try...

 

[garyd]

Please post back with what you try for the burnt gunk.

Oven cleaner is designed to remove burnt gunk and still requires some scrubbing but who wants to vape it.

Perhaps using something like that to remove the burnt and then the polident to remove the oven cleaner.

Someone mentioned somewhere on this forum about a substance that is used in commercial kitchens to clean grills. I looked but couldn't find the post.

Good luck. How did the burnt get on your atty to start with? Too hot an atty with too little juice? Wrong kind of juice?

Hi all, well this atty was stone cold dead so a dry burn was not possible. I did try Easy Off (fume free) oven cleaner on this atty as my first experiment. Soaked for 1 hour and rinsed, amazingly 95% of the burned on crud was gone. Now this stuff is toxic so I am not recommending this to anyone. I wish I had taken pictures of the before and after because it was amazing! I might try this method with a quick soak in hot water, then the oven cleaner for 1-2 hour soak, then the polident for 24 hours, and finally more than a few rinses in boiling distilled water. I am taking no responsibility for anyone that wants to try this as it could be hazardous but I will tell you this does remove the burnt gunk from the coil. Seeing is believing. Once again try at your own risk! I figure I was inhaling lots of chemicals for 35 plus years from analogs so I'll take my chances once again.

 

[rusty shackleford]

Just a reminder, these atty coils are brittle, if your too rough with them, they break. Sometimes they break and your not sure why they don't work after you "clean" them. I would stay away from oven cleaner. Depending on your juice content, you should get 4-5 weeks from an atty. It's not a bad idea to move on and use a fresh atty to cut down on any bacteria buildup that might be occurring...

 

[sjohnson]

8+ months on my original Joye atomizers here, used by me and my two sons. I only have one, of about twenty 510 atomizers (various makes including "disposables"), that doesn't make great vapor. It was dead (infinite ohms) less than a week from delivery. I do still have 5 or 6 unopened atomizers - due to the many posts about short atomizer life I bought a bunch, needlessly as it turned out.

PG is a bactericide, PGA also. No worries about bacteria in an atomizer IMHO. Cartridges, though, get a regular alcohol, then peroxide soak after mechanical cleaning. I DIY my e-liquids, so perhaps there's something about DIY that promotes long atomizer life?

 

[rusty shackleford]

I DIY my e-liquids, so perhaps there's something about DIY that promotes long atomizer life?

I have a feeling using vodka at about a 20% ratio in my juice promotes a leaner, cleaner burn, but thats just me...I have no real proof.

 

[Loco]

I got the multipack TW 510's and they are not doing so great for me, I will try this method and let you know how well it works for me.

Yes, the multipacks are hit and miss, I've had the same experience.

2 died on me within 15 min of vaping on them. One underperformed, even with 5v. Two work OK at 5v.

I tested the two I'm using and found their resistance to be at 3 ohms. They underperform severely with stock 3.7v 510 batteries.

Standard 510 atties, so I've read, are around 2.2-2.4 ohms.

So not only was I sold 2 DOA atties, there was no indication on the web posting that these "Titan 510" atties needed a higher-than-stock voltage source to perform.

Misleading labeling and shipping dead products. No warranty or returns. Epic FAIL by TW.

 

[Shortstuff116]

I've been vaping my Joye 510 for 6 months now. I just took inventory of all the attys I've ever gotten and the total is 11. One of them was DOA, the white plastic disk inside had no hole in the center so it was completely blocked. One I took the bridge and wick out of to try direct dripping with, which works just fine for dripping only. 6 attys I still use in rotation and I still have 3 new ones in wrappers.

Two of the ones I use in rotation are the original attys that came with my 510 6 months ago. Proper maintenance really works. sjohnson who posted here earlier is the one who taught me the proper dry-burn method and that is what really keeps my attys in such good shape after a good cleaning.

 

[rusty shackleford]

"use in rotation" ..amazing what we have learned, they last a long ime when you give 'em a little rest everyso often. When I say rotation, I mean I had four that were being used all day and night, cooling and reloading, constantly it seemed...the 801 atty fades out when you get it real hot, it won't vape again until it cools down....

 

[Shortstuff116]

"use in rotation" ..amazing what we have learned, they last a long ime when you give 'em a little rest everyso often. When I say rotation, I mean I had four that were being used all day and night, cooling and reloading, constantly it seemed...the 801 atty fades out when you get it real hot, it won't vape again until it cools down....

You're right. 2 things I always keep in mind while vaping is that one; the atty should be allowed time to cool down between vapes so I usually take a vape or two and wait at least one minute before I vape again. Two, it takes a little time for the e-juice to resaturate the atty well enough for a good vape to give it a chance to wick the juice.

My rotation technique is that I will use one atty for several days and then I'll pop on a new (clean) one. Experience tells you when it's time for a cleaning so that's when I grab a clean one and drop the used one in a cup for cleaning (with a couple others) once I've gotten a few in there. All my juices are tobacco flavored so there's no need for me to change an atty when I change flavor, from Marlb to Kamel (for example).

One other trick that seems to work well for me is to give my PV a quick/short hard suck before I press the button. What I've found that this has done for me is keep any excess juice from working it's way down to the battery connector. I can pull my atty off any time and see no juice between it and the connector which is always a good thing (no flooding). I also noticed that by doing this quick suck that my carts tend to go an extra vape or two/three between refilling. Maybe it creates just a tiny vacuum (low pressure area) that tends to 'pull' just a little more juice down out of the cart directly onto the atty bridge. Also, I honestly think that this also helps keep those tiny air holes in my atty cleaner for a longer period of time.

We all have our little tricks that for me anyway makes the vaping experience so much better.

 

[mcl5000]

Wow, this seems like a lot of effort. I've killed maybe 5 or 6 or 7 attys in the whole time I've been vaping (and it's been 95% 510 usage), and I hardly do any of this.

I rinse and blow out the atty only when changing flavors. I dry burn every couple weeks when I notice a drop off in flavor or vapor. That's it. I feel bad for people that have bad enough luck to have to go to this much effort.

 

[sjohnson]

Whatever works for YOU is what counts. I haven't had bad luck, I want my atomizer to vaporize and taste great. After several days, in my experience only, an atomizer starts to taste a bit off. After a longer period, the amount of vapor drops off, though I rarely go that long because of the off taste.

Thorough cleaning brings it back to what I consider a clean taste and great vapor production. I spend maybe 5 minutes total personal time cleaning an atomizer. At $5/atomizer, that's like making $60 an hour. Nice pocket change, and I haven't killed an atomizer in over 8 months since I started!

 

[Shortstuff116]

Wow, this seems like a lot of effort. I've killed maybe 5 or 6 or 7 attys in the whole time I've been vaping (and it's been 95% 510 usage), and I hardly do any of this.

I rinse and blow out the atty only when changing flavors. I dry burn every couple weeks when I notice a drop off in flavor or vapor. That's it. I feel bad for people that have bad enough luck to have to go to this much effort.

I do understand what you're saying but for me anyway this is not a lot of effort at all. I've got 5 cleaned attys sitting in a small plastic bag. Every 3-6 days when I feel it's time I'll blow out my current atty and toss it in a plastic drinking cup. I put on one of my cleaned attys, prime it and it's good for another 3-6 days. Once I've got 3 attys in my plastic cup, I simply fill it about 1" of hot tap water, toss in a polident tablet and walk away. I'll give it a swirl every now and then but other than that I just let it sit overnight. The next day I'll spend no more than 10 minutes to rinse them out, blow them out and set them aside. The next day I'll grab those 3 and give them a dry burn treatment which takes no more than 10 minutes. Total time spent per atty, about 7 minutes.

It's not that I have any bad luck. It's just simple maintenance that I choose to do with my attys to keep them clean and operating at their best. It would take me 15 minutes, gas and use of my vehicle just to purchase a pack of smokes in comparison. Not to mention the money I'm saving by vaping in the first place.

I'm glad that a simple blowout and burn works for you and keeps your attys working which probably would be just fine for me too, but again I just choose to take the time to do the maintenance and I'm content. Maybe it's just old habit for me, but my dad always told me that "If you take care of it, it will take care of you."

 

[DiscoStu]

I've got three atty's in my rig case loaded on carts that are rarely ever used,(i drip), one atty with the wick removed and my favorite atty i call "Gary". "Gary" has the coil, wick and bridge removed with a bare coil exposed, I use him along with a drip tip for 99% of the time. I've also got 4-5 brand new atty's up in the cabinet, just for backups, ( with a mega atty otw from far off exotic lands for my Chuck). When I clean, I use the crest pro health and a sonic cleaner, run it on a cycle and let them sit overnight in the crest ph. Next morning there are definitly "chunks" of carbon floating around. I rinse them with reg tap water the next morning, let them sit for 24 hrs and then do a dry burn, rinse again, another dry burn and i'm back to vaping. My experience with the "burnt" taste on my new atties is very consistent and expected now, the only place I order my atties from is cignot, and they all have an intolerable burned taste when i pop em open and blow them out(primer), or have a distinct "tobacco" flavor for an hour or two. I think cignots supplier lightly primes with some type of marlboro juice during the manufacture. I'm gonna pick up some polident tonight after work and give one "dead atty" a go around with it that my cleaning method refuses to cure. btw, i reprime with vodka and in my morning "refill" i throw in a drop of vodka with my juice into the bottles, ( i use tv exclusively). I'll find this thread and post results sunday!

 

[DaliMama]

I haven't tried the polident method and so far I have been fortunate that dry burning works for me...has anyone tried to use vinegar and baking soda or is this a horrible idea? just wondering because as we have all seen from elementary school science fairs, combining vinegar and baking soda sure creates some effervescent bubblage!

 

[attymiser]

MCl5000 makes a good point. This method is working because you are rinsing and dry burning. That is all you need to do. If you do it on a regular basis you will not allow the coil to gunk up so bad it's almost impossible to clean.

Don't bother with polident or chemicals. It's not necessary and not worth the risk. All that's needed is HOT water soak, a good drying method and a good dry burn using short 3 second burns and letting it cool completely until you do it again (this prevents the coil from burning out and the plastic disc from melting which causes a hard draw). Do this until you see the coil glow and you are back in business.

How do I know this? I do it twice a week on all of my attys. I have attys that are over 6 months old, and, in fact, they work better than some of the brand new attys I have.

If you have not tried this or have not dry burned for an extended period it may take several burns to get it to glow again. The trick is not letting the atty get too hot in the process.

Rushing water can cause damage to the wick. Just soak in hot water, blow out the atty after 5 minutes or so, soak again in hot water, blow out water and then shake out any additional water, dry the atty (I use a hair dryer), then make it glow.

 

[greenie]

really good tips all around!