510-510 Adapter Problems - Help Wasting Money On A Regulkar Basis!

[Bugsy]

I'm in a tizzy and losing money on a regular basis as when I try to order spare 510-510 adapters I keep on getting the wrong ones . I use a bog standard Lavatube with Boge 510 cartomizers and an Arry ACTV3/4 tank. I need the adapters or I can't use the tank. The adapters which works seems to be described as, from my past order history at Moju Republic, ACTV4 510-510 adapters but they have been discontinued when I try to order them again from Moju. I ordered some 510-510 adapters from vape Escape and unfortunately they don't work, with or without the little ring. This 510-510 adapter is everywhere but my 510-510 adapter is nowhere . The unsuitable but prolific 510-510 adapter has a flathead pin inside the adapter casing and just does not make contact with the cartomizer positive terminal, whilst my ACTV4 510-510 has a rounded pin which makes good contact. I have got around this problem in the past by removing the pin from unsuitable adapters purchased ( even though they are 510-510 adapters! ) and getting a small roundheaded screw, insulate it and pop it in the adapter casing but this is fiddly and not totally effective and I'm getting a bit frustrated with doing this. I would presume that there MUST be other vapers out there who have the same problem/vaping configuration but where do they get their lovely, suitable adapters from?! I've tried the screw-in/screw-out 510-510 adapters and they don't work either . Surely I shouldn't have to keep on modding such a simple piece of kit to continue vaping? Have the ACTV3/ACTV4 510-510 adapters been discontinued, as I can't seem to find them anywhere?

I'm having a similar problem with Arry ACTV3?4 tank but that is in a seperate post! It is so frustrating when after a while of satisfactory vaping one goes back to the marketplace and everything has disappeared or changed.

Hoping someone can help and direct me to these elusive adapters!

Thanks in advance,

Greg.

 

[Eileithia]

Just about every adaptor that I've used which have a slot for a flat-head screwdriver are adjustable. They take a bit of mucking around to get the center post the right length, but you simply give it a turn, reconnect, check if it's firing, if not, disconnect and repeat.

 

[crxess]

bog standard Lavatube

Give me a link to what ever this is

All 510/510 are the same basic design. Only difference is with hole in center or solid.

Sounds like you had an adapter from (X) to 510

ALL of my Boge 510 cartomizers will fire of a standard 510/510 flat pin adapter

 

[Bugsy]

Hi Eilethia, thanks for the help! I've tried your suggestion but the pin, whilst it has the screwdriver slot you mention, is just held in place by a small rubber, insulating grommet with no way of adjusting it up and down. Eventually, whilst trying to adjust the pin, both the pin and grommet just fell out. I'll go back and give it another go!

 

[crxess]

Hi Eilethia, thanks for the help! I've tried your suggestion but the pin, whilst it has the screwdriver slot you mention, is just held in place by a small rubber, insulating grommet with no way of adjusting it up and down. Eventually, whilst trying to adjust the pin, both the pin and grommet just fell out. I'll go back and give it another go!

That is NOT a screwdriver slot. It is an AIR slot to allow open bottom atomizers to draw air through.

 

[Bugsy]

Ahh, yes makes sense, thanks crxess! I've tried again but no joy. It's just so blooming odd. The only thing I can think of at the moment is that the ACTV3 tank I'm using does't allow enough of the carto sticking out to make contact with the pin head in the flathead adapter. I somewhat puzzled as to what to with all these new adapters. I'll end up modding them again if the worst comes to the worst. Thanks.

 

[Bugsy]

Oo, here's the link to the Lavatube I described as bog standard! I think I meant to say the original Lavatube, which I am deeply enamoured by! They're on sale too - just bought two!

Lavatube Variable Voltage Mod - Moju Republic

 

[crxess]

Okay, I looked the ACV up for you and see the problem.
This is a carto Tank. Normally a Carto screws into the Battery or adapter.

Your Boge screws into the Base of the Tank.
The TANK has another 510 Thread to attach to a device/adapter

The problem is the Center pin of the BASE is being pushed up and Not contacting any adapters. If weak, this can happen repeatedly through use when attaching to different devices.

A simple solution is to keep a paper clip handy.
Straighten the outer leg to point away from the clip loops.
Make a tiny 90* bend on the end.
Insert the bend into the center pin of the TANK and gently wiggle it down Slightly, less than 1mm I'd guess.
Now the Tank should attach and Fire properly.

Each time you attach to a device with a taller center pin it will be compressed again and may need to be pulled back down for the other device.

Keep the paper clip handy!

ETA - *** you may not need the Adapters now***

 

[Bugsy]

Hi again! Thanks for the help! The ACTV3 or ACTV4 carto-tanks ( thanks for their proper name! ) have no extra 510 threads ( there is just a hole in their base to push the Boge carto through ). It is the actual Boge carto 510 thread which then either attaches to the adapter or device ( the adapter is needed to use this setup as the tank with carto cannot directly attach to the Lavatube ). So there isn't anything I can really prod or poke apart from the pin in the adapter ( bedamn the little non-working critter ). Can I prod the Boge carto instead? They don't look adjustable or pokable!

 

[crxess]

Well now I'm concerned with what you have. Also why the lavatube will not accept the tank.

Research shows this a the ACTV3 Tank


ACTV4 - Now we are getting some where.


Are any of your adapters like this:


This adapter Can be used with minor modification.
Top needs to be filed/ground down a bit.
Measure Carto length sticking through V4 and match height to adapter down to center pin.
Hold the adapter with an old 510 type battery/etc for stability and to keep fingers safely away during work.

The problem is the O-ring and metal Base subtract from contact depth. Boge 510 becomes to short.
Also the only reason the Lava tube cannot work is the Lip around the base of the V4 - designed for a slant top mod.

Your original adapter must not be available separately. Even your Vender has the wrong part linked.

 

[Bugsy]

This is great stuff, thanks! I'll follow up all the research/suggestions you sent and get back soon. Thanks so much for helping

Greg.

 

[Bugsy]

Lol, with enthusiasm I threw myself into the tasks ahead! I grinded down the top of one of the blasted new 510-510 adapters, with the flathead inner pins, to see if it was a carto-to-adapter-connection-depth-issue. I tried out the modded adapter and no luck still, argh! Hm, I thought, I think I’ll grind down fully the lip on the bottom my Arry ACTV4 tank to make it flush and therefore do away with the need for an adapter altogether. It was not a pretty site after my grinding ( not being adept at such in-depth engineering tasking! ). Nevertheless I had very high hopes that this would do the trick and aesthetically I could easily live with the gap that was produced between the tank and Lavatube. I directly attached the the ACTV4 tank with just the Boge 510 carto threads potruding through the tank’s now flush bottom ( sounds rude, lol ). No luck, argh again! I then retried a brand new one of those blasted 510-510 adapters on the end of the Boge carto and reconnected it all to the Lavatube. Argh, blast, no luck again! Finally I put back onto the end of the Boge carto one of my precious few old-style 510-510 roundheaded adapters - which don’t seem to be unavailable anymore : ( - and everything kicked off fine again. Drat back to square one again.

I now have a different theory after all this as to what is the problem. The new 510-510 adapters with the inner flathead pins, which I have been much maligning, have huge flatheads! This I think is the problem as I think both the inner positive and outer negative terminals of the Boge carto both rest on the big flathead pins of the new 510-510 adapters, and thus nothing can fire up. The nicely rounded potruding pins of the old-style 510-510 adapters just neatly connect with the positive terminal of the Boge carto and thus everything is fine.

Here are some pictures :

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums...4WithSkirtGroundOffBogeCartoThreadShowing.jpg

After grinding the lip of the bottom of the ACTV4 ( omigod! ) – two pictures. The Boge 510 carto is potruding out of the bottom of the tank.

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii604/pooka39/Spoon/ACTV4WithSkirtGroundOff.jpg

Below, notice the big inner flathead pin in the 510-510 adapter which doesn’t work and how small, neat and potruding the pin is with my old-style 510-510 adapter – I have only a few left : ( .

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii604/pooka39/Spoon/AdaptersSideBySide.jpg


HELP!
Can anyone direct me as to where I can get more ACTV4 tanks and maybe, now that there’s a picture of the 510-510 adapter I need, getting them also? All my vaping is built around the Lavatube, Seigelei , Boge cartos and the roundheaded 510-510 adapter ( shown ) and I’m panicking if I run out spares!

 

[crxess]

I now have a different theory after all this as to what is the problem. The new 510-510 adapters with the inner flat head pins, which I have been much maligning, have huge flatheads! This I think is the problem as I think both the inner positive and outer negative terminals of the Boge carto both rest on the big flathead pins of the new 510-510 adapters, and thus nothing can fire up. The nicely rounded protruding pins of the old-style 510-510 adapters just neatly connect with the positive terminal of the Boge carto and thus everything is fine.

I would agree with this, but ONLY if you are over tightening the Carto to the adapter.
Looking at the Carto 510 connection from the side(new carto) you will see the center pin extends lower than the thread section.
The only way to have both make contact is to over tighten, pushing the pin UP into the Carto until flush.
Take your freshly ground down Tank, with Carto with pin Below threads(pull as discussed earlier if needed) and gently screw onto Ground adapter until you feel resistance. STOP, that is center pin making contact. attach and Fire the lava tube to confirm.
Probably had the same issue when grinding the adapters.

May not have noticed but almost All 510 devices have a flat pin connection and many are a bit large. Boges do work in all of them. Only Cartomizers I use are Boges.

Read a few complaints on the Original V4 adapter that indicate they can short out. Please continue to use care with any adapter you use.

Ground Off Jpeg(pic) Adapter type on left okay. On right Sealed and not good if ground down. Would loose air flow.

Why no basic DCT tanks? acidic juices?

and - My apologies, as a 40 year mechanic, things some times seem simple to me that others may not have knowledge of.

Hope you get this sorted

ETA - without an adapter the tank cannot work due to lost 510 depth through the tank base.

 

[Bugsy]

Hi,

Thanks for the reply. I've nearly always used Dekang juice from China, as I find it okay and the cheapest!

Re not using DCT tanks, early on when I started vaping I had a a negative experience when using a plastic mouthpiece ( the juice I used reacted with the plastic causing a horrible taste ) and since then I don't feel comfortable vaping except when using inert materials, hence my preoccupation with trying to find an all-steel tank ( or even an all-glass tank ). Can you recommend any which I could get easily in the UK? I've now looking at the Sidewinder and pyrex tanks from Valley Vapes in the USA but I wasn't sure if they accepted orders from overseas. I was specially interested in the Sidewinder but I got the impression my standard 510 Boges wouldn't fit this tank.

Thanks again for any suggestions

Greg.

 

[crxess]

No luck with Valley - US Canada only

However, these are all Pyrex and should accept Boge XL'cartos - All major brand carto's spec similar
Found 7 pyrex DCT at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Lot of good reviews on the forums for FT, and some not so. I have used and am happy with their service.

 

[Bugsy]

Cheers for that. I've also found a good site called IBTanked, so I'll probably sort out my new tank soon. Maybe with the new type of tank the adapter connecttion issues could sort themselves out. If not I'll keep on at it and keep the forum posted if I do.

Thanks for all the input