510 Cartomizer Recycling
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Yeah, I get that, but I'm still managing to make the BOGE 510 battery/Cartomizer/Liquid system come in less expensively than a $40 per week analog habit.
I'm actually thinking about using multiple instances of these guys for charging:
http://www.ecigexpress.com/joye-510-joye-510-batteries-and-charging-devices-c-63_65/joye-510-multi-charger-charges-10-joye-510-batteries-p-665
I have experienced variable quality in the BOGE batteries and cartomziers, but most typically seem to do the job of their expected lifespan.
As far as burn taste goes, as long as you keep a supply of "do it yourself" filled cartos or keep refilling them, they work pretty well. I've run into one or two quality issues with cartos, and initially.
I've actually RMA'd individual cartos back to the vendor, and conveyed my disappointment via email. And got purchasing credits for the bum stuff.
I use mine for experiments :/ I might add that this may not be the safest thing to do.
I just find it very strange and too coincidental that BOTH major carto makers are having the same issue at the same time. I think they weren't happy about the longevity of these cartos and expected us to be using 1 a day IMO.
WOW looks for a nuke sub ready for action.
The vendors are equally ticked off with this new line of cartos. Just seems to be hit and miss and that's why I switched to clearos/ Vivi Nova. I waiting for my vendor to receive some Genesis DiD Clone (Rebuildable) will sell for $17- original Genisis sells for $80...rebuildable over and over again- no more silica wicks or carto stuffing.
Here's a tutorial and review:
I haven't had a lot of luck with boiling and then using the syringe..... I probably did not use the syringe enough times, nor did I bake them. I just let them dry on their own after I blew them out. I found that the filler wasn't as absorbent and also there was a bit of flavor left over. I suppose it would work better if I put the same flavor back into them.
What I find works best for the cartos in my tanks is taking a paper clip and cleaning out the air hole. It does get really gunked up and a lot of black burned stuff comes out. Just wipe it on a paper towel and repeat until relatively clean. The only problem is that I have ruined two cartos so far using this method. I think my paper clip must have gotten to the coil! Both times I was in a hurry.... When my carto gets old, I just turn up the voltage and it works better for a while. Unfortunately, I have gotten some not so great cartos lately. I tried a few different brands, but they do not seem to be nearly as good as the boge's I bought back in March or April..... d'oh! I do still have most of them, but they have been boiled. Time to revisit and see what happens! I just got in some nice samples with a strong flavor that just might work out well for me!
What I find works best for the cartos in my tanks is taking a paper clip and cleaning out the air hole. It does get really gunked up and a lot of black burned stuff comes out. Just wipe it on a paper towel and repeat until relatively clean. The only problem is that I have ruined two cartos so far using this method. I think my paper clip must have gotten to the coil! Both times I was in a hurry.... When my carto gets old, I just turn up the voltage and it works better for a while. Unfortunately, I have gotten some not so great cartos lately. I tried a few different brands, but they do not seem to be nearly as good as the boge's I bought back in March or April..... d'oh! I do still have most of them, but they have been boiled. Time to revisit and see what happens! I just got in some nice samples with a strong flavor that just might work out well for me!
what brand of cartomizer can see that much action and still be good? Link to e-commerce portal, please?
A 7 Month Old Carto working like it was Brand New.
Sure, Whatever you say.
Dunno?
Maybe you have to Drink the Kool-Aid before you use it?
Or maybe it works better to Drink the Kool-Aid before reading Some people’s Posts?
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I've seriously considered using the syringes to do the refill (although right now I'm just dripping into the carto and letting it absorb). Worse comes to worse, just fill two or three cartos at once, use one and have one "on deck" that way you're never panicking.
I looked at the syringes in the first few months I was really trying to re-use the cartos as long as I could. My conclusion was that, if you want to use a syringe, the syringe you really need is a 28-30 gauge needle, instead of the 18 gauges sold on most e-cig sites. A 30 gauge needle is so thin it would fit into the edge of the carto, or possibly even be able to pierce the absorbency stuff without "bending" it and breaking the element.
30 gauge blunt tip needle/syringes are typically sold at home supply sites, as opposed to the e-commerce portals for e-cigs. Again, no warranties are implied, nor am I recommending it. I haven't even tried it myself, but like I said, if you really want to pursue the needle fill, it's going to probably need to be the smallest, blunt tip needle you can find. That's probably the most precise instrument you'll be able to buy online without some type of license.
Can I post a link to one of the syringe sites here, or are we confined to e-cig links only?
I looked at the syringes in the first few months I was really trying to re-use the cartos as long as I could. My conclusion was that, if you want to use a syringe, the syringe you really need is a 28-30 gauge needle, instead of the 18 gauges sold on most e-cig sites. A 30 gauge needle is so thin it would fit into the edge of the carto, or possibly even be able to pierce the absorbency stuff without "bending" it and breaking the element.
30 gauge blunt tip needle/syringes are typically sold at home supply sites, as opposed to the e-commerce portals for e-cigs. Again, no warranties are implied, nor am I recommending it. I haven't even tried it myself, but like I said, if you really want to pursue the needle fill, it's going to probably need to be the smallest, blunt tip needle you can find. That's probably the most precise instrument you'll be able to buy online without some type of license.
Can I post a link to one of the syringe sites here, or are we confined to e-cig links only?
There are too many options out there where cartomizers are minimized if even used anymore.
Dunno?
Maybe you have to Drink the Kool-Aid before you use it?
Or maybe it works better to Drink the Kool-Aid before reading Some peoples Posts?
Apologies to the esteemed veterans for the misquoted paths, and the misperception of sarcasm.
As good as recycling cartos sounds, they all come from China. Sending dead ones back to China and being re-furbed realistically isn't going to happen.
G'Day Shofixti, am in same boat - I copied the link to wp doc to access later. Also video by Outlaw I think that says can add cartomizers minus the plastic top, to boiling water and boil for 5 mins and it leaves them minus residual old flavours. I am going to try that. cheers
Hi, cfries!
We are talking about 2 different things here.... But, first, when I initially fill a carto, I use the "condom" method. You add about 22 drops of e-liquid into the silicone carto covering. Insert battery side first and slowly push down until all liquid is absorbed. You may also add a few drops to the top to saturate it. Blow out the center hole, in case any liquid is inside....
That will hold about 1 mil in a regular sized carto. When it starts to get a bit dry, I just drip a few drops on the top of the filler material and repeat until totally gunked.... lol!
When cleaning, this method uses syringes with NO needles.... Actually, you need a bit of tubing, a neighbor set me up there.... SOme people use aquarium tubing, but this is the same stuff used in medical applications. Just take a few inches of it and put it over the end of the syringe. It will fit snugly. Then, insert your carto onto the other end of the tubing, that will be snug also and create a nice seal! At that point, you will be flushing it with hot water. Be careful as the steel of the carto will get hot. I'm not sure how ShogaNinja does it, but you want to draw up clean hot water into the carto, through the tubing and then flush it back out.... He claims to do it 50-100 times. I haven't done it that many times, so I did have some left over gunk. I believe there are places that will sell you an item like this, but they are way more expensive than what you could get for yourself.... I watched the vendors video and they filled the carto using this method, too. Great idea, but since I have had a lot of luck filling with the condom, I never tried it as it would be more work.....
So, basically forget about the needles, they are not needed. The only thing you would need a needle for would be to fill certain types of tanks or clearomizers. Dripping to fill a carto works just fine, but it is more time consuming than using the condom method....
Hope this helps!
We are talking about 2 different things here.... But, first, when I initially fill a carto, I use the "condom" method. You add about 22 drops of e-liquid into the silicone carto covering. Insert battery side first and slowly push down until all liquid is absorbed. You may also add a few drops to the top to saturate it. Blow out the center hole, in case any liquid is inside....
That will hold about 1 mil in a regular sized carto. When it starts to get a bit dry, I just drip a few drops on the top of the filler material and repeat until totally gunked.... lol!
When cleaning, this method uses syringes with NO needles.... Actually, you need a bit of tubing, a neighbor set me up there.... SOme people use aquarium tubing, but this is the same stuff used in medical applications. Just take a few inches of it and put it over the end of the syringe. It will fit snugly. Then, insert your carto onto the other end of the tubing, that will be snug also and create a nice seal! At that point, you will be flushing it with hot water. Be careful as the steel of the carto will get hot. I'm not sure how ShogaNinja does it, but you want to draw up clean hot water into the carto, through the tubing and then flush it back out.... He claims to do it 50-100 times. I haven't done it that many times, so I did have some left over gunk. I believe there are places that will sell you an item like this, but they are way more expensive than what you could get for yourself.... I watched the vendors video and they filled the carto using this method, too. Great idea, but since I have had a lot of luck filling with the condom, I never tried it as it would be more work.....
So, basically forget about the needles, they are not needed. The only thing you would need a needle for would be to fill certain types of tanks or clearomizers. Dripping to fill a carto works just fine, but it is more time consuming than using the condom method....
Hope this helps!
We are probably talking about two different things. I've been BOGE 510 cartos, whose life expectancy probably isn't more than about a day. (The heating element, not the absorbency stuff). If a suction wash like you're describing works, that's great, but the lifespan of the heating element probably won't change.
Again, I ask the question I ask of ShogNinja - what cartos are you using and where did you buy them?
Again, I ask the question I ask of ShogNinja - what cartos are you using and where did you buy them?
As a completely tangential aside, the "condoms" that protect the cartos during shipping (assuming they aren't coated with e-juice) enjoy an interesting "second life" as sound damping ear plugs.
You probably have to pm him... I haven't had any coils break on me, just the ones I broke with my paper clip... The filler goes on me before the coils... I end up getting a really stiff draw. I actually thought of putting a little vodka in it to see if that would loosen it up a bit...... I think he is using just the boges, but I am sure that was before bogegate....
Funny. I was completely unaware of bogegate as a social/business/manufacturing/international phenomenon. I've not gotten the burn-taste unless I use a blank carto with no liquid in it (yes, genius). I can tell you that at least twice I've gotten threads that were crooked enough that the thing didn't fit into the battery.
Vodka .... certainly an edible solvent. Now I'm going to have to see what other weird edible solvents might be around .... Vinegar, anyone?
Vodka .... certainly an edible solvent. Now I'm going to have to see what other weird edible solvents might be around .... Vinegar, anyone?
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