510 Charging Question

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wahilde

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I'm a total newbie. I just got my 510s from Innovapor. I got 5 manual batteries and two of the single-piece USB chargers, among other things. When I plug the charger into the USB port without a battery connected, I get a solid blue light on the charger. When I connect a battery to the charger I still get a solid blue light on the charger. It's the same thing with all 5 batteries and both chargers, so they must be working correctly, but does that mean the batteries are already charged or not? If I vape with any of the batteries, the LED on the battery turns on solid, but then starts blinking after 2 or 3 seconds. Does that blinking mean the battery is low or what? I do get good vapor, but I'm afraid of ruining my batteries or atomizers by running my batteries too low. Help!
 

wahilde

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I'm a total newbie. I just got my 510s from Innovapor. I got 5 manual batteries and two of the single-piece USB chargers, among other things. When I plug the charger into the USB port without a battery connected, I get a solid blue light on the charger. When I connect a battery to the charger I still get a solid blue light on the charger. It's the same thing with all 5 batteries and both chargers, so they must be working correctly, but does that mean the batteries are already charged or not? If I vape with any of the batteries, the LED on the battery turns on solid, but then starts blinking after 2 or 3 seconds. Does that blinking mean the battery is low or what? I do get good vapor, but I'm afraid of ruining my batteries or atomizers by running my batteries too low. Help!

OK, so I figured out part of my question. The batteries must already be charged. After using one of them for while, when I put it on the charger, the charger light is red -- that's what I was looking for. It flickers blue sometimes, but I guess once it's fully recharged it will be solid blue again.

Now I still don't know what makes the LED start to flash after a couple of seconds. It also turns completely off after about 5 or 6 seconds, so I guess that's the protection circuitry keeping the battery from over discharging or something. Can anyone elaborate on this LED blinking behaviour?
 

wahilde

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Now I still don't know what makes the LED start to flash after a couple of seconds. It also turns completely off after about 5 or 6 seconds, so I guess that's the protection circuitry keeping the battery from over discharging or something. Can anyone elaborate on this LED blinking behaviour?

Dang, I don't know how to edit my posts. Anyway, when referring to the LED blinking, what I mean is the battery LED while vaping. Also, the LED eventually will turn off completely after about 5-6 seconds. I guess it's just a timer or limiter on the battery circuit to protect it. What's it mean when it blinks? What it mean when the LED turns off?
 

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OK, so I figured out part of my question. The batteries must already be charged. After using one of them for while, when I put it on the charger, the charger light is red -- that's what I was looking for. It flickers blue sometimes, but I guess once it's fully recharged it will be solid blue again.

Now I still don't know what makes the LED start to flash after a couple of seconds. It also turns completely off after about 5 or 6 seconds, so I guess that's the protection circuitry keeping the battery from over discharging or something. Can anyone elaborate on this LED blinking behaviour?

Innovapor does ship their batteries fully charged. The manual batteries will signal low voltage, fast blink of the battery led, but normally they will only do so when the low voltage limit is reached. They will cut off if you hold the button down too long. Running them through a couple of cycles and see if this condition goes away.

The led on the charger will blink at a regular interval due to the protection circuit checking to determine the battery condition, this is normal.

When it is fully charged the led will turn blue and the charge cycle is complete. The info on charging the first time for 8 to 12 hours is bogus. When a li-Ion battery is charged the charger completely shuts down and the battery is fully charged. There is no such thing as an initial charge.

I hope this helps. If you have any continued strange behavior you should be able to contact the merchant and receive help.

Kevin
 

a2dcovert

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The 510 should be charged for 12 hours on the first charge. Approx. 4 hour charges should do the trick after that. However, I usually charge it for about an hour after it stays green. BTW, good choice going with the 510. I love my 510, but the batt life is just too short for me, that's why I have ordered a 510 protege.
As to your ? about throat hits and vapor production, here is my 2 cents. It depends a bit on the liquid used. I haven't tried Ecopure, but you might have better luck with another liquid. Also, I wouldn't recommend your method of dripping. When one of your carts is empty, pull out the fill and throw it in the trash. Then drip 2-3 drops on the atty, this is how I get the best hits. Sooner or later, try a cart mod like the PTB filler. It seems to me like you're probably flooding the atty which would affect vapor production and cause leaking.

Li-Ion batteries do not have a break-in charge cycle. First time and every time when the led turns green the charge cycle is complete. There is no trickle charge with Li-Ion batteries. The instructions are bogus for Li-Ions.

Kevin
 

a2dcovert

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The way my 510 manual batteries work:

When I press the button the LED lights up. If the battery is dead it blinks about 5 times. Once it is dead pressing the button doesn't do anything anymore.

I'm not aware of any cut off. As far as I know I could hold the button in as long as I want to.


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Your correct. I have a couple that will do the cut off if you hold it down long enough to make it hit the low voltage cut off. Just an early warning I guess. Not all of mine do that.

Kevin
 

Lestat

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My manual batteries are a month old now and they seem to be getting worse as to how long the last, the 2-4 hrs of charging is barely getting me through the one being used dies. Is this normal for the 510's and if so are there better batteries out there that work with the pcc?

Sorry I know this is a little off topic but I cant start a diff forum yet.
 

wahilde

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Innovapor does ship their batteries fully charged. The manual batteries will signal low voltage, fast blink of the battery led, but normally they will only do so when the low voltage limit is reached. They will cut off if you hold the button down too long. Running them through a couple of cycles and see if this condition goes away.

The led on the charger will blink at a regular interval due to the protection circuit checking to determine the battery condition, this is normal.

When it is fully charged the led will turn blue and the charge cycle is complete. The info on charging the first time for 8 to 12 hours is bogus. When a li-Ion battery is charged the charger completely shuts down and the battery is fully charged. There is no such thing as an initial charge.

I hope this helps. If you have any continued strange behavior you should be able to contact the merchant and receive help.

Kevin

Thanks Kevin. It's all working great and it seems you are correct on all counts. I never had to do a full charge on any of the 5 batteries I got from Innovapor. They were already charged, thus the solid blue light when plugging them into the charger. I only left them on the charger for a few minutes and assumed they were already charged and I was correct. Now when vaping, the LED appears to start flashing when the voltage drops a bit low and then cuts off completely if it drops even lower to some pre-determined level. The battery is simply doing a good job of protecting itself and extending its longevity. I quickly learned that I don't need to hold the button down continuously while taking a long slow drag. Just kind of hitting the button for about 2 seconds and then letting off for a second and then hitting it again for about 2 seconds works great. Bottom line is just to avoid the blinking LED by limiting your constant ON time during a drag. It all makes sense to me know. I'm really loving this system. After 30+ years of smoking (and trying desperately to quit the whole time -- tried everything) I've finally found something that won't clog my lungs with tar and a hundred+ other chemicals. I can easily see myself eventually weening myself down to no nicotine some day, but still keep vaping because I will always need that hand-to-mouth and inhale fix. A new life starts today.
 

NickyVapr

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I wish you good luck on quitting. I know it's not easy even with the e-cig. I was a 40 year 3 pack a day smoker. I've been cig free for about 5 1/2 months now. It's very hard when you are an addict, the craving never goes completely away.

I'm glad the hardware is working for you now.

Kevin

Thats intense, i mean i smoked a half pack a day for three years and i was addicted, but 3 packs a day is quite a habbit. I will say that the ecigs help you quite much easier than nicotine gum and likely any other method. Honestly most people who use it at least cut down to significantly less analogs a day. I'll bum one on occasion, but you lose the taste for real cigs very quickly if you don't smoke them for a few days. so having an analog cig satisfies my curiosity more than my addiction at this point. also quit meters help to make you feel good, and give you a real way to monitor your progress.
 
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