801 atty separation --need advice

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lorgain

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I have a DSE 801 atomizer that just failed. The black band at the threaded end has come loose from the silver barrel. The leads are still securely in place and the atomizer does function properly.

For the moment, I have a piece of tape preventing the black band from freely turning and breaking the +, - leads. Is there reason to quit using this atomizer because of where the scotch tape is applied?

What adhesive can I use to repair this? I'm a fan of Gorilla glue, but not if I end up vaping it.

What is the technique to prevent plugging the holes when re-affixing the parts together?


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Lucy
 

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I have a DSE 801 atomizer that just failed. The black band at the threaded end has come loose from the silver barrel. The leads are still securely in place and the atomizer does function properly.

For the moment, I have a piece of tape preventing the black band from freely turning and breaking the +, - leads. Is there reason to quit using this atomizer because of where the scotch tape is applied?

What adhesive can I use to repair this? I'm a fan of Gorilla glue, but not if I end up vaping it.

What is the technique to prevent plugging the holes when re-affixing the parts together?


Thank,
Lucy

That happened to one of mine. It had the best draw after that ring fell off. Then one day the screw end popped off and the atomizer was flopping around on the wires. Knocked it back in and got a few more days out of it. I miss that atomizer :( You may end up plugging the vent holes with glue. Be careful.

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That happened to one of mine. It had the best draw after that ring fell off. Then one day the screw end popped off and the atomizer was flopping around on the wires. Knocked it back in and got a few more days out of it. I miss that atomizer :( You may end up plugging the vent holes with glue. Be careful.

Brian

Thanks Cash and Brian. I'm going to attempt the gorilla glue protocol. I'll let you know how I make out.

Brian that is a hysterical story about your favorite atomizer. Sounds like you got every last bit of life from that thing. Waste not, want not!! I know exactly what you mean about finding that just perfect piece of equipment.

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Both my Puresmoker atty's did that within a week(seperated). Now my the first two of my 50 Be122 attys are 2 months going strong. I had been too busy to return them,so i guess these attys are poorly made? Other threads seem to point to this being the case.

I don't agree with the poorly made idea exactly, but only because PureSmoker is so honorable in the manner they do business. I think they are currently providing the best performing dripping friendly 801s that can be found. But, you are correct, there is a weakness in the separation problem.

My first two came apart as well within the first week. Just as with my whole past smoking history, I had to analyze why it happened. For me, it's because I'm a fidgiting kind of vaper. I had to learn not to twirl and fuss with the whistle tip or mindlessly try to line up the whistle tip with the USB Passthru switch. PureSmoker fixed me right up with knowledge and product service when I reported what had happened.

The last one to separate provided several weeks of service. I under stand that six weeks is what one should expect from the atomizer. That one did last about that long.

There's nothing out there to compare with the DSE801 sold here, so I'm going to start supplementing all of my atomizers with a line of gorilla glue before putting them into service from now on.

I hope you have tried to resolve your disatisfaction someone in the PureSmoker company. Don't just stew about it if you haven't. This really is a fine company to trade with and I send all my friends over here for their needs that can be provided with the current products offered.

Best Regards,
Lucy
 

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Hey Lucy, before you go telling me who to talk too,check the Puresmoker forum. I have been A HUGE supporter and posted 100's of sincere supportive posts. I can only relate MY EXPERIENCES to everybody. I told them do not worry about replacing them, i did not need them anymore.I too love Steve and Puresmoker(preordered 1 hour after the Prodigy and PT went up on website...but I have his atomizers i paid 20 bucks for that lasted a week. And I have 2(from another vendor) that have been in service for 2 MONTHS under the same conditions and haven't failed. I had one replaced and it did it AGAIN. My Prodigy is in a belt case at work and in a huge cargo pocket when im doing yard work or watching the game. What kind of FORENSIC investigation is needed? If it did it in my hand i would be TOTALLY stupid to not figure it out,but in my pocket or a belt case? Plus another make of atomizer tolerates these conditions,so why would I bother with figuring it out when I found a solution anyway. Sometimes just telling everybody you had an issue and YOUR solution is the best info you can give:) It is what it is.
 
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I can confirm that "true" 801 attys can become separated at the collar without being abused. It is also true that the BE112 attys are just the opposite. They are almost impossible to separate (I tried to take apart a dead one just to see what was inside. I gave up.)

This is not a PS issue. It's just the way the device is made. I find that if I treat the 801's that Steve sells gently they will last (the pair I am using has lasted one month so far).
 

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Hey Lucy, before you go telling me who to talk too,check the Puresmoker forum. I have been A HUGE supporter and posted 100's of sincere supportive posts. I can only relate MY EXPERIENCES to everybody. I told them do not worry about replacing them, i did not need them anymore.I too love Steve and Puresmoker(preordered 1 hour after the Prodigy and PT went up on website...but I have his atomizers i paid 20 bucks for that lasted a week. And I have 2(from another vendor) that have been in service for 2 MONTHS under the same conditions and haven't failed. I had one replaced and it did it AGAIN. My Prodigy is in a belt case at work and in a huge cargo pocket when im doing yard work or watching the game. What kind of FORENSIC investigation is needed? If it did it in my hand i would be TOTALLY stupid to not figure it out,but in my pocket or a belt case? Plus another make of atomizer tolerates these conditions,so why would I bother with figuring it out when I found a solution anyway. Sometimes just telling everybody you had an issue and YOUR solution is the best info you can give:) It is what it is.

Hey Cancer, sorry about that. I sure didn't mean to come off as a know-it-all, or a nanny. It's awfully hard sometimes to say what you mean without having the tonal inflections that talking speaking affords. Don't hold it against me. I'll try to put more of those emoticons in my posts. Again, :oops: sorry bout that.
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I can confirm that "true" 801 attys can become separated at the collar without being abused. It is also true that the BE112 attys are just the opposite. They are almost impossible to separate (I tried to take apart a dead one just to see what was inside. I gave up.)

This is not a PS issue. It's just the way the device is made. I find that if I treat the 801's that Steve sells gently they will last (the pair I am using has lasted one month so far).

I'm really loving my BE112 attys. Enough to order 20 more. Cash needs to look into getting some of these. You can screw them on the Prodigy as hard as you like without out them separating at the collar. Very well made.

Brian
 

lorgain

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I'm really loving my BE112 attys. Enough to order 20 more. Cash needs to look into getting some of these. You can screw them on the Prodigy as hard as you like without out them separating at the collar. Very well made.

Brian


Hey Brian,

Are they dripping friendly? What do you think about the amount of vapor produced. Actually, tell me all the stuff that a dripping vaper would want to know about that thing. I don't know even the dimensions of a BE112. Would it require some type of adaptation from 801 to BE112 on the PS PT or are they dimensionally the same critter?

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Brian S

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Hey Brian,

Are they dripping friendly? What do you think about the amount of vapor produced. Actually, tell me all the stuff that a dripping vaper would want to know about that thing. I don't know even the dimensions of a BE112. Would it require some type of adaptation from 801 to BE112 on the PS PT or are they dimensionally the same critter?

Thanks --Lucy

Look just like an 801. Vapor production is at least as good as the old 801,s Cash used to sell. It beat my old favorite atomizer. Good throat hit. You can keep the button depressed a good while without overheating or melting carts. I use carts so I can't comment too much about dripping but I imagine they drip as good as any other low bridge 801.

The draw was a bit hard for me initially but loosened up after a day to what I was used to. They need a short break-in period to really get going. The quality of construction is definitly higher than the ones Cash currently sells. You can screw it on the PV1 as hard as you like without the end comming off.

They have a lot of primer in them and it tasts bad. I was able to get mine flushed out and tasting right in about a day. One poster suggested soaking the atomizer in alcohol over night to get rid of the primer. I'll try that with the next one. For the price they cant be beat. A 5 pack with shipping costs about as much as attys purchased in the US. Buy more and save more.

The center post on the PV1 adaptor has to be flush with the screw threads though or it won't screw on. Cash has a few pics on how to lower the center post if that is a problem for you.

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lorgain

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Hey Lucy .... If you don't mind or care what it looks like, a small amount of gorilla glue on the outside (smeared on) around the crease of the ring and rest of the atomizer should keep it firmly snug -- You then have zero chance of inhaling the gorilla glue or plugging any holes :) Best of luck!

Hi Cash,

Just a follow up on the gorilla glue protocol. I hosed it real badly. There was no way for the glue to dry without sliding down the atomizer. Guess I could have done one side at a time. Too Late. Maybe someone else can do the job, just not me. Here's the really stupid thing about this. When I was buying the gorilla glue, right next it was gorilla glue tape. It was the same black color as the PS PT and 801 atomizer. I thought it might be the better solution cuz right now, I've got plain ol scotch tape doing the job. So, naturally, I didn't buy it and got the glue anyway. Duh....

So, I learned the hard way and I'm going back for the gorilla tape next time I visit Lowe's. I already know that it's going to work and it's going to look like it's supposed to be there.

--Lucy
 

lorgain

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vape without the ring is my advice,it works better....:) reglueing the ring is too risky

sattec, we can't be talking about the same thing. The ring that breaks loose is connected to the heating element by solder joints. So when the ring (collar?) comes loose, the next thing to happen is the solder joints break and there is no electrical connection between the battery(or USB PT) to the atomizer.

Did that make sense to you?:confused:

--Lucy
 
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