801 USERS I need HELP??

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vaporich

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I use 901s, 510s, and 801s.
I have shyed away from my 801 because, I cannot find a good way to juice it!!!

The cartridge always leaks,

I tried the tea bag, didnt work so great.

Tried direct dripping, and it doesnt last that long, also the juice leaks through the atomizer.


Has anyone found a way to make this sucker work good.

Im trying to use it with my 6 volt mod, because it has the largest atomizer.
IF i could just find a good way to juice this thing, Id be fine.

Please, I need some tips, tricks, or advice.

THanks.

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I have that happen a lot with 801s. The high bridge works best for me w carts. Doesnt seem low or high bridge is a factor with dripping.

I have found some 801s leak too.. some dont as much. this is if you are dripping.

I have used all the fillers I think there are for carts. Each one seems to work good for me for awhile.

I went back to poly though for my carts and cigarette filter cotton or whatever it is. it works great. buy cigareete tubes for rolling your own and just cut away the paper around the filter. They are very cheap for boxes of 200. Any Do it yourself Cig store has them. Or you can order from internet from many places. Several dollars a box of 200 tubes. Seems to me to work the best.

If you have any poly restuff your cart and try again..

I have much better success with 6 volts with the 801s. I dont care for them at 3.7

I love the 510 at 6 volts. Seems to me the best imo. Everyone is different.
 

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I have that happen a lot with 801s. The high bridge works best for me w carts. Doesnt seem low or high bridge is a factor with dripping.

I have found some 801s leak too.. some dont as much. this is if you are dripping.

I have used all the fillers I think there are for carts. Each one seems to work good for me for awhile.
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true true..... but none of this is a real problem... thats gunna happen i ahve the same problem with my 103
 

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You're using a mod, so I can't really see why the carts should be leaking, unless the wicking in your cart is lumpy, bumpy, or has void areas in it. If the wick isn't dense enough, it cannot hold the juice, and too much is released when you puff. If you're drawing too hard, same thing, will draw too much liquid from your cart, and the atty either floods or just can't heat well enough to vaporize that much liquid.
If the wick is too dense, it will taste scorched, because it can't wick enough liquid onto the bridge and be heated properly. If this is the case, you can carefully remove a tiny bit of the fiberfill at a time until you get the proper amount of vapor being developed. Don't draw or puff harder, it will not make more vapor, just the opposite, it will make less.
Long, gentle draws is the only way. That gives the atomizer enough time to properly heat, and draw liquid from your cart normally.
Another thing to check is the connection between the atomizer and the battery contact.
If it's wet, or if your atty isn't screwed on quite far enough, you're not getting full power delivered to the atty. It may contact, but short on power.
I've used nothing but 801's in almost 6 months, the only trouble I had is with the High Bridge attys. If you twist your cart on and off it will push the wick up into the cart and it cannot leach liquid onto the bridge. JUST ALWAYS push straight in and pull straight out. DO NOT TWIST!! You can get fiberfill sticking on the bridge which cuts down the efficiency of the atty. When you refill your cart, don't flood it. Stop dripping before you have liquid pooling on the top. I always used a needle-tip bottle to fill carts from the bottom up, rather than try to drip juice into it from the top down. Let your carts sit for awhile for the wick to absorb juice evenly.
So, three things,
1) check the cart filler for voids(or just too loosely packed) or too dense.
2) check atty/battery connection, dry it and make sure atty is firmly screwed in.
3) don't pull too hard, you pull too much juice, or generate too little heat. LOOONG EASY PUFFs.

If you're problem is with high-bridge attys, make sure to pull the wick (filler) a little bit past the edge of the cart, insert straight into the bridge NO Twisting! You need good contact between the atty bridge and the wick (fiberfill) and you should be getting tons of vapor!

Good luck! I loved my 801 so much I bought a Janty Stick. But all the same principals still apply. Only thing, now the batteries don't cost $14 each anymore!
 
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I have shyed away from my 801 because, I cannot find a good way to juice it!!!

The cartridge always leaks,

I have had no leakage from 801 cartridges. If your definition of this is juice in the mouth, then kate51 provided a good reason for that. I stopped using carts soon after I started vaping, particularly when using a high-voltage device.

Tried direct dripping, and it doesnt last that long, also the juice leaks through the atomizer.

All drippers will have some degree of leakage depending upon how aggressively they drip. Some combinations of atomizer and battery source connector may leak more than others. One of my past DIY mods plus a BE112 atomizers was a 'vape and wipe' operation.

Like any liquid, it will flow with gravity and find a path of least resistance. Try dripping no more than three drops down the atomizer. Vape it off until the taste turns toward 'burnt' before dripping again. Don't drip your atomizer and put it down and walk away from it. If the e-liquid sits too long, it will seep out. Always have a napkin or paper towel with you!

Im trying to use it with my 6 volt mod, because it has the largest atomizer.
IF i could just find a good way to juice this thing, Id be fine.

Keep at it. I use the 801-style atomizer exclusively and it works very well. Most commercially available specialty PVs have a well at the base of the atomizer where excess liquid collects. Those wells need to be wiped out periodically. This tells me that most designers allowed for the fact that e-liquid is going to leak out.
 

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I don't drip.
I'm smoking a prodigy with an 801 and would highly recommend that you try the low bridge Atty. 2 available on market are the. Joye302, the Bestecig.com BE-112.
The low bridge does not wad the filling and I get around 11 drops of liquid per vape session. No dripping necessary

The Pro's on the forums in other threads recommend the Bestecig BE-112 Atomizer for smoking from the cartridge.
 

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Ive heard some good suggestions, so far guys thanks,

In response, I normally would just drip, but when I drip, I find myself having to rejuice alot, thats why I was trying to go back to cart. I have a couple edobits too,
They work, but Im trying to find a way to get them to put out more juice.
I hold it on there for like 20 seconds, and Ill only get 4 to 5 good hits.

I find the 510 to work the best with my 6 volt mod. But, I know the 801 should work better, thats why Im trying to get some tips.

SO, we are agreeing that If I choose to drip, be prepared for juice leakage, try to only drip 3 drops at a time, and be ready to reload alot.

I have supplier carts, polyfill, and pyramid tea bags for the carts,
I havent quite deceided what works best.
I havent got the right mix of density down for the polyfill, I know I dont want to pack it too tight, neither too loose.
I HAVE THE HIGH BRIDGE 801s,
SO sometimes, the polyfill gets attachted to the atomizer.
THe tea bags, dont really seem to work to well either though for the 801, at least for me.
What kind of carts do you guys and girls use???
Mine, have the black rubber mouthpeice, with the white plastic chamber attachted to that.
Thats were it leaks most, when alot of juice is added to the plastic white chamber, the juice leaks out by the mouthpeice, it doesnt leak when I inhale.

ANY more suggestions??? Polyfill or tea bag,
Or drip and juice,
Does anyone else have a edobit, if you do, have you tried to mod that, so it allows more juice to come out.

VR
 

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Well I gotta say the 801 has had me frustrated. I've been a 510 user since the beginning and have really been pleased with evrything except the battery life (like all 510 ers). So I bought a Janty Stick for the batt life and the built in pass thru. I love those features!! But I've had NO luck making this think wick. I'm using the stock Janty low bridge atty and the supplied cart. I'm an experienced enough vaper to draw nice and slow and not chain vape. I wait betwen hits (sometimes as much as a minute). But still after about3 - 5 hits I get the burnt polyfill taste. I pull the fill out to the end, don't overfill and push it straight in. Is there anything else I'm doing wrong here? On another thread someone suggested a high bridge atty, so I bought some from RMV and still the same thing Seems like I'm following all the 810 "rules" and still no success. The only time I'm enjoying this JS is when I drip and dripping dosen't really fit my style. I need to be able to pull the PV out, take a few hits and put it away. The 510 rules in this.

If there's anybody that can tell me what to do to make it work I'd love to know. I'm hoping that Janty gets the 510 adapter to work and I can just go that way.
 

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Same thing for me man,
I use the 901 and the 510 easily, and they work great.
Like normal, passthrough, and with my 6 volt mod.
But, I have never been able to get the 801 to work, like the others,
It never seems to hold juice right, I really think its the poor design of the cartridge shell.
There has to be a way to fix this.
Once in a blue moon, when I do get a good vape, I can tell the 801 would be a good vaping normal model, but I cant find a way to juice it correctly, and Ive tried everything.
Thats why I made this thread, Im hoping someone out there, Has found a different method we havent thought of, I just ordered more 801 atomizers too, cuz I got the adapter in to work with my 6 volt mod.
Someone find a cart MOD for it, pleasseeee.
 
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