99% nic juice

[wellfedned]

Don"t know if anybody has seen this. I just got it through an email alert from alibaba. It sells in 1 kilo lots. I havn't inquired as the cost because what would I do with a kilo of nic juice. Some one may find this link of some use. ihttp://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/256399147/Nicotine_Liquid_E_liquid_.html

 

[lowwkeyy]

woo hoo im so happy i kept my hazmat suit where is the buy it button

 

[kardjunkie]

says you can get 10%-99%. How many liters or ml would be in a kilogram, i know that's roughly 2.2 lbs?

 

[Minimike]

Roughly, 1 liter of extremely deadly poison. 1,000 ml or about 20,000 times more than needed to kill you.

 

[DVap]

Sooner or later, someone is going to win big.

 

[JebGipson]

Holy crap I'd love to work with stuff but isn't there even toxic potentional from pore absorption? as in get some on your skin and it could probably not kill you but make you very sick...

 

[DVap]

Holy crap I'd love to work with stuff but isn't there even toxic potentional from pore absorption? as in get some on your skin and it could probably not kill you but make you very sick...

You're understating the hazard.

I work with toxic stuff every day. It's my job. I've been at it over 20 years, I'm constantly trained and retrained in the handling of toxic substances, I'm an expert. I keep 5% nicotine at home, locked up. I have a stricter protocol for handling 5% when mixing it down than most folks probably do. Would I allow essentially pure nicotine in my home? Hell no, never for any reason.

Get a drop (50 mg) on your skin and it can definitely kill you. To kill your kids and pets, you might only need a fraction of a drop carelessly left on the outside of the bottle, or on a household surface.

 

[DaMulta]

You're understating the hazard.

I work with toxic stuff every day. It's my job. I've been at it over 20 years, I'm constantly trained and retrained in the handling of toxic substances, I'm an expert. I keep 5% nicotine at home, locked up. I have a stricter protocol for handling 5% when mixing it down than most folks probably do. Would I allow essentially pure nicotine in my home? Hell no, never for any reason.

Get a drop (50 mg) on your skin and it can definitely kill you. To kill your kids and pets, you might only need a fraction of a drop carelessly left on the outside of the bottle, or on a household surface.

50Mg can kill you with a drop? I have had 60Mg on my fingers, and all I did was wipe them off. I have spilled HALF a bottle of 36Mg on my hands when I was out and about, and all I could do was wipe them off with no water to wash them. NO ILL EFFECTS I even vapped during this time.

Wasn't there a test where they sprayed a beach down with nicotine, and people laid in it for 15mins before they had any effect on them in the 40s?

 

[JesterDev]

50Mg can kill you with a drop? I have had 60Mg on my fingers, and all I did was wipe them off. I have spilled HALF a bottle of 36Mg on my hands when I was out and about, and all I could do was wipe them off with no water to wash them. NO ILL EFFECTS I even vapped during this time.

This stuff is pure extract not e-juice. e-juice is cut with PG/VG.

 

[VaporLasVegas]

I have been in contact with someone over there about the 99% and they are saying things like 3-5 days shipping only like $124 per liter and really wanted me to place an order right there on the spot.

I however am extreamly cautious about that 99% nic level.8-o not only that but the way it is presented seems to good to be true! and you know what they say.......

I think I will wait and see what happens with someone els who orders from them before I dare to send them my payment info. By the way there are sooo many of these supplyers over there who can sell you the 99% through alibaba!

 

[DVap]

Jester.. you got it.

When looking at a drop of 50 mg e-liquid, you're looking at a material that's 50 mg/mL in nicotine (or there's 2.5 mg of nicotine in that drop of e-liquid).

Compare to pure nicotine, you're looking at a material that's 1,010 mg/mL in nicotine, (or there's ~ 50 mg of nicotine in that drop of pure nicotine).

Also, with e-liquid, the matrix itself (the propylene glycol) shields the skin from the nicotine since PG apparently does not absorb dermally, thus the active transport of nicotine does not occur as it would with pure nicotine.

I'm not going to say a drop of nicotine on your skin, quickly washed off is going to kill you. At the very least, it's likely to be enough absorbed rapidly enough to make you quite sick.

A drop unnoticed might kill you, but that drop very likely will kill your kids and pets since 1) they're smaller and 2) they're probably not smokers, so they've got zero tolerance.

Also, if you have difficulty with the concepts of mg/mL and dilute solutions vs concentrated chemicals.. you doubly shouldn't be fooling with this stuff. Funny how those with the least training and expertise are the most eager to get hold of this stuff.

Go here and think about it if you're having trouble getting rid of the pure nicotine bug.

 

[DVap]

I think I will wait and see what happens with someone els who orders from them before I dare to send them my payment info. By the way there are sooo many of these supplyers over there who can sell you the 99% through alibaba!

To whoever decides to go first,

Good luck with customs, good luck with DHS, good luck with everything. If you become the FDA's deceased poster-child for "why e-smoking must be stopped!", you'll have done your fellow vapers possibly irreparable harm.

FFS, you can buy 500 mL of domestic e-liquid concentrate at a sane ~5% nicotine concentration for under $200 (and keep away from kids and pets even at 1/20th full strength!) A 24 mg vaper would be set up for a year on this stuff, and outlive the liquid rather than the liquid outliving him.

 

[Heed]

Even a 10% solution of this stuff is going to be equivalent to e-liquid at 100mg strength, I believe. Be very careful -- I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.

 

[JebGipson]

...Holy crap that makes the stuff I usto work with when I was dealing with drug addiction seem tame... Hrm.... what if you worked with it in let's say a workbench in ones garage/shop and immediately cut it with VG or PG then took careful precautions to make sure no trace was left on the bench (drop sheet, elbow length gloves, yada yada)... hrm... I was never trained in handling toxic substances but I learned a few things over the years... if I decided to try to work with this stuff what would you folks recomend as far as inital safety precautions? (This is in theory though chances that I'll want to work with the stuff are slim. I'd prefer work with a less potent product, screw saving a few bucks if my garage can be turned into toxic land from any residuals.)

 

[Kewtsquirrel]

a 10% solution in what buffer is the question - if it's in anything but USP PG (and you trust the company to actually use USP PG), then you're just burning money. There are already (albeit more expensive) stateside sources for pure nic+USP PG solutions up to 75mg/ml, why gamble with your life over a few bucks and the hope that the chinese company you just sent money to actually cares about quality?

Edit: Jeb, if you need to ask that question, you have no business dealing with anything this toxic. The answer to your question though, at the *very* least, is a glovebox and fume hood. On top of that, you need 100% certainty that there is no trace contamination on the outside of whatever vessel you're putting stuff in, and a way to handle any spill cleanup. Accidents will happen, spills will happen. 1ml of pure nic is 1000mg. It only takes 50-100mg to kill an adult human - thats 1-2 drops, with rapid dermal absorption. In handling a pg-nic solution, at the strongest strength I've seen (75mg/ml) it would take roughly .75ml to 1.5ml (15 to 30 drops) to reach that lethal dose, the PG ......s the dermal absorption - so you'd basically have to drink or inject it.

 

[Heed]

a 10% solution in what buffer is the question - if it's in anything but USP PG (and you trust the company to actually use USP PG), then you're just burning money. There are already (albeit more expensive) stateside sources for pure nic+USP PG solutions up to 75mg/ml, why gamble with your life over a few bucks and the hope that the chinese company you just sent money to actually cares about quality?

I would imagine it's PG since the use for the product is listed as "10%-99% Nicotine liquid from Tobacco Extract Slight yellow oily liquid for producing E-cigar smoking, E-juice, quit-smoking". But yeah, you'd need to know it's grade and be confident the supplier is reputable.

And yes, there's strong enough mixers available through normal means. Or there's bulk orders from central trade or somewhere similar.

There's no do over with this stuff -- one mistake and you're out.

 

[Kewtsquirrel]

I just don't trust the Chinese when it comes to liquid. Every single chinese 'tasteless' liquid I've tried has the same bitter beer aftertaste and is damn near brown. The 7.5% I order from bliplabs here in the states has no such taste and is almost entirely clear. So the real question is - why is their stuff brown?

 

[DVap]

I just don't trust the Chinese when it comes to liquid. Every single chinese 'tasteless' liquid I've tried has the same bitter beer aftertaste and is damn near brown. The 7.5% I order from bliplabs here in the states has no such taste and is almost entirely clear. So the real question is - why is their stuff brown?

Their stuff is brown because it's either terribly oxidized or not particularly cleaned up from the extraction.

I wonder how careful those guys were to get all traces of organic solvents out of the mix?

Yep, the 40 and 48 mg I have from domestic suppliers are crystal clear.

 

[rfw2003]

I contacted them to see what the pricing was and here is the email

Dear Mr R.F. Warren,



Thank you for your enquiry about our Smoking Liquid Nicotine on Sep.23th.

This is Elena from Shaanxi Tianze Biological Technology Co.,Ltd.



We have some regular customer from USA.we offered the Pure Nicotine 98% and 99% to the USA,so the shipping to USA is OK.



The Price as following :



Nicotine 98 % is $ 125 Slight Yellow Liquid

Nicotine 99 % is $ 135 Colorless Transparent Oily Liquid .



Minmum Order : 1 KG



We send by DHL,it is safety and fasty.



So any Questions,please contact me freely.



It is so appreciate ig I can receive your reply,



Best Wishes



Yours Faithfully,



Elena .

R.F.

 

[vapomike]

I don't think some people actually understand how dangerous pure nicotine is. I honestly know very little about it, but I knew it was dangerous as all get out. Did NOT know about the dermal absorption properties. I knew like a drop to your lips could kill you but I did not know it could be anywhere on your body.