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JoanJ

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That looks pretty cool. But wow that price hurts. Did you get to play with one?

Sometime... well most of the time... I am totally stupid about this stuff. Can someone please tell me why a company makes something like this and puts a price tag on it like that when they know full well that china is going to be the first of very few that will buy it to clone. It seems to me that if they put a price of $30 or even $40 on it to start with that many would opt for the original instead and they would make more money that way...
 

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Sometime... well most of the time... I am totally stupid about this stuff. Can someone please tell me why a company makes something like this and puts a price tag on it like that when they know full well that china is going to be the first of very few that will buy it to clone. It seems to me that if they put a price of $30 or even $40 on it to start with that many would opt for the original instead and they would make more money that way...

I agree Joan. If they made RDAs/RBAs and mods that everyone could afford, there wouldn't be as much of a market for clones. I don't mean they should give them away at fast tech prices, but $30 or $40 would put them into a price range that many of us would be able to pay.
 

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JoanJ:13681543 said:
Sometime... well most of the time... I am totally stupid about this stuff. Can someone please tell me why a company makes something like this and puts a price tag on it like that when they know full well that china is going to be the first of very few that will buy it to clone. It seems to me that if they put a price of $30 or even $40 on it to start with that many would opt for the original instead and they would make more money that way...
As a mechanical designer, I can actually provide a relatively good answer to this.

When a device like that is made here in America, or any other country that has control over copyrights and patents, the cost of engineering, prototyping, testing, and machining controls the price. Companies in China reverse engineer the product and produce it with crazy cheap labor, inferior materials, and less care in manufacturing.

I'm a hypocrite for saying it because I buy and use the Chinese products, but the fact that they flat out steal the design is highly immoral, and would be illegal anywhere else. Clones are almost never as good as originals in terms of quality and materials. Sometime the functionality can be just as good, and in some cases better, but usually the longevity and durability is inferior.

So that was the long answer. The short answer is that the original designer/manufacturer could never afford to sell the products for anywhere close to what China can sell a knockoff for. It's really sad, especially since I cannot afford to pay the price the legitimate one costs. It's also one of the main reasons manufacturing in this country has declined so much.
 
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Dino.Spinelli:13681090 said:
That looks pretty cool. But wow that price hurts. Did you get to play with one?
No, they didn't have them in yet. Very new. I didn't even know what it looked like until a Google search finally yielded results a couple days ago. I doubt I'll get to play with one until it shows up on slowtech.
 

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No, they didn't have them in yet. Very new. I didn't even know what it looked like until a Google search finally yielded results a couple days ago. I doubt I'll get to play with one until it shows up on slowtech.

I saw one guy selling one brand new on Reddit for $120. It was sold in hours after post. I think one of the reasons the Kayfun has such a great taste is because of the cone chamber. Lately I have not even been using the tank on my Kayfun. I've been just soaking the cotton and using the inter cone. I get a lot more smack in the face taste.
 

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Absofreakinglutely. So I will place my order Wednesday as soon as you say you put everything up. My cart is already full on my account so I will just add stuff.

All new flavors are up on the site. I will be getting more Granny Smith Apple today so I will be changing the MTV Caramel Apple over today as well.
 

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Just bought a russin 91% clone that has the adjustable 510 pin (i hear some of the kayfuns won't sit right on some mods) for 27 and I'm looking fwd to using it.
I'm sure your going to love it. Kayfuns and R91s are the best tank setups IME.
FYI, the Kayfun 3.1 that Dino sells for $29 has the adjustable pin. I'm loving mine.
 

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I had no idea he had them! Lol...crap. well I know where to get another one if I choose. Does he have them in black? I got the brushed gray. I wanted black but they were always 10 more just for a color change.
His are polished stainless. Mirror shine.
I don't think you'll ever see a kayfun "killer" just tweaked versions. I love single coils, dual in the small chamber is too hot for me
I didn't think of the heat factor. Good point. I'll still try one when they hit $30 though.
 

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I don't think you'll ever see a kayfun "killer" just tweaked versions. I love single coils, dual in the small chamber is too hot for me

Funny, just what my son said when I showed it to him. I stick with my little tanks but even there, watch what I buy because I like the single coils and a really cool vape
 

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Nevermind. I just begged and pleaded in the notes. ;-) I'm going camping in the Hoh rain forest on the peninsula Friday with my little one. I will have vapemail when I return. Mwahahahah!
I remember camping there when I was about ten years old. What an amazing place! The Hall of Mosses is the greenest thing I've ever seen. Have a nice trip, and try to stay dry! SO jealous
 
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