A Big Welcome from MadTown Vapor

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Dino.Spinelli

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I didn’t realize you weren’t building on a dripper, etc., so this tutorial is for that, but building the coils and up to the installation all applies.

So, here is my “kit,” and to the left are the tools I will need for this build.
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I will be building dual coils on an Origen V2 clone. I am using the ohm meter, previously checked for calibration by also testing attys on a multi-meter and on my vv mod that reads the atty when you screw it in.
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As a beginner, you will do well to get an app on your cell called “vapers toolbox.” It will help you build perfect coils every time. Seriously. There are multiple screens for multiple inputs. Here is what one screen looks like.
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Also, I use a website to calculate the mm of the drill bits I’m using. It’s a conversion chart from fractions to mm, and you need mm to input into vapers toolbox. I like this website for conversion (I’ve tried a few). Drill Bit Size Chart Vapers toolbox allows you to ender the gauge of your wire, the mm of the wrapping utility and the desired ohms rating to get the wraps you will need. (There are lots of other functions of it, but that’s the basics.)

So, for wire, I have 26, 28 and 30g. The lower the ohms, the fewer the wraps. But the thicker the wire the longer it takes to heat up. 30g is thinner and harder to wrap, but really good for building coils on botton coil atomizers like found on Kanger tanks at higher ohm ratings. The opening in the hardware to insert the coil is much smaller than the type of room you have on a dripper, auto dripper or RBA deck, so I keep 30g around for that, as they make smaller coils. 28g is my typical use and works well for any ohms range. And 26g is super easy to wrap and great for sub ohming .but because of the thickness it takes a bit longer to heat up even at subs. Because of this, I use it primarily for single coil rba/rda builds. For the purpose of this build, I’m using 28g wrapped on a little screwdriver that measures about 5/64 if it were a .drill bit with a target of 1.0ohms, dual coil. The little screwdrivers are nice because the edge of the handle helps keep the coil on. I don’t like 1/16 drill bit coils. They annoy me. I have an Innokin SVD variable voltage that contrary to popular belief, will let me fire below 1.5 ohms (it’s let me go as low at .7 so far). .I will be using 1mm organic cotton pre-braided wick (like in a candle) because its’ super easy to thread through the origen’s vertical coils (you can do horizontal but mine wicks fine verticle) and easy to stuff into the wells. I also have in stock 2mm prebraided organic cotton and organic cotton fluffy cotton. They all have preferred uses. IF YOU ARE BUILDING on silica or what not, you will be wrapping your coil directly around the silica AND the drill bit (or whatever). .

Now, for dual coils, remember that you have to double the ohms for each coil because the energy is being taken from both coils thereby cutting it in half for each. I.e. my target is 1.0, so I’m going to be building coils that read 2.0 ohms each. In put those targets into vapers toolbox (or similar app for your phone) and it will tell you how many wraps you need. Using the conversion chart, I input 1.9844mm (drill bit size) into the app, along with 2.0 ohms target and 28g wire…it tells me: “Your coil should use a .12/11 wrap to get as close as possible….” It’ll also tell you how much wire to cut but I always cut more. So here we go!! I’m going to be building microcoils, i.e. the coil is compressed so all loops are touching. This increases surface area for the juice the heat up and you get better results. Don’t worry, non-micros work fine too!

Here is a 12/11 wrap coil on the screwdriver. I am leaving long tails because I know the way the Origen builds it’s helpful to have longer tails as they connect by wrapping around the posts, as opposed to threading through holes. Here’s 2 coils, one on the bit one off. I totally didn’t do these pretty, or close together, but that can be fixed.
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I used standard nail clippers to clip the wire. Cheap and affective. Get the wraps as close together as you can, squeeze the coil. Then we’ll work on the micro part.

So now to fix them into micros. This can be done a number of ways. First, I’m going to pinch the coils in pliers or tweezers, and straight as possible, and hit it with a cheap torch until they heat red for a few seconds. Remove the heat and you get a compressed coil. May need to do a couple times. Alternately, you can put the coils as is on the atomizer, heat them up to test them and right after they turn red, cut the power and quickly pinch them on the atty with tweezers. Works just as well.
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Using some kind of tool to set the coil helps tremendously, but it’s not always necessary. I need to center my coils over the wells on my atty. Doesn’t need to be, people do it different ways, I just like things symmetrical.. Took me about 2 minutes to install these, straighten them with the twist of an inserted tool, clip the excess wire with your clippers…(AT THIS POINT, IF YOU’RE BUILDING THE ATTY YOU SHOWED PICTURES OF WITH SILICA, JUST STABALIZE THE COIL IN THE CHANNEL HOLDING ONTO THE TAILS OF THE SILICA, DON’T LET ANY OF THE WIRES TOUCH ONE ANOTHER INSIDE THE CHANNEL. Take the rubber grommet and pin out of the bottom beforehand. Stick the tails through the channel with the rubber grommet hovering out there. One leg goes through the grommet, the other between the grommet and the metal channel. Squeeze the channel in, then put the pin in, then clip the wires. Do this with your drill bit or wound wick firmly in place so there’s no slack.)
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Well, I mashed the coils on accident, but the reading is pretty darn close, so I’m going to go with it.
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A quick test on the SVD, which is reading 1.0, so yes!!!!
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And it fires! Woot!
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I thread about 3 inches of my 1mm cotton through the coils, first wetting the ends in my mouth to make sure it goes in, then clipping that part off after to avoid taint. Put the arch on top to the side of the positive pin or it will clog the hole, and drop my wicks down into the wells.
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Soak it up/prime it, fill it, align the holes to the coils and vape on dude!
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I found it
 

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Hey everyone!

I've been really busy for a few weeks now and haven't been able to keep up with this thread.

I put in notice to my job of 11 years, only to find out on my second to last day that the guy that hired me at the new place,the guy that was going to mentor me into a engineering project manager, quit his job out of the blue. Now the new job has been eliminated and I have to go back to work at my current job with my tail between my legs.

Anyhoo, my priorities have been focused away from vaping and toward learning new (to me) project management software, putting together a wardrobe, and finding a new car to lease. So I'm back!

I don't have the time right now to read all of the posts I've missed, but Dino told me about a get together next Sunday in Cambridge, and I plan to go. Who else is going?

Did I miss anything good in the past weeks?

Good to be back. :vapor:
 

lexic

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Hey everyone!

I've been really busy for a few weeks now and haven't been able to keep up with this thread.

I put in notice to my job of 11 years, only to find out on my second to last day that the guy that hired me at the new place,the guy that was going to mentor me into a engineering project manager, quit his job out of the blue. Now the new job has been eliminated and I have to go back to work at my current job with my tail between my legs.

Anyhoo, my priorities have been focused away from vaping and toward learning new (to me) project management software, putting together a wardrobe, and finding a new car to lease. So I'm back!

I don't have the time right now to read all of the posts I've missed, but Dino told me about a get together next Sunday in Cambridge, and I plan to go. Who else is going?

Did I miss anything good in the past weeks?

Good to be back. :vapor:

My husband and I will be going Sunday.

Good to see you back. :)
 

Dino.Spinelli

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Hey everyone!

I've been really busy for a few weeks now and haven't been able to keep up with this thread.

I put in notice to my job of 11 years, only to find out on my second to last day that the guy that hired me at the new place,the guy that was going to mentor me into a engineering project manager, quit his job out of the blue. Now the new job has been eliminated and I have to go back to work at my current job with my tail between my legs.

Anyhoo, my priorities have been focused away from vaping and toward learning new (to me) project management software, putting together a wardrobe, and finding a new car to lease. So I'm back!

I don't have the time right now to read all of the posts I've missed, but Dino told me about a get together next Sunday in Cambridge, and I plan to go. Who else is going?

Did I miss anything good in the past weeks?

Good to be back. :vapor:

Nice to see you back Loomeye:)
 

loomeye

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BTW... I didn't see any mention of Madtown but this is a recent article on Wi St Journal about e-cigs.

E-cigarette debate heats up in Wisconsin : Wsj

The comments aren't very flattering either...

Found on http://www.reddit.com/r/wisconsin/comments/2fqiuh/ecigarette_debate_heats_up_in_wisconsin/

Nice find!

Actually they do mention Madtown:

Since Huffle Puff Vapors opened in January, four other stores specializing in e-cigarettes have opened in Madison: Mad Vapor, Puff Vapor and two Infinite Vapor locations. Also, Midwest Vapors opened in Monona and Madtown Vapor opened in Cambridge.
 

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Wow! I was so furious reading the comments at the bottom of the article! People are idiots!
My parents take up for vaping (for me......and they do not smoke or vape) and this past weekend my parents were at the county fair in the county they live in, and one of my family members (not close) tried to say there was anti freeze in electric cigarettes and that electric cigarettes do not help you quit smoking! My Dad told her that I used electric cigarettes and have become healthier and have not touched a cigarette since October 20! I love my Dad not only because he said that but he also told me "You cannot tell some people things because they think they know everything but in reality they are idiots and know nothing about what they are talking about" :)
 

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I finally put down the pink ice and twisted peppermint long enough to try out the berry ice cream today. I tastes as good as it smells! Another winner for sure Dino! All 3 are on my reorder list.

Berry Ice Cream is next in my rotation. Just wanted to finish up a little more if the Key Lime before I clean out and put in a new coil.
 
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