A bit confused. Are the effects of both salt and freebase nic equivalent at equal concentrations?

[boo2600]

I generally use 3mg/ml, and most of the time, I dilute that 50/50 with zero nic juice.

From what I've read in the DIY subforum, some people claim it's equivalent, while others argue it's not.

Could I substitute one for another at the same concentration without affecting my effects? Are they interchangeable? Some say they're equal, while others recommend using more salts or making specific adjustments. I understand the chemical difference between salt and freebase. What I'm not interested in is a heavy "throat hit" – some claim that the salt form can cause this.

This is probably an old worn-out topic.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Nic salt is supposed to have quicker and stronger effects because it gets into the bloodstream quicker/more efficiently than freebase. I can't confirm this from personal experience as I have never used nic salts myself, but that's what everyone says about it. That and it's not nearly as harsh on the throat as freebase so achieving throat hit can be a challenge at lower levels.

 

[somdcomputerguy]

From what I've read in the DIY subforum, some people claim it's equivalent, while others argue it's not.

If you want to read some more, here ya go - https://duckduckgo.com/?t=palemoon&q=difference+between+salt+nic+and+freebase+nic&ia=web

 

[Letitia]

I generally use 3mg/ml, and most of the time, I dilute that 50/50 with zero nic juice.

From what I've read in the DIY subforum, some people claim it's equivalent, while others argue it's not.

Could I substitute one for another at the same concentration without affecting my effects? Are they interchangeable? Some say they're equal, while others recommend using more salts or making specific adjustments. I understand the chemical difference between salt and freebase. What I'm not interested in is a heavy "throat hit" – some claim that the salt form can cause this.

This is probably an old worn-out topic.

3mg freebase nic = 3mg salts nic
Strength wise the they are identical to mix with.

 

[boo2600]

thank you!

When I left the vape community, salts were just starting to show up. I could have done a Google search, but I was more interested in the opinions of those who have personal experience with DIY. I do not believe that the information here has become redundant. It seems we are of a different opinion.

 

[boo2600]

I found this summary. It may be of some use to others with questions. From everything I have read here, 'freebase' would be the way to go based on how I vape. I tried salts tonight and it was way too much for me. Maybe a good thing for someone who vapes MTL.

Nicotine Salts Core Facts

• Will contain Benzoic or Citric acid for optimising
• Fast absorbing in the bloodstream
• Smooth in higher doses
• Limited flavour complexity
• Constrained cloud production
• Suits the mouth-to-lung vaping technique
• Potentially more expensive by volume
• Available in the highest nicotine strengths
• Optimal for newbie vapers and mixed users
• Works best with lower power wattage devices
• Can achieve cigarette-like nicotine hit with less e-liquid
• Longest shelf life due to slower oxidation

Freebase Nicotine Core Facts

• Contains zero additives
• Slower absorption in the bloodstream
• Becomes harsher at higher doses
• Maximum flavour complexity
• Larger cloud production
• Suits both direct-to-lung and mouth-to-lung vaping techniques
• Often less expensive by volume
• Available in the lowest nicotine strengths
• Optimal for vapers with low nicotine needs
• Works best with higher power wattage devices for the most effective vaping
• Potentially more e-liquid required for cigarette-like nicotine hit
• Shorter shelf life due to faster oxidation