A dollar for CASAA at check out?

[kristin]

There was one main issue on CASAA's end with this idea. If we can figure out how to overcome the issues, it'd be awesome!

There is no way for CASAA to monitor and vet all of the vendors who claim to be collecting for CASAA. (Meaning, consumers would have no guarantee that the is money actually is going to CASAA.)

A second issue is public perception that CASAA endorses or vets the vendors collecting the money, and/or is being funded solely by vendors and is actually an industry organization or "paid shill" that is not to be trusted.

Any idea how these things can be addressed?

 

[Cool_Breeze]

There was one main issue on CASAA's end with this idea. If we can figure out how to overcome the issues, it'd be awesome!

There is no way for CASAA to monitor and vet all of the vendors who claim to be collecting for CASAA. (Meaning, consumers would have no guarantee that the is money actually is going to CASAA.)

A second issue is public perception that CASAA endorses or vets the vendors collecting the money, and/or is being funded solely by vendors and is actually an industry organization or "paid shill" that is not to be trusted.

Any idea how these things can be addressed?

...seems to me to be more of a computer programming and money-changer concern rather than a matter of checking, verifying and allegiance.

 

[Katdarling]

Kopfstimmen, does your location have a nickname?? What does that word mean?

 

[wv2win]

There was one main issue on CASAA's end with this idea. If we can figure out how to overcome the issues, it'd be awesome!

There is no way for CASAA to monitor and vet all of the vendors who claim to be collecting for CASAA. (Meaning, consumers would have no guarantee that the is money actually is going to CASAA.)

A second issue is public perception that CASAA endorses or vets the vendors collecting the money, and/or is being funded solely by vendors and is actually an industry organization or "paid shill" that is not to be trusted.

Any idea how these things can be addressed?

I have used a number of suppliers (all European) that when you click to pay via Paypal, it takes you directly to the Paypal site. The supplier could provide a link that does the same thing but with the "Payee" for the donation obviously be CASAA. Not being a programmer I don't know the technical requirements or "ends & outs" but web sites have this capability.

On your second concern, I personally don't view it as really a big concern. To me, a vender providing their customers the opportunity to make a donation to a non-profit organization is no different than a B & M store providing a jar for donations to Jerry's Kids or St Jude's. It doesn't signify that the non-profit is being influenced by the vender. Plus, the donation is being made directly by the "consumer", not the vender. The vender is only providing the "path" for the donation.

 

[vang0gh]

No idea how to implement it with some checks and balances, but I really like the basic idea of it.

 

[swampman]

Im sure it CAN be done, its just a matter of figuring out how (but dont ask me )

I would love to see it happen though..I sure wouldn't mind giving a dollar at checkout every now and then.

 

[degnr8]

Honestly maybe bounce it off CASAA they would have more weight in contacting vendors about it.

I say if possible make it happen.

Absolutely

 

[degnr8]

The supplier could provide a link that does the same thing but with the "Payee" for the donation obviously be CASAA.

I think this may just be the solution. Seems the issue with accountability would only be if the vendor was taking the $ and then forwarding it. Of course with a direct link you could decide how much you wanted to donate

 

[Cool_Breeze]

Or make a direct donation, size of your choice, each time you place an order.

Donate to CASAA

"No PayPal account? Donate using your credit or debit card"

 

[Myrany]

WHy couldn't a vendor just have a link on their front page that simply donates directly to CASAA? The vendor never touches the money. It is CASAAs link. No Accountability issues and CASAA cannot be seen as a shill since the vendor is doing nothing but provide web space for the link.

 

[kristin]

I have used a number of suppliers (all European) that when you click to pay via Paypal, it takes you directly to the Paypal site. The supplier could provide a link that does the same thing but with the "Payee" for the donation obviously be CASAA. Not being a programmer I don't know the technical requirements or "ends & outs" but web sites have this capability.

Sure, having a link to CASAA's PayPal for donations is easy - we actually have a button that a vendor (or anyone, for that matter - bloggers, reviewers, affilates, forums) could put on their web site that goes directly to CASAA's PayPal account (bypassing the CASAA web site). It's integrating it with the vendor's checkout process with an order being placed that is complicated.

That actually makes me think some more, as well. If a vendor just has a link "Donate to CASAA" without any explanation of what CASAA is or does, how many people who don't know about CASAA would actually donate? Wouldn't it be better to send them to a page on the CASAA web site so people can learn the issues and WHY they should donate? If you are already aware of CASAA, why not just set up a recurring donation of $5 a month or something? I guess the $1 idea would be like a reminder to donate for members who don't think of it, but I would think those who want to donate would take 2 minutes and just do it via the CASAA web site. If someone is going to donate $1 say, once a month when they order supplies, why not just schedule an annual $12 donation directly?

It gets kind of complicated, which is why we haven't really put a lot of time into figuring it out. (Although, every time this has come up, we've said we would welcome ideas on how to implement it and no one has given us any suggestions.) What would be really cool is if vendors would just donate $1 for every order (maybe over a certain order amount).

CASAA definitely is not opposed to the idea - we just don't know how it can be done. If there is someone with an online store out there who knows how to integrate such a thing, we'd love to hear from them!

 

[thinkingaboutit]

Or make a direct donation, size of your choice, each time you place an order.

Donate to CASAA

"No PayPal account? Donate using your credit or debit card"

This. Now that I have my personal perfect setup, CASAA gets more from my monthly auto donation than if I gave a dollar each purchase.

No need to reinvent the wheel IMO.

 

[bulldog63h]

What about links to CASSA somewhere in the checkout process?

Looks like I was beat to the punch.

Originally Posted by wv2win
I have used a number of suppliers (all European) that when you click to pay via Paypal, it takes you directly to the Paypal site. The supplier could provide a link that does the same thing but with the "Payee" for the donation obviously be CASAA. Not being a programmer I don't know the technical requirements or "ends & outs" but web sites have this capability.

 

[wv2win]

Sure, having a link to CASAA's PayPal for donations is easy - we actually have a button that a vendor (or anyone, for that matter - bloggers, reviewers, affilates, forums) could put on their web site that goes directly to CASAA's PayPal account (bypassing the CASAA web site). It's integrating it with the vendor's checkout process with an order being placed that is complicated.

That actually makes me think some more, as well. If a vendor just has a link "Donate to CASAA" without any explanation of what CASAA is or does, how many people who don't know about CASAA would actually donate? Wouldn't it be better to send them to a page on the CASAA web site so people can learn the issues and WHY they should donate? If you are already aware of CASAA, why not just set up a recurring donation of $5 a month or something? I guess the $1 idea would be like a reminder to donate for members who don't think of it, but I would think those who want to donate would take 2 minutes and just do it via the CASAA web site. If someone is going to donate $1 say, once a month when they order supplies, why not just schedule an annual $12 donation directly?

It gets kind of complicated, which is why we haven't really put a lot of time into figuring it out. (Although, every time this has come up, we've said we would welcome ideas on how to implement it and no one has given us any suggestions.) What would be really cool is if vendors would just donate $1 for every order (maybe over a certain order amount).

CASAA definitely is not opposed to the idea - we just don't know how it can be done. If there is someone with an online store out there who knows how to integrate such a thing, we'd love to hear from them!

I don't think it would be "out of line" if CASAA contacted several of the venders who have been in business for several years and ask them if this would be possible and if they would be interested in helping with the "leg work" and expertise on how it could work. These suppliers update and change their web sites when needed for business purposes. CASAA's success can only benefit them. If you can get some of the small to medium suppliers to help, then at some point it might be easier to approach the larger suppliers. I'm thinking of suppliers like madvapes and Nhaler for example who were started by people who at one point were just vaping consumers on ECF.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

I don't think it would be "out of line" if CASAA contacted several of the venders who have been in business for several years and ask them if this would be possible and if they would be interested in helping with the "leg work" and expertise on how it could work. These suppliers update and change their web sites when needed for business purposes. CASAA's success can only benefit them. If you can get some of the small to medium suppliers to help, then at some point it might be easier to approach the larger suppliers. I'm thinking of suppliers like Madvapes and Nhaler for example who were started by people who at one point were just vaping consumers on ECF.

I suspect many vendors use hosted websites. Hosts may provide a framework within which the vendor organizes their product line. In such cases, there may be limitations inherent in the framework. Most vendors would know better than I.

 

[carldamnit]

I would think it would be easier than you guys are thinking. Hear me out.
No direct linking no "Big Brother", just the vendor putting a check box in the check out area.
The vendor would, on the honor system, send you guys the donations.
If a vendor was caught keeping the donations, I am pretty confident it would be go bad for them.

Can you imagine the check you would get from Mt Baker Vapor every month if you could get them to add this?

 

[wv2win]

I suspect many vendors use hosted websites. Hosts may provide a framework within which the vendor organizes their product line. In such cases, there may be limitations inherent in the framework. Most vendors would know better than I.

Both Madvapes and Nhaler did a major overhaul of their web sites. They are successful enough now that I suspect they can make changes/updates to their web sites whenever they see the need.

 

[WorksForMe]

I thought vendors were already doing this. Got Vapes used to do this. The last time I ordered from them(last March) there was a "Donate to CASAA" link on their site, They said they matched our donations. The link is gone now.

Check out post#14. Its a screenshot of their website back in February.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...esearch-246-00-raised-so-far-march-3rd-2.html

J.R.

 

[borboleta]

That sounds like a great idea, I would support it.