i was just watching a video on a disc golf channel i subscribe to and lo and behold dude held up a disc with an Mt Baker Vapor hot stamp . the discs are all Innova ( the worlds largest manufacturer ) and available on their website. he also mentions that MBV are big supporters of disc golf and to check them out. alternative sports meets other healthy choices. kind of made my day. mtbakervapor.com/search.php?search_query=disc&Search=