From all the other forums I'm on, it was too separate incidents. I heard about this lates one on the 15th. But believe as you wish.
A faulty battery caused an electronic cigarette to explode
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From all the other forums I'm on, it was too separate incidents. I heard about this lates one on the 15th. But believe as you wish.
Don't take my word for it but it should go unusually hot before it explodes ( most battery will just vent). But there is the possibility of it exploding without any warning if the mod is fully sealed with no where for the build up pressure to go. Most mods have a few fail safes to prevent that thou, like vent holes, protection circuits, springs that collapses if overheated ( which in turn stops the current flow). The detail of what exactly happens can only be obtained from the victim himself unfortunately.
are you sure it wasn't the same incident? the details sound a bit to identical. And i highly doubt something like a ego, 510 or 808 would do this kind of damage
Update to the 2 incidents - thread copied over
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/announcements-rules/269461-exploding-mods-update-february-2012-a.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/announcements-rules/269461-exploding-mods-update-february-2012-a.html
Damn. poor guy. this is a real bummer and has me paranoid now. my kgo dosnt have any vents than I can see. I just saw this story doing a google search. it's on the top of the google search results for e-cigarette and electronic cigarette. I was to scared to search the other words for them. that's the first thing everyone will see when searching. that's a real bummer and will for sure keep thousands on the cancer sticks. I wish the "news" reports would tell us what kind instead of showing a picture of a little njoy normal looking type that most people are farmiliar with.
I definitely don't think this is a good situation & you can read my earlier post in this thread, but what is the number of smokers that die FROM SMOKING (heart attack, hypertension, CHF, COPD, lung CA) each and every day?
story is all over the news but i doupt we will hear about what kind of e-cigs. More like a lawsuit against whoever sold it to him or manufacturer
Any information disseminated as widely as this one can only mean two things.
All the editorial staff of these organizations thought that it was newsworthy
or someone/thing/organization pushed it to BE newsworthy.
The higher probability, imo, would be the latter.
All the editorial staff of these organizations thought that it was newsworthy
or someone/thing/organization pushed it to BE newsworthy.
The higher probability, imo, would be the latter.
...hmmm... usually stuff like this gets pretty wide press.
When the Dell laptop exploded - the Youtube went viral - and the exploded iphone on an airplane went international.
It's a pretty serious incident that happened - and when someone lands in a burn unit through some randomly strange incident - it's going to make the news.
It certainly hasn't fizzled out here on the forums....
(and personally - I'm waiting to hear how the man is doing - if he's okay)
I'm still wondering if both are the same incident or are they 2 seperate ones, getting a lot of different information everywhere.
Hard to know - guess it is possible that 2 incidents happened right around the same time with the same basic details.
Incident Report 1
Reported on ECF by a member who is a friend of the man involved - info related by wife over the phone.
Victim was a man, alone in his study in the evening. Wife heard explosion and went to him. Study was partially burned - ecig parts embedded in mans throat and mouth. Taken by ambulance to ICU. No further details.
Poster has not returned with any updates or confirmations.
Incident Report 2 (several media stories)
Victim was a middle aged man, alone in his study in the evening. Wife heard explosion and found him with ecig parts embedded in throat and mouth and missing teeth. Taken by ambulance and later transfered to a burn unit in Alabama, where he was released either on Tuesday evening or Wednesday (depending on the story).
Fire Department reported the incident to a national database - no similar incident had been reported.
If this is 2 different men ... well ... I suppose that story is bound to break soon as well.
I'm not poking fun at the situation, but maybe this is all just blown out of proportion...
Possible scenario...
man vaping in his study has a battery over heat. Wife hears "Oh F#@*!". Pan Puts down battery and starts using another one, in hopes that its not completely fried.
Within a few min. battery bursts, shoots across the room and singes the carpet...
Wife tells a friend , who tells a friend , who tells a friend, and before you know it, its world spread media about a man who lost half his face to an e-cig...
Unless i see a video testimonial of the actual victim or at least a picture of him, this is what i choose to believe...
It's not the first time the media has over-exaggerated and put out false info about e-cigs, and it wont be the last.
If i am wrong about this scenario, i mean no disrespect to the man injured, and wish him a quick and full recovery.
Possible scenario...
man vaping in his study has a battery over heat. Wife hears "Oh F#@*!". Pan Puts down battery and starts using another one, in hopes that its not completely fried.
Within a few min. battery bursts, shoots across the room and singes the carpet...
Wife tells a friend , who tells a friend , who tells a friend, and before you know it, its world spread media about a man who lost half his face to an e-cig...
Unless i see a video testimonial of the actual victim or at least a picture of him, this is what i choose to believe...
It's not the first time the media has over-exaggerated and put out false info about e-cigs, and it wont be the last.
If i am wrong about this scenario, i mean no disrespect to the man injured, and wish him a quick and full recovery.
This is getting blown way out of proportion. Sh.. happens. People get hit by cars, people get lung cancer from cigs, people stub their toes, people vote for the wrong prime minister, faulty batteries explode. Sh... happens. I just hope this guy keeps vaping 
I'm not sure which video you are referring to but at the end of the ABC video in post #10 about the man in Florida, they say that the type of e-Cigarette he was using was unknown.
This is getting blown way out of proportion. Sh.. happens. People get hit by cars, people get lung cancer from cigs, people stub their toes, people vote for the wrong prime minister, faulty batteries explode. Sh... happens. I just hope this guy keeps vaping
I don’t see things as getting that blown out of proportion.
Actually, and I don’t want this to be taken wrong, it might be a good thing this story is in the news.
Whereas I would never want to see someone get hurt when an e-Cigarette Explodes in someone’s face, perhaps it has gotten the General Vaping Community thinking that Batteries and e-Cigs can cause such a problem.
I for one started thinking about it and took a good look at the Vent Hole in a Lavatube. It seemed Very Small. Compared to the Vent Hole in my Provari or Box Mod it almost looked like an afterthought. And not Very Functional. I couldn’t even blow thru it.
So last night I got out a Drill and Opened the Hole Up to .125” Diam.
I probably wouldn’t have even thought about this Unless this New Story was floating around the ECF. So maybe so good can come out of this by people talking about it.
I agree that this is starting to appear to be one of those stories that grows and grows with each telling. Given the media's inherent penchant for making things more "dramatic" than they actually are ( I know from whence I speak...I'm a cameraman) and the news mantra "if it bleeds, it leads"...I guarantee you there is much more to these stories than have been publicized.
First off, there simply isn't that much energy density in the battieries we commonly use. You "may" get the equivalent of a fire-cracker going off, but the description sounds MUCH more like he had a half stick of stumping dynamite in his teeth. When lithium batteries go into a thermal runaway, they almost invariably swell, vent, pop and combust. They seldom, if ever "explode" the way they describe it as happening.
Not saying injury isn't possible; it most certainly is. Losing body parts and having them blown across the room? I think I'd need to see photos of that before I'd believe it, and even then want to see the "mod" in question.
I guess what I'm suggesting is a reality check; is it even possible for this to have occurred the way it's described? It may be, but remember news reporting is not the pinnacle of objective provisioning of information. Who knows? The reporter could be a discouraged vaper who is unhappy with his drugstore e-cig. I have shot stories where the reporters spin due to personal bias has turned an innocuous piece into a firestorm. It happens all the time, so be somewhat wary of what you see and read
First off, there simply isn't that much energy density in the battieries we commonly use. You "may" get the equivalent of a fire-cracker going off, but the description sounds MUCH more like he had a half stick of stumping dynamite in his teeth. When lithium batteries go into a thermal runaway, they almost invariably swell, vent, pop and combust. They seldom, if ever "explode" the way they describe it as happening.
Not saying injury isn't possible; it most certainly is. Losing body parts and having them blown across the room? I think I'd need to see photos of that before I'd believe it, and even then want to see the "mod" in question.
I guess what I'm suggesting is a reality check; is it even possible for this to have occurred the way it's described? It may be, but remember news reporting is not the pinnacle of objective provisioning of information. Who knows? The reporter could be a discouraged vaper who is unhappy with his drugstore e-cig. I have shot stories where the reporters spin due to personal bias has turned an innocuous piece into a firestorm. It happens all the time, so be somewhat wary of what you see and read
These explosion news are of no use if very little details are provided leading to the incident. So far, the victim hasn't been interviewed and no update has been given, AFAIK, what caused it to explode, etc. It's not the forensic science we see on tv that we've read so far. No one from the e-cig business seems interested. We buy protected batteries, tend chargers and make sure they're not overcharged, and so on. That's all we can do right now.
I have to say that everytime I put my ego-T up to my mouth now I'm thinking twice, but at the same time it has me wondering... How did his face get burned and his teeth get blown out but nothing happened to his hands? When I smoke on my ego_t, I have to hold the battery with my hand to depress the button, so if the battery blew up to the point where it caught his study on fire, what happened to his hand?
Seriously??!!
This was an international news item - involving reports from the first responder, a full report from the fire department and a highly specialized burn unit in the US. It wasn't a single-reporter story limited to a local newspaper or an op-ed. It's been in print, on TV and reached around the world.
It appears to have been a mod that was used - but that's not confirmed yet.
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