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BigBen2k

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The whole vv vs vw debate..to each their own. That entire thing is lost on me. Kind of like fighting over the American standard vs Metrics. At some point I might give vw a try just to see what the bfd is until then....meh I am to lazy to bother with it.
I'm no fan either.

The short version is that if all your coils are exactly the same, VW will maintain the same vaping experience, but VV did that anyways. If your coils are different, then you'll be playing with the VW settings, which kind of defeats the purpose of VW.

VV is nice though; dial it in, and it'll maintain the same vaping experience, throughout the battery's depleting charge.

Without VV, you could have:
1) a regulated battery (typically outputs a fixed 3.7v at all times, regardless of the charge state of the battery)
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2) an unregulated battery, whose voltage drops ever so slightly, as it discharges. If you're sharp, you'll notice a cooler vape near recharge time.

Now... if you don't have VV or VW, but you want to tune your vaping experience, you can use coils with different Ohm ratings. More resistance (higher ohm) means a cooler vape. Lower resistance, results in a warmer vape.

So if you're happy with your gear the way it is (as I am with mine, unregulated), you don't have to do anything. If you "feel the need", then you have to choose between a bunch of different coils, or a VV battery.
 

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The whole vv vs vw debate..to each their own. That entire thing is lost on me. Kind of like fighting over the American standard vs Metrics. At some point I might give vw a try just to see what the bfd is until then....meh I am to lazy to bother with it.

Easy! VW is largely a solution in search of a problem that, for the most part, doesn't really exist.
 

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Easy! VW is largely a solution in search of a problem that, for the most part, doesn't really exist.
Here is my biggest worry. More functions equal more things that can go wrong. As in more components that can crap out. Maybe if more devices were one or the other instead of both. I have a very dysfunctional relationship with electricity. Have toasted more electronics than I care to admit.
On a good note, my aunt wants to go to a b&m shop. Since I've never been to one....I agreed to go. It's gonna be a long drive. She wants to try some twists, and get some better clearos. Told her it would be cheaper online, but I guess a voyage to go shopping is natural.We are women after all.
 

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vv and vw are the same thing really. You vary voltage according to coil resistance to end up at a particular wattage. Variable wattage is just that, set watts and voltage is automatically calculated according to coil resistance. vw is easier to deal with, otherwise i have to use my ohm's law calc app to find safe voltages for my coil. Granted some memorization will kick someday and I’ll learn this does that, but i just prefer vw because I know I like my protanks at 7-7.5 watts regardless of coil resistance. This is more like torque vs horsepower. one is calculated from the other, but measure different things. Doesn’t matter one bit in the end.

I started out with a Volcano Inferno starter kit. it was pretty good but it doesn't get used at all anymore. If I was to start over, I’d go ego-c twist and protank mini. The tank setup on the Inferno was a bit of a mess while learning but worked pretty well when all setup. However, the protank mini is easier all around and works great for me. Got me off my grape swisher sweets LOL still have about 2/3 of a box of those. Amazing I don't even want one and I was like a crackhead with those things.

I ended up diving all in fairly soon, but my personality is like that. i have a little OCD haha and love gadgets and tinkering. been playing with electronic circuits and electronics in general since i was 13 or so. APV’s were just a natural thing to get into. The only thing that has brought much frustration to me was building coils for protanks LOL until recently, but that is easily fixed by using stock coils. Good luck and hope she finds something that works and is comfortable to use.
 

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Hey timk, have you been to that new store in the tri-cities? I started with kr808, and used them for almost three months. Then I got the inferno kit. Ended up buying some cheaper non pass through eGos. I like them more, because inferno doesn't have the outer threads. Didn't even get my first vv or mod until July of this year :laugh: Glad you're off the cigars. I used to smoke the swishers from time to time, but stopped a few years ago. Couldn't believe how expensive they got!
 

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Hey timk, have you been to that new store in the tri-cities? I started with kr808, and used them for almost three months. Then I got the inferno kit. Ended up buying some cheaper non pass through eGos. I like them more, because inferno doesn't have the outer threads. Didn't even get my first vv or mod until July of this year :laugh: Glad you're off the cigars. I used to smoke the swishers from time to time, but stopped a few years ago. Couldn't believe how expensive they got!

Ya, even buying on the reservation they were expensive. I will say I'm in a hole financially comparing money saved vs money spent on vaping. I've spent alot on hardware and juices. Need to chill out for a month or so.

I have yet to visit a b&m store unfortunately.

I too like the egos more. The infernos are ok and actually have one setup with a drip atomizer and the other setup for cartos using their atomizer cones. They look cool with the cones, but lack of ego threads make them 1 trick ponies and their tanks suck. Protank 2 mini and ego-c twist has put the Infernos on the shelf though.
 

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Yes. I have 2 VV and I usually keep them at the same setting anyway. What is next buying a VW and keeping it on the same setting?

Yeah! lol After all this time of setting volts based on the resistance of a device, setting watts based on resistance doesn't make much sense to me. That, and the resistance of my coils meters 2.0 ohms today. It was 2.0 ohms yesterday. And five days ago. VW doesn't have a lot to do here. One can embrace the theory of VW, but in practice some people make wrong assumptions about what it really does. The same 9 watts on a 1.5 ohm device isn't such a great idea as the same 9 watts on a 2.5 ohm device. VW doesn't make for a singular universal setting.
 

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Ya, even buying on the reservation they were expensive. I will say I'm in a hole financially comparing money saved vs money spent on vaping. I've spent alot on hardware and juices. Need to chill out for a month or so.

I have yet to visit a b&m store unfortunately.

I too like the egos more. The infernos are ok and actually have one setup with a drip atomizer and the other setup for cartos using their atomizer cones. They look cool with the cones, but lack of ego threads make them 1 trick ponies and their tanks suck. Protank 2 mini and ego-c twist has put the Infernos on the shelf though.
My setup was with the carto tank. It leaked a lot so I went back to plain XL cartos and mega xl cartomizers. The bigger smok tech tanks suck on eGos. At least fixed voltage. The same brand makes a good eGo carto tank, and those are what I used for many months. It's been fun trying clearos and dripping :)
I hear you on the spending thing. Just hit the one year mark, and decided to try mods as a reward. On the plus side I only spent about $20 bucks this month lol.
 

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I was gonna, but I was reading what happened so far.:p

For me, carto tanks are much less fussy than clearos. And with a carto and a tank holding juice, they have a larger capacity i.e. less refilling. Clearos involved changing/rebuilding coils and leaking. I did not like them.Even with new choices like the Pro Tank and Evods, the same issues exist.

ETA: I meant to quote the comment about why no one mentioned carto tanks. Ooops.
 
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