A history question

[zikzak]

I've been experimenting with the vapors for 3 days. So far results are mixed, but not bad. Hopefully I can post a "how I changed my life" brag in the future. For now I just have a question.

I've seen claims that e-cigs first came to market in 2006 and/or 2008. I could swear that it was sometime in ~2004 that a friend of mine was igniting (with a lighter) some sort of disposable vaporizing gizmo that he was regularly purchasing, retail, in Austin.

Is my time-frame memory that far off? What was that thing and how does it relate to what I'm currently vaping? I bummed a couple off him and wasn't that impressed. They smelled funny and didn't deliver much in the way of what I wanted from a cigarette. That's probably the biggest reason that it took me so long to try the current breed of e-cigs.

Any old-skoolers know what I (think) I'm talking about?

 

[Stef64]

Welcome to ECF and the wonderful world of vaping. What you describe might have been a Premiere cigarette from RJR. I don't think it compares to vaping.

What are you using now?

 

[zikzak]

Yeah, that sounds like what it might have been. Kinda nasty, and not comparable to what I'm trying now.

I ignored the warnings about spending too much on gear and dropped > $200 on stuff to try .

I got an eGo kit from one vendor, a KR8 kit from another, a variety of cartos from a 3rd, a sampler juice pack from a 4th, and another juice sampler from a 5th (which has yet to arrive).

Day 1: Tried 2 different "tobacco" cartos in the KR8 because the batteries were charged. Taste was kinda plastic-y. TH was way harsher than I was expecting. I coughed a bit, and was a little discouraged.

Day 2: Tried both a coffee and champagne carto, one of them in the eGo with an adaptor. Liked the coffee flavor, indifferent to the champagne. TH still feeling rough with both. Managed to not smoke tobacco for a couple hours without any cravings, tho.

Day 3: Filled my first cart with liquid, "watermelon". No TH at all, and I didn't like the flavor. Spent the evening reading and vaping the various flavors already loaded. TH is getting more tolerable. Smoked one tobacco cig in the space of time I'd usually have smoked 5 or 6.

Tomorrow: ??? Try some more flavors, try to find the right TH that suits me, hopefully smoke fewer analogs? I'm not going to push myself on this. For me, the whole point is to give up the tobacco without the stress and withdrawal. Three days in, results are not too bad. Fingers crossed!

 

[Alac]

There was a "cigarette" that used a charcoal charge (for lack of a better term) that was inside a cylender containing tobacco.
The charcol heated the tobacco (slightly burning?) and it was these fumes that were inhailed.
I recently came across this product in a discution and I believe it is still on the market, but I have memories dateing back to the 80s of similar products.

The 2007 timefram is about right for the US, about 2000 other parts of the world for e-cigs.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Yeah, that sounds like what it might have been. Kinda nasty, and not comparable to what I'm trying now.

I ignored the warnings about spending too much on gear and dropped > $200 on stuff to try .

I got an eGo kit from one vendor, a KR8 kit from another, a variety of cartos from a 3rd, a sampler juice pack from a 4th, and another juice sampler from a 5th (which has yet to arrive).

Day 1: Tried 2 different "tobacco" cartos in the KR8 because the batteries were charged. Taste was kinda plastic-y. TH was way harsher than I was expecting. I coughed a bit, and was a little discouraged.

Day 2: Tried both a coffee and champagne carto, one of them in the eGo with an adaptor. Liked the coffee flavor, indifferent to the champagne. TH still feeling rough with both. Managed to not smoke tobacco for a couple hours without any cravings, tho.

Day 3: Filled my first cart with liquid, "watermelon". No TH at all, and I didn't like the flavor. Spent the evening reading and vaping the various flavors already loaded. TH is getting more tolerable. Smoked one tobacco cig in the space of time I'd usually have smoked 5 or 6.

Tomorrow: ??? Try some more flavors, try to find the right TH that suits me, hopefully smoke fewer analogs? I'm not going to push myself on this. For me, the whole point is to give up the tobacco without the stress and withdrawal. Three days in, results are not too bad. Fingers crossed!

Do your eliquids contain any vg or are they all pg....using a blend of the two can change things for you to the good. I prefer a 50/50 blend of pg/vg, others like 80/20, 70/30 etc....a matter of preference....
what level of nic are you using? that too can cause your throat to be scratchy..

 

[Stef64]

Yeah, that sounds like what it might have been. Kinda nasty, and not comparable to what I'm trying now.

I ignored the warnings about spending too much on gear and dropped > $200 on stuff to try .

I got an eGo kit from one vendor, a KR8 kit from another, a variety of cartos from a 3rd, a sampler juice pack from a 4th, and another juice sampler from a 5th (which has yet to arrive).

Day 1: Tried 2 different "tobacco" cartos in the KR8 because the batteries were charged. Taste was kinda plastic-y. TH was way harsher than I was expecting. I coughed a bit, and was a little discouraged.

Day 2: Tried both a coffee and champagne carto, one of them in the eGo with an adaptor. Liked the coffee flavor, indifferent to the champagne. TH still feeling rough with both. Managed to not smoke tobacco for a couple hours without any cravings, tho.

Day 3: Filled my first cart with liquid, "watermelon". No TH at all, and I didn't like the flavor. Spent the evening reading and vaping the various flavors already loaded. TH is getting more tolerable. Smoked one tobacco cig in the space of time I'd usually have smoked 5 or 6.

Tomorrow: ??? Try some more flavors, try to find the right TH that suits me, hopefully smoke fewer analogs? I'm not going to push myself on this. For me, the whole point is to give up the tobacco without the stress and withdrawal. Three days in, results are not too bad. Fingers crossed!

I dropped close to $200.00 on my first setup almost three years ago and all I got was an auto DSE-901 with a couple of extra atty's, prefilled carts and some juice. You already have two pretty decent PV's so you are half-way there. You just need to find the right kind of juice and before you know it you'll prefer vaping over analogs. And don't stress out if you find yourself smoking. Try to thing not about how many analogs you smoked, but how many you did not smoke.

Good luck and happy vaping.

 

[Lambo-]

The hardest part about completely making the switch for me was finding the right juice. Once I found a few flavors and vendors that I really liked, the transition was rather smooth and painless for me. Best of luck to you. Don't stress about the cigarettes you do smoke, but rather take victory in every one that you dont.

 

[cyberwolf]

Welcome to the ECF! You may have spent $200, but at least it was on good stuff that should last you for awhile. Like Stef64 said, many of us did not get much for our first $200 in this hobby!

 

[bnrkwest]

Try taking slow longer easy draws on your ecig. It helps with flavor and less harshness. Ecigs do not do well with hard shot hits like a cigarette does, anyway it may help with the the experience. bnrk

 

[dankie]

Hisstory:

The first patent was in 1964. RJ Reynolds released their first generation of the charcoal tipped cigarette in 1988 and removed it from the market soon after. In 1993 they released their second generation charcoal tipped product called the Eclipse and it was being sold as late as 2007. Both of these created a vapor but if you sucked to hard on it to get it started the charcoal would get to hot and burn the casing creating a horrible smell and flavor. Thats as much as I know.