A Series of Vaping Disasters... looking for advice.

[Dr-Itch]

Hi there,

I've joined this forum for a bit of advice – I'm having a real nightmare at the moment.

I've been vaping on and off for a couple of years now, but still can't find a set-up that really works for me. I owned a cheap Joytech thing at first, but it broke – I travel a lot for work, one time they made me stick my e-cig in the hold luggage, and it was cracked by the time the plane touched down and I got my bag back.

So I smoked a pack of regular cigarettes while making my mind up, and eventually invested in the Kanger Aerotank. That worked well for me... until a couple of weeks back it slipped out a hole in my pocket, and disappeared.

I smoked some more cigarettes, went back to the shop, and the staff recommended the Joytech eGo One. I liked it, it looked pretty durable, and I got a decent hit when I tried it.

But now, one week later, I'm having serious issues with it. I've got a 0.5 Ohm head in there at the moment and the thing is leaking like crazy. I just left it stood up on end for about an hour, came back and the chassis was covered in goo. The tank was empty. I refilled it and tried vaping, and it gurgled, bubbled, and spat hot oil onto my tongue.

Any idea if this would be fixed by using a 1.0 Ohm head?

I'm just really fed up right now. I need a good, sturdy set-up, that can potentially take a few knocks, but isn't going to leak all over my hands and spit hot oil in my mouth. I see people on here talking about the finer points of flavour and power output... right now, I just want one that works.

I tried talking to the shop, but they said they can't help. I bought the eGo through a 3rd party, so it seems the warranty is not valid. Added to that, I'm currently living in Bulgaria where stock is limited and I face language barriers every time I try to talk to the vendor. To make things worse, regular cigarettes cost $2 here for a pack of 20.

So should I struggle on with the eGo? Maybe I could try a different filter. Ideally I'd rather make this work than buy a whole new set-up. I've pumped a lot of money into these things already, and with the stress it's causing me by failing to work, ironically, I'm probably smoking more cigarettes than I was before.

Any advice, feedback or suggestions would be much appreciated! Thank you.

 

[Bunnykiller]

is it just vaping that you are having issues with, or do you have things go wrong with other things too?
Ive had very good performance from the SVD mod ( from Fasttech) and the RSST tank. I havent had any issues with those 2 items.. there is some maintainence required with vaping tho... not as simple as lighting up a ciggie.

 

[gpjoe]

Don't give up. You will find something that works. Personally, for me, my on-the-go set up is an iStick30 and Kanger Subtank Mini - for about 60 bucks. It works best as a direct lung hitter, but is reliable, compact, and keeps me from smoking at work.

 

[Dr-Itch]

is it just vaping that you are having issues with, or do you have things go wrong with other things too?

Haha, no – I just seem to be cursed when it comes to vaping.

there is some maintainence required with vaping tho... not as simple as lighting up a ciggie.

Yeah, I get that. I just don't really know what's required. It's why I've joined the forum, really – the people in my local store can't help me in English, so I'm bringing my questions here instead.

My biggest question at the moment is whether a higher-Ohm filter is less likely to cause leaks...

Don't give up. You will find something that works.

Thank you. As much as anything else, it's good to have a bit of moral support! I really, really, don't want to smoke, but... well, you know... nicotine.

Anyway - thank you both for the recommendations:

Fasttech SVD mod + RSST Tank
iStick30 + Kanger Subtank Mini

I've made a note of those, so I'll definitely look out for them if I do decide to go looking for a new set-up.

 

[Sir2fyablyNutz]

The coil size (ohm) would have no bearing on leaking... Improper installation would, a bad coil would, manufacturing flaw in the tank would. I vote for teh iStick 30W, Nautilus Mini/full size (1.6 ohm BVC coils), not as much vapor as a sub tank but great flavor, and it's my most trusted tank.

 

[Jace75]

I feel your pain when I thirst started I was using an ego pen then a kanger pro tank 2 and 3 and had all sorts of issues it was on an evod 2 battery everytime I put it down liquid everywhere but I carried on regardless moved onto the vamo v5 which I still have cos I loved it but still had gurgling issues with kanger tanks when every body else was raving about them which Is when I bought my first aspire nautilus and the issues were gone even tried building my own with an rdta got a .3 ohm on my first attempt which retired my vamo and i bought a smok xpro m65 after watching endless reviews, reading lots of discussions on products on fasttech I'm now using a Ipv3li with and aspire v2 running vaporsharks 0.15 TSC it's a massive learning curve but I can promise it's worth it.

 

[awsum140]

Doc, the first rule of vaping is "have backups for backups of your backups". Think about it, you buy a pack of smokes and have twenty backups to start with, and it's not unusual to by two or three packs at a time. Same thing goes for matches and lighters. Get at least two or three of everything and twice as much liquid as you think you need. That way, if something breaks you can just keep going without missing a beat.

As far as set-ups, the iStick is nice, so is the MVP and Cool Fire 4. Then again a Mini Invader is water resistant and shock resistant but uses replaceable batteries which means a charger, or two.

Since I found, and really like, RBAs I haven't used any of the smaller, replaceable head, tanks. There are a lot of dual coil ones out there though.

 

[Caterpiller]

No. The ohms rating of the atty/coil will have no bearing on leak potential.

 

[RipCigs]

For the ego:
As people have said, the coil resistance has nothing to do with gurgling or leaking. The amount and placement of cotton in the head does on the other hand.
I would try a new factory coil head, if that gurgles too then there's probably something wrong with the tank.

For new gear:
No gurgling and leaking + best flavor => leak resistant RDA with moderate dripping (veritas, nectar etc hold a good amount).
I've only owned 2 tanks, never had issues with Kanger MOW (with stock coils, my rebuildables would gurgle if i missed the cotton amount).
As for mods, lots of good ones out there. I doubt you need something above 30W, so probably ipv mini, sigelei mini, some istick (though i personally avoid them), cloupor mini etc.
It depends a lot on what kind of vape you want, how much you want to fiddle with your setup and how much you want to pay

 

[suprtrkr]

+1 on the iStick 30. Also look at the iTaste MVP 3.0. A few bucks more, but I think worth it. An Aspire Nautilus tank (full size or mini) is a better choice for vapers who don't want to go with subohm coils. If you do, or don't know and might one day want to try, the Sub Tank (again, full size or mini) is the way to go. Fasttech, located in China, has the iStick 30 (definitely get the one saying "authentic") with a Euro wall plug adapter for ~$35US, depending on color. The MVP from the same place is about $55US. The Aspire authentic tank (either size) $22US, and they sell the coils, too; about $10US for a 5 pack. The company offers world wide free shipping (customs duties, if any, are on you.) If you have trouble getting e-liquid, the Halo brand also offers worldwide shipping.

 

[Jace75]

Ipv mini v1 or v2 probably v2 in case you want to experiment. V1 has limited power at only 30watts but both have always had good reviews

 

[Jace75]

GearBest is also worth a mention.

 

[Threesixtyzero]

This is the exact reason I stopped. Everything was wrong all the time! But I came back a year later and kicked .... You might have better luck with an RDA. Won't break and you can get cheap ones for $9.

 

[djsvapour]

The eGo ONE comes with Joyetech's own atomizer. They can leak.

You could either try a subtank Nano (same diameter, more or less) with either resistance coil (0.5 or 1.0ohm) or experiment with another tank that works well on a 4.2 (3.7) volt battery.

For me, 1.0ohm to 1.2ohms would be nice.

The battery itself is good, powerful and slim for what it can do. Save the battery by finding a better tank/clearomizer.

 

[dcfluegel]

might consider putting a kanger subtank mini on the ego one - that is what my wife is using and it works well for her - no leaking issues - would probably recommend the 1.2 ohm coils... the ego one battery/ mod is a very decent one, but the tanks are somewhat notorious for leaking

 

[Msand]

Come on everyone. Instead of jumping on the "You should buy this!" band wagon right away. Why don't we help him with what he has already. From what i have read the Joytech Ego one kit is a decent setup.

You are more than likely getting the spitting from your coil being flooded. especially after having the juice run out of your tank. grab a piece of paper towel and hold it around the air holes. then blow into the drip tip. this will push the excess juice out.

ALL tanks can leak out. The same way yours did. Most times it is caused by a change in air temperature, being set on its side, or being in a plane and air pressure changes. not much you can do about it. Other than try and keep it up right as much as possible.

 

[VNeil]

From the perspective of maximum backup, I would suggest the Kanger Subox kit, which includes the Subtank Mini and a 50W mod. That uses an 18650 cell. You can buy Samsung 25R cells for 5 bucks each at... 18650 Samsung INR18650-25R 2500mAh High Discharge FLAT Top

Buy a half dozen and be done with it. And a charger of course. In the long run it's better than buying mutiple iSticks, which require overnight charging. I have an iStick 50 and I like it except if I used it all day I would need another. I'd rather carry the Subox and spare cells.

You still need to back up your mod. But a mod failing is occasional where depending on your vaping style running the battery down is an at least once a day thing.

 

[jandrew]

It could be a bum coil, or it could be that the atomizer head loosened when opening the tank for a refill. Clean it all out, try a new head, and ensure the head is firmly tightened in place everytime you open the tank to refill.

Best of luck with getting the Ego One functioning ... when it works, it works very well. I've had zero problems with mine for over a month now, but there are a number of reports of leaking tanks that no amount of tightening or fiddling seems to fix -- so it may just be a quality control issue with the tolerances in the tanks.

 

[Dr-Itch]

Thank everyone, I really appreciate all the responses here – it’s great to have so many people chiming in, and gives me a really broad perspective on the whole thing.

Come on everyone. Instead of jumping on the "You should buy this!" band wagon right away. Why don't we help him with what he has already. From what i have read the Joytech Ego one kit is a decent setup.

You are more than likely getting the spitting from your coil being flooded. especially after having the juice run out of your tank. grab a piece of paper towel and hold it around the air holes. then blow into the drip tip. this will push the excess juice out.

ALL tanks can leak out. The same way yours did. Most times it is caused by a change in air temperature, being set on its side, or being in a plane and air pressure changes. not much you can do about it. Other than try and keep it up right as much as possible.

Yeah, ideally I'd like to fix what I've got without investing more! This all makes a lot of sense, and after trying what you suggested - blowing out excess liquid - it seems to have kept the gurgling at bay for a while. Thanks!

For the ego:
As people have said, the coil resistance has nothing to do with gurgling or leaking. The amount and placement of cotton in the head does on the other hand.
I would try a new factory coil head, if that gurgles too then there's probably something wrong with the tank.

A few people have said this - I'm going to try and find some non-Joytech coil heads, see what else works. Interesting to hear that the eGo seems to have a reputation for leaking...

Also really helpful to know that Ohm ratings don’t cause the leaks - thanks for that, Caterpiller.

I guess the general consensus seems to be to invest in back-ups... and at the very least ditch the Joytech tank in favour of something else.

Doc, the first rule of vaping is "have backups for backups of your backups". Think about it, you buy a pack of smokes and have twenty backups to start with, and it's not unusual to by two or three packs at a time. Same thing goes for matches and lighters. Get at least two or three of everything and twice as much liquid as you think you need. That way, if something breaks you can just keep going without missing a beat.

You're right, that makes total sense, and it's probably where I'm going wrong. I have one at a time, then get stressed out when it stops working for any reason!

So yeah, plenty of recommendations here for replacement gear. I guess I'll shop around a bit, get a few more back-up bits and pieces, ready for any time my kit fails me. The iStick, Nautilis, Kanger and RDA gear seems to get a lot of mentions here, so that's the sort of thing I'll be looking for.

Thanks again everyone, I really, really appreciate all the feedback here - plus it's definitely reassuring to hear that a few other people have been in the same boat! Onwards and upwards...

 

[dcfluegel]

Come on everyone. Instead of jumping on the "You should buy this!" band wagon right away. Why don't we help him with what he has already. From what i have read the Joytech Ego one kit is a decent setup.

You are more than likely getting the spitting from your coil being flooded. especially after having the juice run out of your tank. grab a piece of paper towel and hold it around the air holes. then blow into the drip tip. this will push the excess juice out.

ALL tanks can leak out. The same way yours did. Most times it is caused by a change in air temperature, being set on its side, or being in a plane and air pressure changes. not much you can do about it. Other than try and keep it up right as much as possible.

personal experience with the ego one tank on my wifes ego one setup and subsequent personal experience with the kanger on the same mod led me to offer my suggestion... /shrug - your mileage may vary...