??? About Mt. Baker Vapor

[irwink]

Im not a fan. The juices were horrid and the customer service was even worse than that.

Owner thought I was trying to scam a refund out of him when I was just letting him know about my experience so others didnt have similar problems.

I was thinking maybe it was bad batch or someone mixed something incorrectly until he went full on d-bag via email.

Avoid the white peach and pineapple at ALL cost. It tastes and smells like gasoline.

That runs 180 degrees counter to my experience with MBV. I've found their customer service to be excellent. Many of their juices need to be steeped for awhile and tastes are subjective regardless. My current favorite juice is a mixture of MBV's cinnamon roll and peanut butter. A year or so ago I ordered diy supplies to mimic their flavors that I like. The best I've done is come close.

They also sell larger volumes of liquids. I have had zero complaints with MBV.

 

[67Tele]

For an MBV menthol alternative I would suggest: Highbrowbacco - Menthol

It could be an ADV for me. Their menthol isn't minty or flavored just wonderfully smooth and strong.

As has been mentioned find the tobacco you like and add menthol. I recently learned about Nite Lite Vapor
https://nitelitevapor.us/shop/catalog/browse?sessid=HvR02ls1vxkaiMwiLi995bbcOBo6KZteCfyZ9jUHzWjJymHKRwnK8HKu6Ac6sBk0&shop_param=

Ultra menthol drops. A little dab'll do ya....

 

[Uncle Willie]

I've been a MBV customer for some time .. I have used their Menthol for at least 2 years .. I get 2 extra shots, highest strength nic .. I mix it down when I get it with my own stash of PG/VG .. and, the USA Blend tobacco is also very nice ..

Customer service, if you need it, has always been at the top of any liquid vendor I've ever used .. and they deliver fast ..

 

[Mowgli]

I've been a MBV customer for some time .. I have used their Menthol for at least 2 years .. I get 2 extra shots, highest strength nic .. I mix it down when I get it with my own stash of PG/VG .. and, the USA Blend Tobacco is also very nice ..

Customer service, if you need it, has always been at the top of any liquid vendor I've ever used .. and they deliver fast ..

Liked for your sig

 

[Lynn Miller]

That runs 180 degrees counter to my experience with MBV. I've found their customer service to be excellent. Many of their juices need to be steeped for awhile and tastes are subjective regardless. My current favorite juice is a mixture of MBV's cinnamon roll and peanut butter. A year or so ago I ordered diy supplies to mimic their flavors that I like. The best I've done is come close.

They also sell larger volumes of liquids. I have had zero complaints with MBV.

I don't have any issues with their customer service, in fact, I love their live chat on their website. Everyone that I have chatted with has been super helpful. And they also have quick shipping. And their prices certainly won't break the bank.

Maybe I need the juices to steep longer or maybe I just ordered the wrong ones for my tastes. I found a local shop today that carries a lot of their flavors so I should be able to try them now before I buy which will solve the problem.

 

[Pheezer]

I like the caramel apple as well. I got it with a flavor shot as I did all my juices. The pear, though, is not vapeable for me. How long do you let them steep?

I don't actually steep mine any, Lynn. Vape it right out of the mail. Of course it takes me awhile to use a bottle as I switch my flavors up quite a bit, so it does steep some before I use up a bottle but I don't notice much difference.

I see comments about customer service issues as well. I've never had an issue. I usually order in the evening, it always ships the next day and I have it in 2-3 days. I've had much slower service from other vendors but never from MBV. I'll likely be a regular customer of theirs for a while.


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[Timactionfigures]

Nothing but good experiences from Mount Baker for me as well. I've been ordering from them for over a year and enjoy many of their flavors. Rarely do they need to steep for me, but that could just be the flavors I choose. Also I don't get any additional flavor shots and stick to 80PG/20VG. Works great for me and my Mrs.

 

[Pretzel Logic]

I like MBV also, Don't have anything bad to say about them, Actually just placed another order a few minutes ago,,, I like the Ices, Extreme Ice, White Ice, Red Ice, Blue Ice, Black Ice , Green Ice,,, While Blue and White are my favorites,,, They are all very good in my opinion, very simple, clean tasting and very refreshing, I've tried 80/20, 65/35, though 50/50 seems to work well for me,,, I've done 0, 1 and 2 extra shots,,, They are good right out of the box,,, I don't feel the need to let them steep before using though... only as they sit in rotation do they "Steep" . At 2-3 mls a day, I use about 60-80 mls a month, So about 4 weeks or so to finish a 30 ml bottle, The flavors do change a bit over that time though, but it's all good, Even bought some of their DIY flavorings and mixed a few bottles of my own with excellent results, Peach Ice, Strawberry Ice and Watermelon Ice so far,,, Next time I'll try mixing some Lemon Ice and Grape Ice,,, No steeping required, mix and vape,,,

 

[drysprocket]

That's what I was afraid of! I hate sweet tasting menthol tobacco. Guess I gotta do some more research.

The following is assuming you're just getting into vaping, so forgive me if you're not. If so, and If you do some research about tobacco flavors, you'll run into the following like I did: You actually don't like tobacco. I know, you don't believe it; but everyone told me the same and I didn't either. I spent $100's on tab flavors and hated nearly all. Turns out, vaping just isn't as good when you try to replicate a cig. It's weird. There are some exceptions, like I really like some semi sweet tasting ones, usually mixed with something else. But it sounds like that's not your jam.

If you haven't done your MBV order yet, I'd seriously try their Coumarin Pipe. It's really rich in flavor, sorta spicy, but still really smooth. It's the best that I've found of all that I tried that still gives me a tobacco feel. You should also research Heather's Heavenly Vapes, as they have some popular ones. I only liked one or two though, and it's really subjective.

But I'd recommend also looking into some fruit+menthol flavors. That's what I've liked the best, you still get your menthol craving and I swear---it's almost certain that someday you'll like this combo better than a menthol cig. If you have more questions, I can go on a really long rant about this, but that's the short version best of luck. I'm only you a few months in the future.

 

[EARWAX]

I've been vaping for close to two years & the funny thing about it is I had few problems with tobacco juices when I first started. But after I upgraded my gear from iclears & protanks to Nauitilus's & Kayfuns my taste buds were not prepared for the increase in flavor. Now I can taste all the funny notes in a lot of my juices and have to be more particular about my juice purchases. So you might be right, maybe I just really need to move on from tobacco flavorz

The following is assuming you're just getting into vaping, so forgive me if you're not. If so, and If you do some research about tobacco flavors, you'll run into the following like I did: You actually don't like tobacco. I know, you don't believe it; but everyone told me the same and I didn't either. I spent $100's on tab flavors and hated nearly all. Turns out, vaping just isn't as good when you try to replicate a cig. It's weird. There are some exceptions, like I really like some semi sweet tasting ones, usually mixed with something else. But it sounds like that's not your jam.

If you haven't done your MBV order yet, I'd seriously try their Coumarin Pipe. It's really rich in flavor, sorta spicy, but still really smooth. It's the best that I've found of all that I tried that still gives me a tobacco feel. You should also research Heather's Heavenly Vapes, as they have some popular ones. I only liked one or two though, and it's really subjective.

But I'd recommend also looking into some fruit+menthol flavors. That's what I've liked the best, you still get your menthol craving and I swear---it's almost certain that someday you'll like this combo better than a menthol cig. If you have more questions, I can go on a really long rant about this, but that's the short version best of luck. I'm only you a few months in the future.

 

[drthunder]

Not sure on the 555 menthol but i tried the regular 555 and it was literally the worst smelling and tasting eliquid i have ever had. The whole flavor shot thing drove me crazy because it took me many weeks and orders later to find the sweet spot for me personally. I like it when a company is confident in their product and sets it the same for everyone with the same flavor. On the note of menthol, i ordered 2 bottles of extreme ice and it tasted like a cough drop if that is your sort of thing.

If you are looking for a bit more quality at the same price range go with ITCVapes. They have a wintermint option with really good reviews.

 

[skoony]

i have used mt baker for almost a tear with out any problems.
i have been satisfied with every thing i have gotten for them.
some things to remember are nic strength,PG to VG ratio and Flavor.
when trying something new always try it at regular strength first.no flavor shots.
if its not right try to figure out what might be the reason. to much PG,VG or the percentage
of nic affect the flavors.could be not enough flavor.
they offer so many options even with extensive in house testing it would be difficult for
them to maintain a consistent flavor profile.

i suggest if you have a problem contact the vendor and explain as best you can what it is.
working together and,making adjustments could very well take care of most of these situations.
this goes with any vendor. if you noticed a lot of vendors do not offer the variety of options
mt baker does precisely because the flavor profile changes when as the formula does.
they don't say that but,that's the reason.different vendors have different suppliers.
this can affect flavors also but,by working with the vendor this can be overcome in most situations.
good luck in the future and regards
mike

 

[skoony]

I must be seriously missing something. I let them steep for 1 week before trying them and then waited another week. I put them in an Aspire Nautilus Tank with a fresh replacement head in it. I put others in carto tanks - all burnt at anything higher than 4.0 volts. I didn't get any flavor at all from most of them, like lightly flavored VG is what it tasted like to me *shrug* The Caramel Apple had the strongest flavor and it actually wasn't too bad. The Moo Juice wasn't bad either. The Albino Drake would be amazing if it didn't keep burning on me. I really wanted to like them, but they're just not for me. I didn't mean to knock the company or anything. I was just trying to be as honest as possible about my experience.

if you are getting a burnt taste from their juices its your equipment. mt bakers juice doesn't have anything in it that's not
in other juices. the chances that mt bakers juice is the only one that burns for you are zilch and next to none.

regards
mike

 

[smacksy]

if you are getting a burnt taste from their juices its your equipment. mt bakers juice doesn't have anything in it that's not
in other juices. the chances that mt bakers juice is the only one that burns for you are zilch and next to none.

regards
mike

Totally disagree with you there skoony
I got a burnt taste myself with MBV coconut and Carmel apple flavors..got ......, ripped out the cotton and rolled new cotton wicks, using the same build on the same mech mod I get absolutely no burnt flavor with the Vanilla ButterCream CupCake or BananaBerry Dream flavors from ITC Vapes. Same
Zenith RDA dual coils at .15 ohms on the same 26650 BFM ....Needless to say I think MBV juice sucks, and I for one, will not order from them again...



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[skoony]

Totally disagree with you there skoony
I got a burnt taste myself with MBV coconut and Carmel apple flavors..got ......, ripped out the cotton and rolled new cotton wicks, using the same build on the same mech mod I get absolutely no burnt flavor with the Vanilla ButterCream CupCake or BananaBerry Dream flavors from ITC Vapes. Same
Zenith RDA dual coils at .15 ohms on the same 26650 BFM ....Needless to say I think MBV juice sucks, and I for one, will not order from them again...



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well i stand corrected if your using low ohm builds.
most people are using 1.8 or higher,burning shouldn't be a problem.
propylene glycol is considered a slightly flammable liquid because
.. the flashpoint = 109°C
.. the autoignition temperature = 371°C

All this means at temperatures > 109°C, the vapor pressure of P.G. is great enough to create a flammable vapor over the liquid (a match will set it off!). AND at temperatures > 371°C, P.G. vapor will spontaneously undergo combustion if exposed to air WITHOUT a match.

VG is more stable in this respect.
Glycerin decomposes upon heating above 290C, forming corrosive gas (acrolein).In organic chemistry, acrolein or propenal is the simplest unsaturated aldehyde.Acrolein is described as having a piercing, disagreeable, acrid smell. Skin exposure causes serious damage. Acrolein concentrations of 2 ppm are immediately dangerous to life. Acrolein may be easily produced by the action of approximately 1 part sodium bisulfate on 3 parts glycerine by weight.acrolein (CH2=CH-CHO) has the peculiar odor of burnt grease.
regards
mike

 

[Frenchfry1942]

Like all the different vendors, I have found hit and misses. Overall, I go back.

As to flavor shots, yes I do for the fruit flavors and get extra shots. They are pretty weak to me and they have an ingredient that I think is the culprit. Not sure if it is menthol or lemon or what, but it overpowers and it creates a flavor similarity with all the primary fruit flavors. I do like the Hawk Sauce, though.

As to fruit flavors, I like them. I created a spreadsheet to track my, say strawberry, choices so that I can eventually know which brand I prefer the most.

Like all flavors it is subjective. I just worked to find ten good flavors from anywhere and then I buy them and also try a couple of new flavors. If you spend $15 on juice, MBV will send a free 10ml bottle. I figure that in 30 years I will have it all together.

It's a hobby.

 

[smacksy]

well i stand corrected if your using low ohm builds.
most people are using 1.8 or higher,burning shouldn't be a problem.
propylene glycol is considered a slightly flammable liquid because
.. the flashpoint = 109°C
.. the autoignition temperature = 371°C

All this means at temperatures > 109°C, the vapor pressure of P.G. is great enough to create a flammable vapor over the liquid (a match will set it off!). AND at temperatures > 371°C, P.G. vapor will spontaneously undergo combustion if exposed to air WITHOUT a match.

VG is more stable in this respect.
Glycerin decomposes upon heating above 290C, forming corrosive gas (acrolein).In organic chemistry, acrolein or propenal is the simplest unsaturated aldehyde.Acrolein is described as having a piercing, disagreeable, acrid smell. Skin exposure causes serious damage. Acrolein concentrations of 2 ppm are immediately dangerous to life. Acrolein may be easily produced by the action of approximately 1 part sodium bisulfate on 3 parts glycerine by weight.acrolein (CH2=CH-CHO) has the peculiar odor of burnt grease.
regards
mike

After reading your post about my preferable sub-ohm builds possibly causing the burnt taste I decided to put your theory to the test..I wrapped a 28g 1.9 ohm coil with new cotton and installed it in my R91 (RTA) on the Provari V2..Using that same MBV coconut juice I still got a burnt taste from 3.4-4.5v..only MORE pronounced this time than when I was dripping it at .15 ohms before...
Only with MBV juice do I have issues with a consistent burnt taste...My conclusion is the same.. I think MBV juice truly sucks...Many other vendors have better quality ingredients in their juice at about the same price as MBV and vape great dripping or using tanks.....Appreciate your replies ...

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[skoony]

After reading your post about my preferable sub-ohm builds possibly causing the burnt taste I decided to put your theory to the test..I wrapped a 28g 1.9 ohm coil with new cotton and installed it in my R91 (RTA) on the Provari V2..Using that same MBV coconut juice I still got a burnt taste from 3.4-4.5v..only MORE pronounced this time than when I was dripping it at .15 ohms before...
Only with MBV juice do I have issues with a consistent burnt taste...My conclusion is the same.. I think MBV juice truly sucks...Many other vendors have better quality ingredients in their juice at about the same price as MBV and vape great dripping or using tanks.....Appreciate your replies ...

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hm?, i wonder what mt baker would be doing so different from all other juices
as to make it the only one you seem to have problems with.
at 2,1 ohms,4.2 volts or 3.3 volts the only difference at the higher voltage
i get a stronger taste.the only time i get burnt taste is with old and or gunked up coils.
that goes for any liquid brand i might be using.
don't fool yourself into thinking mt bakers ingredients are of lesser quality than most if not all
other vendors making juice. other than proprietary flavor extracts there's not much difference
in any juice except the exact formula's.

regards
mike

 

[auxsend]

After reading your post about my preferable sub-ohm builds possibly causing the burnt taste I decided to put your theory to the test..I wrapped a 28g 1.9 ohm coil with new cotton and installed it in my R91 (RTA) on the Provari V2..Using that same MBV coconut juice I still got a burnt taste from 3.4-4.5v..only MORE pronounced this time than when I was dripping it at .15 ohms before...
Only with MBV juice do I have issues with a consistent burnt taste...My conclusion is the same.. I think MBV juice truly sucks...Many other vendors have better quality ingredients in their juice at about the same price as MBV and vape great dripping or using tanks.....Appreciate your replies ...

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Mt. Baker and rebuildables (RTA or RDA, High or Low res) are not friendly. Except for the GWAR juices, those seem to hold up fine for some reason.

For all their other mix to order stuff, unless you're throwing it into a Kanger, or a Nautilus on a spinner, just stay away. Far, Far away. I don't care how long you steep it, it just won't work in rebuildables. In my experience.

 

[Mowgli]

Mt. Baker and rebuildables (RTA or RDA, High or Low res) are not friendly. Except for the GWAR juices, those seem to hold up fine for some reason.

For all their other mix to order stuff, unless you're throwing it into a Kanger, or a Nautilus on a spinner, just stay away. Far, Far away. I don't care how long you steep it, it just won't work in rebuildables. In my experience.

I'll have to inform my sub-ohm dripping friends to stop doing that with their MBV.
They've been giving it 30+ watts and loving it for months! They so silly.
Thanks for the heads-up