About to convert to ecigs - scared to death!

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beebz

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There are several ecigs that are yummy. I only used them for less than a week. Like everyone here says, they don't cut it, they really don't. Take the advice, get a small battery(or even a stronger one) and a tank and vape away ! You'll catch on quick and be very very very happy.
I smoked 2 packs a day for 35 years and I am so very very very happy as a vapor. You'll love it.
 

djsvapour

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Ello everyone.

I'm from the UK, so hopefully you guys can still help with advice & stuff.

I am a 20+ cigarettes a day person & want to a) save shedloads of money and b) improve my health a bit (maybe).

I have been looking & looking & looking at what sort of ecigarettes to go for.

I have narrowed it down to:

GreenSmoke
or
V2

What I want is an ecigarette that looks like a real cigarette & will fool me into thinking that I am smoking a real cigarette - tobacco flavour & a good "throat hit".

Also good battery life so I'm not panicking about running out of battery life during a day.

I realise that the starter kits can be pricey (especially the GreenSmoke ones) but that's not the main concern.

I'm going to want a mains adaptor, USB adaptor, Charge Case (which GreenSmoke don't do I think), loads of batteries & loads of refills.

What sort of batteries should I get for the longest battery life without making the cigarette look ridiculous - like I said, I don't want those black/brown plastic things, I want to fool myself that I am smoking a real cigarette.

Sorry about all the questions, but I just want to go for it & ditch the real cigarettes to eventually save a load of money.

Thank you in advance for any advice you can give!

Cheers,

Ian.

Hi Ian. I am going to read this whole thread and come back. Neither of the brands you mention are going to provide the best e-cig experience for you. They are going to be expensive (really, really expensive) and the batteries are no better than others on the market for half the money.

In the meantime, look here

V1P PCC Starter Kit - Starter Kits

I'm sure my review will be on their too.
 

beebz

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i use ego batteries and ce4 s. plenty good enough for me and you can pick up the whole kit for a tenner in the UK.get two you won't be disappointed. tried cig a likes like e lites and they are rubbish and the refills are more expensive than smoking. good luck.
You're so right - the ecig look-a-likes are more expensive than the real thing. A big waste. Vape on . . . .
 

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Looks like I'm an hour late on the post... Hope you get a chance to read this. :)

As others have said, Cigalikes do offer a cigarette looking device, but, as most will point out, will not fully satisfy your cigarette addiction. Let me start off by saying you will not instantly quit. When you're addicted to cigarettes, you're addicted to more than just nicotine. Nicotine stimulate certain chemicals in your body that give you a "rewarding" feeling, or a feeling of satisfaction. Over time, your mind and body come to realize that if you light up and inhale, you'll get a feeling of satisfaction. You've "trained" your body that 1000 chemicals inhaled = satisfaction. When you switch from regular cigarettes to ecigarettes, you switch down to just four. One, hoever, is the main addicting chemical known as nicotine. Your body takes a while to switch from 1000 chemicals to just four. It will realize the difference, but it will be somewhat confused, since it's still getting the nicotine. Don't plan on quitting when you buy an Ecig, but challenge yourself to see how long you can go without a regular cigarette by substituting an ecigarette.

As far as which cigarette to get, If you're absolutely conviced that a cigarette sized apv is your best choice, then I'd look for something with the biggest battery with a backup charging case. Almost everyone I know who's tried "cigalikes" move on in a few months to soemthing bigger. Smaller size = smaller battery and smaller vapor. That's not to say they're without their uses, the smaller size is a lot more portable and generally worry free (save the short battery life). Getting a starter kit for a cigalike is ok, but I'd get an EGO style battery for when you're not so concerned about looks. Remember, the goal is to eventually quit cigarettes. The further you can get away from something that resembles one, the better.

As far as what flavor, definitely do what others have said. Visit your local Brick and Mortar shop. Make sure they know what you plan on doing, and taste their juice. Find one or two that you think you'd like. For added safety, you can always post any concerns here in the forum and get some advice, since I've noticed tha brick and mortar shops usually stick with a theme when something else might suit your taste better. brick and mortar shops might be a bit more pricy, but having a place to go to for immediate help is worth the money. When you buy online, you might get a better price, but the support will be slow or non existent. Also, they offer a good chance to try their juice and see what you like before you buy. Once you're comfortable with an Ecigarette, and have some knowlege behind your belt, then I'd recommend going online for upgrades. Even then, I still support the local brick and mortar shop from time to time, they can really help you in a bind.

My personal recommendation is to start off with an EGO type battery with a good atomizer. I think you'll find that a good compromise between size and ease of use. EGO sized batteries last at least three times longer, and you'll save money in the long run. I bet most of us vapers here have one around somewhere, because they're just so convenient. Even though we've moved to different styles, an EGO is almost always in a vaper's inventory. I'd suggest getting 18mg juice for starters, and maybe even higher if you can. You're trying to re-train habbits you've known for a while, so a bit of "shock therapy" might be good for starters. later, you can cut down on the nicotine, but start fairly high to begin with. Just be careful not to overdo it and "chain vape" in the beginning.

Anyways, those are my suggestions. Take them to heart if you will, but that's what I recomend.
 

djsvapour

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You're so right - the ecig look-a-likes are more expensive than the real thing. A big waste. Vape on . . . .

Yes. Let's face facts here.

Using purely a cartomiser system and not refilling WILL cost £1,000s a year.

V2, Halo, Greensmoke and the Kanger 808 (from some UK vendors) will perform reasonably similar, so it's down to which flavour you like.

They are all quite good for what they are BUT Poor battery life, low nicotine output, frustrating/difficult to stop smoking 100%.

In the UK, we have Nicolites and 10 motives and E-lites, which are more expensive and less good.

(That is done using science/maths not "hearsay")

The majority of review for e-cigs are little more than fake/bogus, or people just getting into e-cigs who think they have had their "eureka!" moment.

Choosing between all the "big name" brands is enough to scare me to death. One system could cost £10 a week, another could cost £40 per week - for the same product.

I stopped using "brand" e-cigs 18 months ago. I bought a simple eGo kit, stopped smoking and saved myself from spending £3,000 a year on the supposedly "top" e-cig in the UK. It didn't even work. They say 40 cigarettes per refill, but we know proven by science and user experience that the nicotine from a "40 cig" refill is actually nearer to just 10. This doesn't apply to fresh air fags (ultra lights etc.) but compared to full strength cigarettes, these products cannot match the claims made by the brands.
 
I'm not in the UK so I'm clueless on what you can get easily.

However, I'll add my opinion to those above--if you can possibly skip the cig-alike phase, do so. Mine lasted about a month before I had to move on. They were OK, but not enough to get me to quit smoking, and the cartomizers were annoying.

If you can jump to an eGo or eGo Twist (for variable voltage on the cheap) immediately, that would be great. You can get the smaller ones, 400 mA or 650 mA, to keep it from being too obvious. These days I honk around with 1,300 mAh in my hand and don't care what it looks like. :)

They'll be able to take any topper you can get that works with 510 or eGo threads, so your choices are almost limitless. You might like a clearomizer with good liquid supply that'll last you some time or all day. I use a Kanger T3 2.4 ml, but that's personal preference only (and I like my Kangers much better now that I wick and wire them myself, I should add).

With something like that, you just need a supply of e-liquid, which will be way cheaper than pre-filled cartos. You could even theoretically go into DIY liquids eventually if cost is a big concern for you (I do it because I can make higher quality liquid than I could ever afford myself!)
 

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Hello and welcome! I agree with indypilotcfi. I started with the V2 starter kit and very shortly, I was searching for something more. To begin with, the v2 cartridges DO NOT last as long as the ad says (like 1 cartridge is equal to 1 pack of cigs?) so I was frustrated thinking I must be doing it wrong, coz I was constantly craving more, even though I used the 2.4 mg cartridges. Also, the battery life is also pretty low. I agree that an EVOD is very very good for a beginner. Easy to fill, easy to use, and you can get a starter kit with 2 EVODS, a charger, and 5 extra coils for less than 1/2 the price for a V2 starter kit. As for the nicotine flavor juice, good luck! Absolutely subjective! Some say use tobacco, others vehemently disagree. Buy a couple of SMALL bottles of flavors you like (if you like banana, buy banana) and you will soon be able to determine what you really like, and how much you'll need. So happy you're making the switch, and I look forward to reading about your journey!
 

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Ello everyone.

I'm from the UK, so hopefully you guys can still help with advice & stuff.

I am a 20+ cigarettes a day person & want to a) save shedloads of money and b) improve my health a bit (maybe).

I have been looking & looking & looking at what sort of ecigarettes to go for.

I have narrowed it down to:

GreenSmoke
or
V2

What I want is an ecigarette that looks like a real cigarette & will fool me into thinking that I am smoking a real cigarette - tobacco flavour & a good "throat hit".

Also good battery life so I'm not panicking about running out of battery life during a day.

I realise that the starter kits can be pricey (especially the GreenSmoke ones) but that's not the main concern.

I'm going to want a mains adaptor, USB adaptor, Charge Case (which GreenSmoke don't do I think), loads of batteries & loads of refills.

What sort of batteries should I get for the longest battery life without making the cigarette look ridiculous - like I said, I don't want those black/brown plastic things, I want to fool myself that I am smoking a real cigarette.

Sorry about all the questions, but I just want to go for it & ditch the real cigarettes to eventually save a load of money.

Thank you in advance for any advice you can give!

Cheers,

Ian.
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Start with cigalikes they might do it or maybe not. If they don't try a cheap kit like this or buy the single. Vape shops carry them for more money. Cheap good juice here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...juice-1-99-120ml-juice-10-99-plus-15-off.html
 

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Ello everyone.

I'm from the UK, so hopefully you guys can still help with advice & stuff.

I am a 20+ cigarettes a day person & want to a) save shedloads of money and b) improve my health a bit (maybe).

I have been looking & looking & looking at what sort of ecigarettes to go for.

I have narrowed it down to:

GreenSmoke
or
V2

What I want is an ecigarette that looks like a real cigarette & will fool me into thinking that I am smoking a real cigarette - tobacco flavour & a good "throat hit".

Also good battery life so I'm not panicking about running out of battery life during a day.

I realise that the starter kits can be pricey (especially the GreenSmoke ones) but that's not the main concern.

I'm going to want a mains adaptor, USB adaptor, Charge Case (which GreenSmoke don't do I think), loads of batteries & loads of refills.

What sort of batteries should I get for the longest battery life without making the cigarette look ridiculous - like I said, I don't want those black/brown plastic things, I want to fool myself that I am smoking a real cigarette.

Sorry about all the questions, but I just want to go for it & ditch the real cigarettes to eventually save a load of money.

Thank you in advance for any advice you can give!

Cheers,

Ian.
You'll get lots of help here when you need it. So...Welcome! Think of this as exciting instead of scary. You should be pleasantly surprised at how easy it all becomes.
 
I've just been searching for ecigarette shops near where I live and there AREN'T any blatantly obvious.

There are supermarkets near me that do sell ecigarettes, but they are (I am sure) that they sell the cheaper thinner less satisfying ecigs.

I guess ecigs are only recently starting to be hugely popular in the UK, so it'll take time for proper stores who know what they're talking about to appear & be able to advise me face to face.
 

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i would deff recommend at least vv/vw mod and a good tank skip over the itaste vv crappy battery life if your on a budget get a 1300mah vv twist and good tank (protank, itaste 30s, vivi, smok dct theres many more) bigger budget smoktech sid and smoktech carto tank this is where i started 5 friends cause they tried the cheap evod or ego just didnt have any throat hit
 

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I've just been searching for ecigarette shops near where I live and there AREN'T any blatantly obvious.

There are supermarkets near me that do sell ecigarettes, but they are (I am sure) that they sell the cheaper thinner less satisfying ecigs.

I guess ecigs are only recently starting to be hugely popular in the UK, so it'll take time for proper stores who know what they're talking about to appear & be able to advise me face to face.

There are no vape stores in my whole country; but fortunately a few pharmacies do carry some stuff like cigalikes, which is what I used to get started; once I started, after a few weeks I was sure that I would be able to stop the cigarettes and just go electronic whether is was the disposable ones or otherwise; then the hunt was on for the most cost effective setup.

So check out what is in the supermarkets; remember, it helps to know what's available for a BACKUP; you don't want your backup to be a pack of real cigarettes.
 

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I've just been searching for ecigarette shops near where I live and there AREN'T any blatantly obvious.

There are supermarkets near me that do sell ecigarettes, but they are (I am sure) that they sell the cheaper thinner less satisfying ecigs.

I guess ecigs are only recently starting to be hugely popular in the UK, so it'll take time for proper stores who know what they're talking about to appear & be able to advise me face to face.

The luck of the draw with your location, I guess.
There are hundreds of vaping shops... and they'll sell "proper" e-cigs.
Rumour has it Asda sold an eGo kit for a while and homebargains also.

Wilko need to sell an eGo kit and get the ball rolling. :)

Boots/Lloyds are selling the new tobacco company ecig (Puritane) in their stores. £5.99 for one disposable.... ouch.
We (the vaping community) know about these products all too well. They are targetted at the dual user or the new user with promises of x amount of cigs. Very expensive (£6 for the same nicotine as about 3/4 pack).

Vype (also made by a tobacco company) actually declared the total nicotine available from one of their disposables.
The liquid was 18mg. The available nicotine was 11.6mg. The Yield is approximately 6-7mg.

6mg = 6 roll ups or 7 king size Mayfair. 7 fags-worth for £5.99.

21 cigarettes-worth of nicotine for £17.99. £17.99
 

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i want to convert to e cigs to im a new member of this forums
Hello and Welcome!!!

The community would love to help you out, but your post is going to get lost in the middle of someone else's thread. Please start a new thread so your request doesn't get lost. Go to the first page of the New Members Forum, and about the middle/lower part of the screen on the left you will see a button labeled + Post New Thread. Please start there so you can get us started on your particular situation.
 

JaxMike

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If what you want is a cigalike, I think that's fine. Yes, you'll probably end up upgrading, but that's likely to be true no matter what you start with. I started with V2's and quit smoking. Yes, I've bought some better equipment but I still use the V2's in public.

My only advice is to look at a "regulated" product; that is, the output will stay constant throughout the discharge cycle, so the "vape" will remain consistent, rather than starting strong and fading as you use it. An example is the Smokeless Image Volt: Smokeless Image | The Best Electronic Cigarette. I think the Mig Cig is also a regulated kr808d-1 system.

But, if you're more comfortable with what you've looked at, don't fret over it too much.

Oh... as to cost... if you go with one of these you should buy at least a small bottle of e liquid with your starter kit, so you can see how easy and sensible it is to refill the cartridges instead of always buying new ones... it will cut the cost dramatically.

Good luck!
 

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I started off in 2010 with the cig-a-like thing (dont even remember the name) when I was job hunting in San Francisco. I used them for about a week, still smoked then tossed em. Sometime in August of last year I purchased a ego clone starter kit for around $85 USD, again I was pretty dissapointed at first, I knew nothing about changing out coil heads or clearomiser tanks so I was vapeing on burnt nasty tasting crud for a while, still smoking a pack and a half a day. In late January I bought an Ego C-twist, a couple of Iclear 16 clearomisers and about three new juices. It was my eureka momment, I found I would smoke fewer cigs a bit at a time and I enjoyed the vape more and more. Before I knew it in mid February I was smokeing one cigarette on the way to and one from work. I had not even noticed I had reduced my usage that quickly. I decided I had bought my last pack and on the 26'th of February I had my last one. My wife and kids are still giving me the sceptical looks as they have seen me give up and relapse time and time again. (LOL I only now told them all the other times I had not actually quit but was really good at hideing it.) Anyway the better vape as well as my choice to spend a bit more and have a number of different flavors about has made this transition fairly painless. I now alternate between 10 flavors throughout the day alternating between 18mg nic to 0mg. Now the only issues I have are figureing out what flavors are in what clearomisers, I have on more than one occasion accidently mixed flavors which more often than not I was able to enjoy! My point is that a higher quality battery, toppers, and a variety of flavors is what worked and is still working for me. Good luck and dont be discuraged if it does not happen overnight.
 
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