Access to e-cigs associated with Decrease in cigarette smoking in adolescence

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Kent C

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The breakdown of subsets of data - showing a propensity to smoke/experiment is Carl Phillips type analysis and makes much more sense than some 'average data' sets and comes up with sometimes opposite conclusions like - ecigs are not a gateway, they reduces smoking for those most likely to smoke, and when state bans access, it encourage those 'types' to smoke instead.

This is stuff that most of us "know" innately (we were all 'never smoked' and experimenters at one time in our life), but this is a study that shows evidence that it may very well be true.

There's a lot of math and statistics to determine the subsets (did I say Carl might like this :- ) and no doubt that will be an area of attack, but their attack will be more on the conclusions - which they're really hate. They'll attack the methods to show the conclusions invalid.

And they seem to be accommodating enough to even go along with a pre-16 yr old ban on sales (iow, they're not 'unreasonable' like me and others here lol) - since the dominant age for 'taking up smoking/experimenting is 16 rather than 18 - since by 18 they've 'been there done that' and most likely are smoking 'vets'.
 

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Reaction from ACSH (Dr. Gil Ross) still misses the point that vaping harmless ecigs may prevent teens predisposed to smoking from becoming long-term smokers. Otherwise, pretty decent.

http://acsh.org/2015/10/electronic-cigarette-access-and-adolescent-smoking/

I suspected this - Bill G may not be 'all in' on this study - and even though I take the method as something that Carl P. may appreciate, he may not like the results either.

Those who have 'fought for' (lobbied for, wrote letters about) age bans are not likely going to support it and frankly it is where the split between TC and THR narrows. I'd like to see Siegel, Puddlecoat, Rodu, Clive Bates, Greg C/CAASA, and others' take on it. Rodu might embrace it but that's not a certainty.
 
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