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[RiverNut]

Personally, I like the idea of eliminating NR wire. Joining NR and R wire is a pain and not only is it an extra step, it also requires a magnifying lense for these old eyes.
Imeo, if anyone can design a more user friendly coil deck, it's you. I don't see why there can't be square posts with hole positions at different heights for thumb screws on one side and holes on the perpendicular side to slot your wire. Then use the thumb screw to tighten for an easy mechanical connection. You could have two or three sets of holes at different heights to fine tune your vape.
Make your coil, slot your wires at the desired height, tighten thumb screws, vape

 

[imeothanasis]

Ithaka dont have a bolt for the positive wire Cyber. It has an o-ring that keeps wire in place. The connection is more than steady because o-ring is pushed hard while you screw rebuildable part on the base of Ithaka. But on Ody doesnt come loose too, thats impossible. It comes lose only when you unscrew the rebuildable part from its base, thats why you see it unscrewed

Thank you for your detailed answer Imeo. I must agree that setting up those devices need eagle eye, a steady hand and tools (though some versions are with bolts).
I take special care for the negative wire to have a firm connection. What I realized that the bolt on the center pin fixing the positive wire can easily come loose. Is this something that can cause the jumping ohms? Will this be solved in Ithaka?

Thanks again and keep up the great work!

 

[imeothanasis]

I did that river in a construction that was very complicated and with many functions. Easy for user of course but having 2 pins laying around isnt the best design to my opinion. Do you remember a video about a new style of Ody that had 2 very thin tubes where you put wires in them? Something like Urq's design but you could adjust even the poles in height and in left right position. I really didnt like the way I had to connect wires. I dont see something better than NR wires style. I agree that connecting wires is not easy for older people thats why I made the premade ones and they are in stock always. I dont want to make something difficult for the user.

Personally, I like the idea of eliminating NR wire. Joining NR and R wire is a pain and not only is it an extra step, it also requires a magnifying lense for these old eyes.
Imeo, if anyone can design a more user friendly coil deck, it's you. I don't see why there can't be square posts with hole positions at different heights for thumb screws on I did that here river, but one side and holes on the perpendicular side to slot your wire. Then use the thumb screw to tighten for an easy mechanical connection. You could have two or three sets of holes at different heights to fine tune your vape.
Make your coil, slot your wires at the desired height, tighten thumb screws, vape

 

[erich]

I've been getting by on the Ody with just one NR wire and just folding the wire double and pinning it under the wick on the side. I've yet to have a problem with it grounding there since it's in constant contact with the metal. I must admit, I have a little trepidation about the Ithaka in that it will now require 2 NR wires. Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked about the additional features, but if there were 1Ω premade wires (e.g. 28 ga. kanthal) I'd be all over it.

 

[imeothanasis]

Ithaka will still be able to accept coils with 1 NR wire eric because it has 1 metal channel like Ody

 

[Tarkvemada]

I've got the newer Ody V2 from Vassilis a month ago when he re-opened the website and I'd say it's different somehow.. The positive pin doesn't loosen at all. I don't see any visible differences, but this Ody is way better than older ones somehow. I had no single leak off it in 2 weeks since I've received and started using it.

 

[imeothanasis]

positive pin was made to stay steady Tark, thats why I always suggest to screw the nut inside ceramic very well against the center pin. To do this, I keep with pliers the center pin that is outside the ceramic and I screw well the nut inside ceramic

I am glad that you liked the new pieces

 

[kc13]

Hi Eric,
How exactly do you rig your oddy with just one NR wire????

 

[billyapd21]

Hi Eric,
How exactly do you rig your oddy with just one NR wire????

You can only do it with the v2. When you rest the r wire against the metal channel it grounds it to that point.

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[kc13]

You can only do it with the v2. When you rest the r wire against the metal channel it grounds it to that point.

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I understand that part - but what wire are you wrapping around the wick?

 

[yankeebobo]

I understand that part - but what wire are you wrapping around the wick?

You wrap it the exact same kc. Nr in the ceramic channel, at joint start wrapping the R around wick, and the R continues down metal channel.

 

[kc13]

You wrap it the exact same kc. Nr in the ceramic channel, at joint start wrapping the R around wick, and the R continues down metal channel.

thanks Yankeebobo...but why did Eric say he used only one wire? - was it because he wasn't putting the NR down both sides and then the R around the wick

 

[yankeebobo]

thanks Yankeebobo...but why did Eric say he used only one wire? - was it because he wasn't putting the NR down both sides and then the R around the wick

It's one legged setup.

Two NR wires is:
---------++++++-------
With the positive R wire wrapped around the wick.

One legged wire is :
--------++++++++++++++
Now you set that up the same, NR up ceramic channel and start the wrap. Maybe you will do two wraps, maybe 3, maybe 4. You will try and decide based on ohm read out. The rest of the R wire that's left goes down the metal channel as if it was NR. It is just one joint instead of two.

There is no second NR. R goes around the wick like always, just the leftover continues down the channel. And that is what Eric likely meant by one wire. I use this setup regularly. It works great.

 

[kc13]

It's one legged setup.

Two NR wires is:
---------++++++-------
With the positive R wire wrapped around the wick.

One legged wire is :
--------++++++++++++++
Now you set that up the same, NR up ceramic channel and start the wrap. Maybe you will do two wraps, maybe 3, maybe 4. You will try and decide based on ohm read out. The rest of the R wire that's left goes down the metal channel as if it was NR. It is just one joint instead of two.

There is no second NR. R goes around the wick like always, just the leftover continues down the channel. And that is what Eric likely meant by one wire. I use this setup regularly. It works great.

Thank you thank you, thank you - can't wait to try this as it seems more stable than the 2 wire method I've been using - I get a jump in ohms for no conceivable reason.

 

[yankeebobo]

Just keep in mind that you STILL have to make sure it grounds securely. It can jump so you have to secure that contact to the metal channel.

 

[kc13]

Just keep in mind that you STILL have to make sure it grounds securely. It can jump so you have to secure that contact to the metal channel.

isn't placing it under the wick sufficient?

 

[yankeebobo]

As long as you hold the wire against the channel, lay the wick on top, and secure it with the nut it's fine. All I'm cautioning is the wire popping up from under the wick. This is more prone to happen if you trim the wire too soon. If you trim it all and then go to secure it, the wire can gave a tendency to curl up over the wick. So secure it all, put the nut on, , then trim the wire and wick. By that point, the wire is secure.

 

[kc13]

As long as you hold the wire against the channel, lay the wick on top, and secure it with the nut it's fine. All I'm cautioning is the wire popping up from under the wick. This is more prone to happen if you trim the wire too soon. If you trim it all and then go to secure it, the wire can gave a tendency to curl up over the wick. So secure it all, put the nut on, , then trim the wire and wick. By that point, the wire is secure.

Thank you again for all your expertise....

 

[yankeebobo]

I don't want to leave out anyone but I know that there is a guy here (Bishopheals) that has tons of videos that will help with many many different setups. Definitely seek those out.

 

[erich]

Hey, sorry, I didn't check this thread yesterday. I make them with only 1 *NR* wire, and 1 R wire... as opposed to using 2 NR wires and 1 R wire like a lot of the videos. Sorry if that wasn't clear. They end up like this