ACTUAL 30A Continuous for ipv3/mechs?

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Are there any readily available 30A+ continuous batteries on the market right now? It seems like every week we see a new battery with false advertising on the label. batteries are coming out with 30A stamps when in reality that's the pulse spec and not the continuous. I'd like to buy a quantity of batteries for my VW and mechs but jeez all this junk coming out is less than 30 in actuality, and obviously Sony's are out of the question. I saw the Xtar vtc4 rewrap but they're too long for my gear. Anyone found something realizable in the past month? I can't sit around hoping Sony will release something, and I really don't want to buy fakes which seems to be all that's around.
 

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The XTAR re-wraps fit in my IPV2 and Sigelei 100. Have you tried putting some in your IPV3?

I have some OEM VTC4 cells on the way. I won't post the source yet in case they aren't genuine cells. I've been burned twice in the last couple of weeks. Once for fake VTC5s (admittedly from a vendor whose reputation I should have looked into before ordering) and this week I received what I believe to be fake VTC4s from what I thought was a reputable vendor. I guess I'm kind of an idiot for continually ordering Sony cells these days. But, if the two I ordered on Monday turn out to be the real deal, I'll post the source.

XTARs in the Sig 100 and IPV2:

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Thanks for the replies! Well in all honesty I have not yet ordered my IPV3 but I will be shortly. I just don't want to stress the battery terminals with the Xtars (maybe it won't be that bad idk), as I will most likely be using different brands if better ones come out. All the recommendations are great guys, thanks, keep em coming!
 

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I second Kemosabe's comment on the LG HE2s. I work at a B&M and when Sonys became scarce we took on MXJOs as our primary mech/high end regulated box batteries.

I have always used VTC5s exclusively and recently bought out my stores VTC4s and a couple MXJO batts. After a bit of side by side testing I'm thoroughly satisfied with them.

The yellow MXJO cells are rewrapped HE2s, rated for 20a continuous and 35a pulse. I've been running them on a .18 build with no issue or any out of the normal amount of heat. Life is generally better than the VTC4s also.

The new Imren 32/38 batteries are nice for boxes, but I've found the life is crap in a mech, even though they're 2600mAh cells.
 

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Ronnbert sir this is why you can't believe everything you've read on a website, also why Sony doesn't want vapers using their batteries. Maximum discharge rate are based on the maximum current the cell can deliver through its entire capacity while remaining under 100C (up for debate, some say it's 60C, others 80C) without any additional cooling. Take a look at this pdf- http://www.powerstream.com/p/us18650vtc5-vtc5.pdf The VTC5 hits just under 80C at 20A maximum continuous discharge rate, not 30A. 25A pushes them over 100C, 30A over 120C. The 30A rating is for active cooling only.

How many batteries have you seen rated for 35A or above on a site, only to find out that's a pulse or gross exaggeration? It's been going on for years. The LG HE2, Samsung 25R, AW 2200mah IMR, and Sony VCT 18650 cells are all rated for 20A continuous.
 

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Ronnbert sir this is why you can't believe everything you've read on a website, also why Sony doesn't want vapers using their batteries. Maximum discharge rate are based on the maximum current the cell can deliver through its entire capacity while remaining under 100C (up for debate, some say it's 60C, others 80C) without any additional cooling. Take a look at this pdf- http://www.powerstream.com/p/us18650vtc5-vtc5.pdf The VTC5 hits just under 80C at 20A maximum continuous discharge rate, not 30A. 25A pushes them over 100C, 30A over 120C. The 30A rating is for active cooling only.

How many batteries have you seen rated for 35A or above on a site, only to find out that's a pulse or gross exaggeration? It's been going on for years. The LG HE2, Samsung 25R, AW 2200mah IMR, and Sony VCT 18650 cells are all rated for 20A continuous.

While I understand you are looking out for my best interests, the PV rating was a continuous rating, not a pulse (info from the PV website). I was very skeptical myself, since I assumed they were 20A cont. We sell these where I work and I wanted to verify the continuous rating before I sold them, and wanted to verify our info was correct.

Also, I preach battery safety and fully understanding ohms law to anyone even CONSIDERING a mechanical or even higher wattage box mod. I tell them to do their homework before they purchase, and point them toward ECF and baditudes blogs as a starting point. Once they come back with the needed knowledge, I show them that it is possible to get a satisfying vape without going super sub-ohm.

I personally have never gone below .212 ohms (my lowest build) and have recently been enjoying my .45 ohm build. I also factor in a 10-25% buffer if I even think about approaching any limit (and usually wind up going with a higher ohm than I originally plan to be safe and not sorry).

While I appreciate your looking out for a fellow vaper, I rarely even dip my toes into the 15+ amp pool. I will give that link a good couple reads when it is not 3am.

Also, just wanted to add that I scoff at any 35 amp rating and immeadiately write it off as pulse, and am weary of a 30 amp rating.

You do bring up a good point though: when should we expect cooling features in box mods? Maybe take some notes from PC tower cooling systems?

One final note: this is also on a website, nice paradox you have going there ;)

Cheers!
 
Ronnbert sir this is why you can't believe everything you've read on a website, also why Sony doesn't want vapers using their batteries. Maximum discharge rate are based on the maximum current the cell can deliver through its entire capacity while remaining under 100C (up for debate, some say it's 60C, others 80C) without any additional cooling. Take a look at this pdf- http://www.powerstream.com/p/us18650vtc5-vtc5.pdf The VTC5 hits just under 80C at 20A maximum continuous discharge rate, not 30A. 25A pushes them over 100C, 30A over 120C. The 30A rating is for active cooling only.

How many batteries have you seen rated for 35A or above on a site, only to find out that's a pulse or gross exaggeration? It's been going on for years. The LG HE2, Samsung 25R, AW 2200mah IMR, and Sony VCT 18650 cells are all rated for 20A continuous.

So you're saying the IPV3 either has no battery choices available or uses a 30A pulse to function as it was built?
 
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