I am also an ex-smoker of 40+ years @ 2 packs a day. A co-worker and member here hooked me up with a VAMO variable voltage PV about a year ago. I mainly bought it as substitute for analogs to get me thru a business trip. It worked for me then, but I wasn't ready to quit mentally. I recently found out I have peripheral artery disease and that changed everything about my mindset. I now rely on and thoroughly enjoy my Vamo. I recommend using the strongest nicotine juice you can find and only buy high quality batteries. Advice: Don't run out of batteries! I am sure my next step is to buy a back-up Vamo or similar... Good Luck!
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'nough said...really...as long as you start from somewhere you'll soon enough find what suits you best...varied flavours throughout the day just might keep your mind off the rolling papers...glue can't be good for you either.
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+1 on the Vamo V5 as a good starter kit as well as a kit to be used for a long time. IMHO it's the best in the lower cost systems you can buy. I been vaping for 3.5 years and started with 24mg nic of menthol flavoring. The 1st day I got my system from Puresmoker, I quit cigs all together. 1st day, no BS! The menthol flavor from them tasted very close to a ciggy and at 24 mg it had the throat hit I needed to get me off cigs for good. They've closed since then and I've been searching for a good menthol juice most similar to cigs and I found one. Mr. E's menthol is the bomb. I also want to stress getting a good system that'll give you lots of vapor like the Vamo V5. Most people I know that couldn't kick the habit went with "starter kits" - they went back to cigs in no time. Get the Vamo - awesome performance at about $50 - 60 or so - almost nothing in comparison to what it does. My first system was a mechanical and it cost me about $130.
BTW, I've been a smoker for over 30 years since I quit on the 1st day vaping!
BTW, I've been a smoker for over 30 years since I quit on the 1st day vaping!
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OK. You can buy a Joyetech "Twist" batteries from a number of places. They are £25.00 compared to £17.99. (Unless you can find discount). The best I can find is £24.99 less 10%.
If you've worked out the clearomiser/cartomiser business, then you'll know that choosing not to fill is the expensive option.
Just remember that regardless of the brand you choose, cartomizers are refillable. You can top-up the "popular" brands for 25p rather than spending £2,£3 etc. on a fresh one. You can refill a few times, probably more with a top-quality cartomiser.
You could of course buy cartomisers at £1 a refill and take the opinion that even 3 a day is not expensive.
(How much did we spend on baccy?
)For long-term value, filling is a no-brainer (for me) but my Dad (for example) can't do it so he uses tobacco cartomisers and throws them away.
A Vision Spinner battery (plus a bog standard spare) with a stock of 510 cartomisers (prefilled) would be a good buy.
Oh, and in relation to nicotine yield.
It's not possible to get more than 80-90% of the liquid out of the cartomiser. Call it 90%
The yield from vaping is somewhere between a 3rd and 1/2 of the liquid used. Call it 1/2
An 18mg cartomiser will "give you" 8mg (very approx...) of nicotine. For me, rolling cigs, that's the same as 8 cigs max.
It's not possible to get more than 80-90% of the liquid out of the cartomiser. Call it 90%
The yield from vaping is somewhere between a 3rd and 1/2 of the liquid used. Call it 1/2
An 18mg cartomiser will "give you" 8mg (very approx...) of nicotine. For me, rolling cigs, that's the same as 8 cigs max.
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Good variable voltage batteries are spinners, 1300mah.
A decent mod would be a tesla. well built not expensive, just don't get a kit because you get landed with crappy batteries and charger.
Try and get aw imr batteries, much more reliable than most others
Protanks are a pretty good start but don't work too well with pg, propylene glycol liquids, work best with vg, vegetable glycerine. A mix of both apparently works quite well just as long as the liquid isn't too thin.
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Good variable voltage batteries are spinners, 1300mah.
A decent mod would be a tesla. well built not expensive, just don't get a kit because you get landed with crappy batteries and charger.
Try and get aw imr batteries, much more reliable than most others
Protanks are a pretty good start but don't work too well with pg, propylene glycol liquids, work best with vg, vegetable glycerine. A mix of both apparently works quite well just as long as the liquid isn't too thin.
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Paradise vape is a good site for liquids. Plenty of flavours to choose from. You have a choice of pg/vg ratios too as well as nicotine variations up to 36mg, most sites only offer up to 24mg.
Again, deleted duplicate post. ??????. Like my brain, this site sometimes has a mind of it's own.
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Ya think maybe they're starting to slip some mikey into the pg supply...I'm losing some brain cells too...time to put the breathing stick down and get out for some fresh air...^/^
I was a pack and a half a day smoker. I managed to quit with a 650 mAh, variable volt ego type battery that acted as a passthrough when it needed to be charged (can vape while it's charging). At the least, you should definitely look at variable volt options. I vaped through cigarette cravings by cranking up the power. Also, keep at least one clearomiser or cartomiser full of higher nic level juice then you usually vape for an extra kick when you need it.
Refillable options really are the best options. This way, you are not limited in flavor choices. I would recommend a cartotank. They are plastic or glass tanks that fit around a cartoniser with holes punched in them to allow more liquid into the carto as you vape. They deliver superior taste over the clearomisers, and the cartos last loner because the tank of liquid keeps them moist. The larger the tank, the less you have to refill. They are next to no maintenance either. Once a carto goes bad, you toss it.
As you smoked more then me, I recommend going for one of the larger mods others have posted, or perhaps the MVP 2, which had a 2600 mAh battery. Mine lasts me for two or more days. It gives you a good, consistant, vape and allows you to adjust volts OR watts. They are very affordable. If you don't want a box mod like that, you could also look into the iTaste VV v3. Shares all the same functions as an MVP 2, but in an ego sized form with an 800 mAh battery. If you go ego sized, get 2, however both the VV v3 and the MVP 2 are passthrough so you can vape while they are charging as well.
Refillable options really are the best options. This way, you are not limited in flavor choices. I would recommend a cartotank. They are plastic or glass tanks that fit around a cartoniser with holes punched in them to allow more liquid into the carto as you vape. They deliver superior taste over the clearomisers, and the cartos last loner because the tank of liquid keeps them moist. The larger the tank, the less you have to refill. They are next to no maintenance either. Once a carto goes bad, you toss it.
As you smoked more then me, I recommend going for one of the larger mods others have posted, or perhaps the MVP 2, which had a 2600 mAh battery. Mine lasts me for two or more days. It gives you a good, consistant, vape and allows you to adjust volts OR watts. They are very affordable. If you don't want a box mod like that, you could also look into the iTaste VV v3. Shares all the same functions as an MVP 2, but in an ego sized form with an 800 mAh battery. If you go ego sized, get 2, however both the VV v3 and the MVP 2 are passthrough so you can vape while they are charging as well.
A heavy smoker you need good power to keep up and not have to charge change batteries all day. Itaste vv3 is a good balance in features and power. If you like it, it has smooth power output and can be found as low as 25.00. But remember you need some kind of backup. MVP is a good choice. I use a sigelei zmax v3 with 18650 efest imrs. 70.00 with charger and batteries. It's the shorter of the big battery vv/vw mods. Tesla is good too.
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with 900mAh or better ego-type batteries.
Kanger evod or iclear16 is what I foist on newbies
Especially the latter is nice, as it has 2 heating coils and produces more vapor and more oomph. Disadvantage is that like V8 engine compared to a run-of-the-mill 4-cylinder : it is a downright liquid guzzler.
But if you manage to stay away rom the analogs with that kit you're showing, then this is one notch higher up the ladder without blowing the budget. Doan worry, the provaristi are going to flock to this thread in no time
good choice .this is rig this of choice when recommending to 2nd level vapers. EVOD and variable battery like the ego TWIST or equivalent . but i would seggest getting an 1100 mah ego type battery from a B/M or another reliable source.. you will like the longer baterry life, trudt me.
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OK well cheers again for all the replies, from what everyone has said so far, I might go for the Vision Spinner 1300mAh starter kit with an iclear 16 clearomizer. The kit is £62 here. Once I've actually got a clue what I'm doing I might upgrade to a mod or add in other components.
A couple of questions I've been meaning to ask, I take it all cartomizers/clearomizers/atomizers are refillable? Also say that the iclear 16 is refillable which I presume it is, how many times can I refill it before I need a new one? And can I use any type or brand of eliquid in any device (even though some types might work better)?
A couple of questions I've been meaning to ask, I take it all cartomizers/clearomizers/atomizers are refillable? Also say that the iclear 16 is refillable which I presume it is, how many times can I refill it before I need a new one? And can I use any type or brand of eliquid in any device (even though some types might work better)?
I'll price up that kit (if you like) and see how it works out.
iClear16 is a decent little clearomiser. It holds 1.6ml (approx) and you can vape it down to 0.5ml at a guess. 2 of them should last a day.
The replacement heads last longer than Protank/evod heads for most people. I'm lucky to get a week out of a Protank head (£1.20) and have managed crazy value out of iClear16s, one lasting 2 months with a light liquid.
You can use any liquids in any cartos or clearos. The only thing to say is that 100% VG is thick and wicks slower. It's unlikely you'll buy 100% VG though unless you request it.
I'll be back later.
I'm back. I'm sure I can find you a discount code for ukecigcabin (5%) which would make it £59-ish.
It's not bad, but you're going to need more than 1 replaceable atomizer head...
Alternatively, you might consider getting a single basic battery "kit" and then adding 1 Spinner, plus another 2 clearomisers and a pack of 5 atomizer heads or something. If you like it, get another Spinner or MOD down the line.
Off the top of my head,
Mini Protank 2 kit £19.99 (includes charger and 5 heads)
Vision Spinner £17.99
2 x iClear16 £7.00
1 pack of iClear atomizers £7.00
£52. More stuff to be getting on with...
Either way, it's £50+ but once you get used to filling up the clearomisers, you can run these e-cigs for £7-£10 a week or less which is cheaper than skycig/nicolites/e-lites by miles.
I vape up to 2ml a day.
Filling myself, I allow £10 a week (£520 p.a.)
skycig (1ml a day) = 7 cartridges = £15 per week (£750 p.a.)
E-Lites (1ml a day) = 7 cartridges = £27.50 per week (£1,450 p.a.)
In reality, the comparison isn't even great. The mini ecigs barely produce enough vapour/nicotine for a heavy smoker anyway, so a 1ml refill is not going to stop withdrawal cravings. Testimony on brand websites where people miraculously go from a pack a day to 1 cartomiser is either fake or the ex-smoker is simply able to get by with far less nicotine and are happy puffing away regardless of cutting down their nicotine.
1 year after starting Vaping, I took a week off and just put on a patch. It was easy.... which goes to show that e-cig users have only the nicotine to worry about. Smoking is more complex, which is why going from smoking to patches can cause trouble. Going from Vaping to NRT is easier, I'm sure of it. IF the government mess about with e-cigs too much, e-cig users are better placed than smokers to wean themselves off nicotine.
but I'm getting off-topic.
It's not bad, but you're going to need more than 1 replaceable atomizer head...
Alternatively, you might consider getting a single basic battery "kit" and then adding 1 Spinner, plus another 2 clearomisers and a pack of 5 atomizer heads or something. If you like it, get another Spinner or MOD down the line.
Off the top of my head,
Mini Protank 2 kit £19.99 (includes charger and 5 heads)
Vision Spinner £17.99
2 x iClear16 £7.00
1 pack of iClear atomizers £7.00
£52. More stuff to be getting on with...
Either way, it's £50+ but once you get used to filling up the clearomisers, you can run these e-cigs for £7-£10 a week or less which is cheaper than skycig/nicolites/e-lites by miles.
I vape up to 2ml a day.
Filling myself, I allow £10 a week (£520 p.a.)
skycig (1ml a day) = 7 cartridges = £15 per week (£750 p.a.)
E-Lites (1ml a day) = 7 cartridges = £27.50 per week (£1,450 p.a.)
In reality, the comparison isn't even great. The mini ecigs barely produce enough vapour/nicotine for a heavy smoker anyway, so a 1ml refill is not going to stop withdrawal cravings. Testimony on brand websites where people miraculously go from a pack a day to 1 cartomiser is either fake or the ex-smoker is simply able to get by with far less nicotine and are happy puffing away regardless of cutting down their nicotine.
1 year after starting Vaping, I took a week off and just put on a patch. It was easy.... which goes to show that e-cig users have only the nicotine to worry about. Smoking is more complex, which is why going from smoking to patches can cause trouble. Going from Vaping to NRT is easier, I'm sure of it. IF the government mess about with e-cigs too much, e-cig users are better placed than smokers to wean themselves off nicotine.
but I'm getting off-topic.
MOST cartos, clearos are refillable... atomizers only get "filled" with a few drops of juice, vape, repeat (called dripping). The iClear 16 is refillable, as to how many times- there is no answer... its refillable till the coil either burns out or becomes too gunked up to use... at which point it can be removed and either cleaned or replaced with a new one. Finally, yes, you can use any brand/type of juice just be aware that the higher the VG level the thicker the juice will be and the quicker it will gunk up the coil.
I used the iClear 16 for a while and it works well, though I recommend the Kanger mini ProTank II over it- it provides MUCH better flavor and a better all around vape. Plus, its glass and much easier to fill/clean/replace heads. Regardless- make sure to get replacement heads at lower Ohm ratings- you can get 1.5 Ohm heads for the iClear and 1.8 heads for the ProTank.
Good luck!
I went for the Spinner / iClear 16 kit in the end, just ordered! I managed to find out the code for the 5% discount on ecigcabin, thanks for the heads up on it djsvapour. I just ordered the kit and a couple of bottles of e-liquid for now and I'll go from there, sort out the replacement coils later and consider adding other components. Thanks everybody for all the help, although I'm sure I'll have more questions soon!
You should definitely purchase back up tanks/coils and batteries.....backups backups backups
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