Advice needed please

[cfcboy]

So ive been using the EVOD BCC for the last week and its been a mixed experience so far. Ive had some good days (good pulls, nice vapes, heads working well) and some bad days (leeks, heads dying after a couple of hours and bad vapes).

I keep getting drawn back to my nicolite as its a much closer exp to real smoking so looking for a better cost effective way of doing it, i was spending more on the nicolite cartomizers than actually smoking. Dead carts, battery dying quick and carts being half full.

* Would i be looking for a automatic ecig?
* I need to find something thats very cost effective. The EVOD is fine for this once i start DIY'ing with wicks and coils, maybe a new protank for it.
* I want to be able to feel that pull of a normal smoke and have a good throat hit
* I dont want to be throwing money at carts like the nicolite, is it possible to refill a similar device?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

 

[Blkwdw86]

I use Evods nearly exclusively. While I can't say they've been trouble free, they've done their job rather well. I get a reasonable facsimile of smoking without a lot of fuss. Certainly better than the cig-a-likes I've tried over the years, which were not only horribly anemic, but provided no cost savings at all.

You may want to try moving to a little more user-friendly tank. A lot of people swear by Vivi Novas, that's where I'd go next. The Aspire is another good one, and the Davide as well. The Protank is a glorified Evod with the same quirks, it's doubtful you'd be happy with it, although the Aerotank just came out, might be worth seeing how that does. If all else fails, you can't go wrong with a good DCT cartomizer.

 

[djsvapour]

Eh up? Not going well?

Have you considered putting cartomisers on your battery?

The way I see it, IF you don't enjoy the vape on a clearomiser and are going back to rip-off central, then you need to consider what it is about what you need to enjoy vaping.

Why not order a 5 pack of either prefilled or blank cartomisers. On your battery they ought to give you a similar vape to a nicolite or skycig, only more powerful.

I often use cartomisers IN a cartomiser tank. I find it better for flavour and throat hit. But they work the same without the tank, you just need to top them up more often.
Whatever you decide, and wherever you go on this, you DO NOT need to buy more batteries. It has nothing to do with automatic/manual, I assure you.

 

[djsvapour]

If all else fails, you can't go wrong with a good DCT cartomizer.

Exactly.

I started out on cartomizers and had been smoke free for months before moving to clearomisers....so I never noticed the lack of kick from clearomisers.

Put these on an evod battery, and it will be like a turbo-charged cig-a-like.

CARTOMISERS

or you can get the bog standard BOGE (LR 40mm) from Myepack.

BOGE 510 CARTOMISER SS - Cartomizers

The vape is certainly more of a "hit" from a cartomiser.... i.m.o.

 

[itskohler]

Cartomizers are the way to go. I ueed a clearo for a week before I decided I needed more of a kick.

Sent from one of my many Samsung devices.

 

[dice57]

The Aspire Nautilus is a decent BDC atomizer. Has adjustable air flow, 4 different hole size from fairly tight to a decent airy draw similar to the Russian rba with air intake wide open. Flavors pretty good, and will wick 70% VG juice up to about 11 watts before getting a slightly burn taste. Imagine with high PG ratio's it could handle 15 watts easily. I would rate it up there close to a decent rba with a decent build vaped at the same watts, but, it's doesn't really compare to a great high end rba with a good build like the Flash-e-Vapor V2, Kayfun 3.1, or Aqua, but still a very decent vape, and high marks for ease of use, fiddle free, no flooding issues, and just plain works. Would give one a fair idea what going rba could mean to ones vape potential.

 

[Freyadis]

There's been some nice suggestions, but a couple that I didn't see mentioned that have consistently worked well for me were the Elego Mini BCC and the IClear16. They're both very inexpensive, and I've not seen any of the leakage or failures that I've seen with some of the clone clearomizers. Pair one up with a basic Kangar EVOD VV battery and you've got a low price, reliable set up, and I can honestly say it works, since that's the same set up recommended to me by my local shop, and I've been cigarette free for 32 days after smoking 3 packs per day for over 20 years.

 

[cfcboy]

ok so i have no issue using cartomizers for the evod? will give them a go, cool

Another question if i may - My wife is wanting to try the ecig route after watching me quit the fags. She doesnt want anything fancy and she wants a cig a like experience. Thinking something like:

V1 Power PCC Starter Kit - Starter Kits

Would these be useable in my evod, would be great if we could share out cartomizers. Thanks yet again, you guys are really helpful

 

[djsvapour]

cfc.. I reviewed that kit.

Review of Myepack V1 Power PCC Starter Kit. | ALL ABOUT E-CIGARETTES UK

and on here, the same comments.

That is a KR808 thread kit and should be seen as stand alone. If you were to get into that stuff...

a) you'd need an adapter to use her cartomisers on your battery (easy to find...)
b) the other way round is almost impossible.

I actually use Myepack cartomisers quite often in both 808 and 510. The £4.99 tobacco ones are just about OK for me to vape, then I top them up with Triple 5 or Golden Virgin.

Ask away...

I started on kit like that (not counting stupid E-Lites) and hope to end it all on kit like that.


.....it's just the bit in between going Vape mad that's worrying me...

 

[cfcboy]

Thanks DJS, funnily enough I found your review before I started this thread, was a good read.

So can I get refill carts for the v1 as well as filled? If so how long in general do the carts last for? Don't want to be forever changing them like the poxy nicolite.

Also, there are two different battery types - 63m 180mah red and 78 230mah green. Whats the differences here?

Thanks mate

ps - is it cheaper to buy carts or juice for refills in this instance? What usually lasts longer?

 

[djsvapour]

Terrific!

yes, you can buy "blanks" with an 808 fitting.

BLANK CARTOMIZER - Cartomizers

a little more expensive the BOGE. (Typical Kanger... )

Using the V1 battery, you should get 150 puffs, maybe 200+ if you puff very gently. I would expect them to be similar amount of puffs to Nicolites. So, not great.

Remember; the Nicolites and E-lites of this world choose the choice of resistance in the cartomiser to achieve just enough vapour to seem OK and as many puffs as possible. The battery on these get weak very quickly improving the "puff count". As the battery runs down, the amount of puffs count will improve..oddly enough.

****** for example sell their product claiming 400 puffs. That's based on 1.5 seconds, and yes, they are tested to do that.
If the battery stayed fully charged that would drop to 300 straight away. If you puff for 3 seconds (which is more realistic) then you are down to 150 puffs. They say 400 puffs, but it's still only less than half a pack of cigarettes (in Nicotine) like B&H or Marlboro Red.

Let's be honest. If you put any cartomiser on a good eGo battery, you'll be down to 100 puffs at best. If you put a regular cartomiser on a Vision Spinner battery, it will be 60-70 puffs. That's the truth.

BUT, the kit is good in it's own way. The longer batteries last longer, I think they are 180mAh in the small and 280mAh in the long.

 

[djsvapour]

Oh, just to say.. I tried to be fair and compare the V1 to other similar products. It's still not ideal for heavier smokers and will require lots of charging... and quite regular refilling.

You'll get a better vape sticking the cartos on your EVOD battery with an adapter than on a V1 battery.

However, the carts are cheap. If you used 3 a day and threw them out, it would be cheaper than some brands for 1. Three times as much puffing, three times as much nicotine. Three times better chance of quitting smoking if you ask me.

 

[cfcboy]

Thanks again djs, ive ordered her start pack so will see how it goes.

Blimey this vaping malarky is so much more complicated that i imagined hey!

For my EVOD i think im going to stick with it but i really need to feel the pull (dont ask me why, force of habit i guess), how would i achieve that from any particular cart? Do i need a higher resistance? There are also different pin sizes, how does this make a difference?

Sorry for being a pain!

 

[cfcboy]

eGo/510 Battery Adaptors - Janty eGo

Is this the adaptor im looking for?

 

[djsvapour]

eGo/510 Battery Adaptors - Janty eGo

Is this the adaptor im looking for?

No. Although those are useful down the line. You need an 808-510

510 to 901/808 adapter (short) - Cloud 9 Vaping

Welcome to Cloud9. Might want to get a few things there to make up the postage.

or this one, will extend a little more though.

510 to 901/808 adapter (silver) - Cloud 9 Vaping

Also, if you stick a cartomiser on your evod battery, you'll probably think it looks daft (!>)

Then, you can tidy up the look with a cone.

http://www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/epage...e46fvrnud/Products/RIVA70/SubProducts/RIVA70-

 

[djsvapour]

Regarding the "draw"... evods are not similar to cartos. (cartomisers)

If you are buying cartos for your evod battery, then I'd say go for boge low resistance on 40mm. If you fill one and find it last too short a time, fill two and rotate them, then fill when you can.

I hope you like cartomisers. They will be more like Nicolites, only more vapour.

The "resistance" is not related to the style of draw. It changes the amount of vapour. Lower resistance....more vapour, warmer vapour.

I use low resistance everything, just so it performs half decent on basic batteries.

 

[cfcboy]

BOGE 510 CARTOMISER SS - Cartomizers

so if i buy these they will fit straight on my evod?