advice on first REAL purchase

[MrGimp]

I am really looking at buying the INNOKIN iTaste SVD Telescoping Variable Voltage E-Cigarette Mod / Battery Compartment or the EGO-EVOD 6-in-1 Rechargeable 900mAh Electronic Cigarettes Set

in the opinion of the gurus here which would be the better purchase given the following (bonus points for WHY you'd choose the one you recommend):

• this will be my 2nd vape purchase (1st was a cig a like Ismoke that the wife saw and bought in a truckstop of all places )
• I am a moderate vapor (going thru 1-2 carts a day at most)
• I am on a VERY limited budget. I would LIKE to spend under $60.00 USD Max.. Lower the cost the better..
• I think I want a bottom feed wick so i don't have to tilt it up a bunch due to limited range of motion aka "crippled old gimp"
• I will be replacing analogs with no intention of quitting
• I want something reliable that will last.
• battery life is somewhat important. I should be able to charge it twice a day.. passthru a plus.
• not too complicated to fill/refill
• nothing too big, I don't want to carry a maglite size battery on my hip LOL

these are the two that i have seen recommended on efc and youtube. BUT if you think something else would be a better choice please let me know. also if I can provide more info to help y'all help me let me know what info I can add

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

I have the SVD and it's ok. I prefer the Sigelei V5 as a telescope, though, and I think it looks better. The new MVP V2 is just about out, and if they fixed several problems like the button and the connection, it should be great with variable wattage and an Ohm meter, which the V1 was sadly lacking. So, my recommendation is the Sigelie. Why? Well, I have 23 APV's and mods and it is the best in your price range in my humble opinion. Was vaping my Kayfun Lite on it today as a matter of fact. Very nice. Good luck and best to you!

 

[TSRodes]

man, I like tinkering with the big mechanical mods, but for a normal human being who doesn't feel like carrying a small flashlight/fog machine, I can't recommend the kanger evod bcc enough. my girlfriend has a one and it's flavor/vapor production doesn't even seem bad compared to mine. miles beyond the old ego battery and volcano cartomizers. there are cheaper clones of the evod, but it's already really affordable. just make sure your atomizer resistance is a good match for the battery you're using it with!

the poster above me has very good recommendations, but maybe for your six month vapeversary.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

man, I like tinkering with the big mechanical mods, but for a normal human being who doesn't feel like carrying a small flashlight/fog machine, I can't recommend the kanger evod bcc enough. my girlfriend has a one and it's flavor/vapor production doesn't even seem bad compared to mine. miles beyond the old ego battery and volcano cartomizers. there are cheaper clones of the evod, but it's already really affordable. just make sure your atomizer resistance is a good match for the battery you're using it with!

the poster above me has very good recommendations, but maybe for your six month vapeversary.

Go back and read his post. He said he was considering buying the SVD. I stayed with that reasoning. Thank you about the good advice. Best to you!

 

[MrGimp]

hmm ok thank you both I just realized the SVD I linked will need batteries and tanks/heads.. OMG I seriously feel like i'm struggling to stay afloat here. at least I noticed it BEFORE i ordered.

I have the SVD and it's ok. I prefer the Sigelei V5 as a telescope, though, and I think it looks better. The new MVP V2 is just about out, and if they fixed several problems like the button and the connection, it should be great with variable wattage and an Ohm meter, which the V1 was sadly lacking. So, my recommendation is the Sigelie. Why? Well, I have 23 APV's and mods and it is the best in your price range in my humble opinion. Was vaping my Kayfun Lite on it today as a matter of fact. Very nice. Good luck and best to you!

I'll definately look into the Sigelei v5 with your recommendation. If I can find a complete kit, everything I need minus juice I could probably go $60-$75 with a little begging to the wife

And I just realized I will need to find juice too FT has an asian brand 60mL for like $6 (E-liquid for Electronic Cigarettes (60ml)
555 flavor / high) I've seen a few people recommend 555 here. I know juice is totally subjective an personal. In my former life as a smoker I smoked American Spirits Blue pack and Camel 99's with the occasional Lucky Strikes.
So thats going to be a whole other sink/swim section... finding good juice I like THEN finding the settings I like it the best on..

LOL smoking was sooo much easier.. buy - light - inhale - done LOL. Tho IU do enjoy vaping a lot more even on my little Ismok tho I dont like knowing how long i have till empty cart, or dead battery. and I definitely want MORE vapor

 

[pianman6954]

If your going the fasttech route check out the vamo with a pair of 18350 batteries (bought from anyone else but fasttech). Perhaps bargain a bit, I waited for mine to buy another 60$ tanning package lol.

 

[MrGimp]

If your going the fasttech route check out the vamo with a pair of 18350 batteries (bought from anyone else but fasttech). Perhaps bargain a bit, I waited for mine to buy another 60$ tanning package lol.

The Vamo? ok and now why would I look at the vamo? Not being sarcastic or snotty, I really am asking. Also I assume that regular C or D cells are a no go in these bad boys? also can anyone tell me what the diff between protected an unprotected batteries are?

 

[Soulfly54]

I have an iTaste SVD that I got a month or so ago. I noticed you didn't want a monster & I'll tell you right now- that thing is pretty damn big. I just got a Sigelei Zmax V3 (telescoping) & I'm in love with it. Quality build and almost an inch shorter than the SVD. Put an 18350 battery in it and it's pretty compact for a VW mod. It's more of an investment than an Ego, but in the long run you'll be happy with it. An 18650 battery lasts me a solid day- sometimes a day & a half with moderate to occasionally heavy vaping. In the end it's all about your personal preference.

And here is a good place to get educated on batteries: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...9007-warning-rechargeable-batteries-apvs.html

 

[Choc_Addic]

Starter kit.
Spare tanks , get at least 2 extra EVoD tanks and a few replacement heads.
Get some extra juice in small bottles until you find your taste.

That should keep you under your budget ...Just.

Cheers....

PS. I don't think you are ready for either of the ADV PV's recommended above. Learn about batteries first.

 

[yo419g0tamin]

Starter kit.
Spare tanks , get at least 2 extra EVoD tanks and a few replacement heads.
Get some extra juice in small bottles until you find your taste.

That should keep you under your budget ...Just.

Cheers....

PS. I don't think you are ready for either of the ADV PV's recommended above. Learn about batteries first.

I started with a provari.......why can't he start with a apv just do research, ask around, know what stuff does and know fore sure what your doing and anyone can do this it ain't hard just a new learning curve.

People need to stop telling people what they can and can not do around here that's why these people that can't do it, do it and get hurt because someone told them they can't.

Please OP do your research and listen to advice then make a informed decision based on what you learned and recommendations of others experience with the said device/mod/apv/e-cig.

 

[Choc_Addic]

I started with a provari.......why can't he start with a apv just do research, ask around, know what stuff does and know fore sure what your doing and anyone can do this it ain't hard just a new learning curve.

I agree......
But as I have seen so many posts with people who have bought Advance Mod's and find themself with crap batteries!, It's won't vap!, etc etc...

So All I'm saying is research first.

Cheers.

 

[MrGimp]

I started with a provari.......why can't he start with a apv just do research, ask around, know what stuff does and know fore sure what your doing and anyone can do this it ain't hard just a new learning curve.

People need to stop telling people what they can and can not do around here that's why these people that can't do it, do it and get hurt because someone told them they can't.

Please OP do your research and listen to advice then make a informed decision based on what you learned and recommendations of others experience with the said device/mod/apv/e-cig.

thats what I am doing, my research. I won't buy for a month, to force myself to take the time to make a good informed decision.
I am reading as much as I can find, unfortunately quite a bit of it assumes a certain level of familiarity to start with that I do not have.. yet.
Luckily I am thoroughly familiar with electronics and other similarly technically complex topics so I know HOW to learn.
One of the major stumbling blocks i'm having atm is with the VV/VW stuff. like knowing why I would want to adjust the volts/wattage. Is it like adjusting the heat on a barbecue or oven? and if so is it based on the PG/VG ratio? or something else? And is there a chart or is it all guess work?
Plus learning which setups need tanks, which need carts like the Smoktech Dual Coil Cartomizers, or can you use the csartomizer in something like the protank II's and why would you? etc.. though I am making new discoveries daily..
it's JUST HARD TO REIGN IN THE URGE TO BUY SOMETHING BETTER THAN I HAVE before I am ready and know what to get and why? or at least a semblance of a clue

 

[Vapeaddikt]

I am really looking at buying the INNOKIN iTaste SVD Telescoping Variable Voltage E-Cigarette Mod / Battery Compartment or the EGO-EVOD 6-in-1 Rechargeable 900mAh Electronic Cigarettes Set

in the opinion of the gurus here which would be the better purchase given the following (bonus points for WHY you'd choose the one you recommend):

• this will be my 2nd Vape purchase (1st was a cig a like Ismoke that the wife saw and bought in a truckstop of all places )
• I am a moderate vapor (going thru 1-2 carts a day at most)
• I am on a VERY limited budget. I would LIKE to spend under $60.00 USD Max.. Lower the cost the better..
• I think I want a bottom feed wick so i don't have to tilt it up a bunch due to limited range of motion aka "crippled old gimp"
• I will be replacing analogs with no intention of quitting
• I want something reliable that will last.
• battery life is somewhat important. I should be able to charge it twice a day.. passthru a plus.
• not too complicated to fill/refill
• nothing too big, I don't want to carry a maglite size battery on my hip LOL

these are the two that i have seen recommended on efc and youtube. BUT if you think something else would be a better choice please let me know. also if I can provide more info to help y'all help me let me know what info I can add

How mechanically inclined are you?

Do you like tinkering with devices to set it up just as you would like it to perform?

Based on you stating that you are crippled are you capable of rebuilding/coiling/wicking a device?

If you step up your game in vaping then obviously these are considerations. For many is simply that they want a simple to use reliable carto setup which doesnt leak and works well. Top wick (vivi nova style) may require some tilting but produces a warmer vape. Bottom wick (kanger pro tank I or II) works well but also does not produce as warm of a vape.

For basic simple to use with minimal impact to you and somewhat variable voltage within your 60 dollar budget a ego twist with a simple carto would do the trick. its also small.

The iTaste SVD looks good and I've used VV/VW devices personally I prefer using mech's with my own SS wick/28 guage kanthal low ohm setup with a 18350 gennie at home or a 30 gauge kanthal cotton wick dripper around 1.1-1/3 ohms for my travel daily use one which keeps me from leaking since I only drip as I want to vape.

Ive always been a tinkering type of guy who has worked on electronics and builds PC's/HTPC's so it was not a learning curve for me. This being said no one can really know except you how much you really want to do as far as building and maintaining a device but you. Most of my friends are simply happy using a carto setup. VV/VW is a good setup for them. The size of them is larger than a ego style starter device but the performance increase for most is an easy justification.

My advice if you choose to go this direction (VV/VW) is to save up 100 bucks min as you will need batteries and a charger as well.

If your adamant on staying your direction with the limited budget then fasttech would be your best bet. Keep researching the forums/youtube ect to research your own most informed decision as in anything.

Stepping it up per say is not always a step up as well. By this I mean how simple do you want it to be? Does size/convenience outweigh more control and quality of vape experience?

There is my 2 cents and my first official post since I mostly read and rarely post on most forums.

 

[Choc_Addic]

>read<

Take time to read the above link and it explain what you want to know.

OP 's may have good understanding of electronic and battery tech. Than OP is half way there.

In layman's terms.....
Let's say, a piece of steak.
You like it rare, I like it well done, someone else like in in between. And said taste changes with time, and other variables.

Add to that, multitude of different juices, type of delivery systems... (BBC, DCT, TC, Drippers ETC....) not to mention an coil (head)'s resistant changes as it is being used. So it makes for a "very challenging" for any device to produce a certain Vapor (as you would like it).

So You need (at least for a long time in the beginning of your vaping zone) an certian fool proof way to provide that zone of vap.

The VW is one way (the easiest way). You set the wattage and forget it.

I hope I made some sense as I'm also still learning and I do not think anyone has a fool proof way as of yet but VW is very close.

Cheers.

 

[MrGimp]

>read<

Take time to read the above link and it explain what you want to know.

OP 's may have good understanding of electronic and battery tech. Than OP is half way there.

In layman's terms.....
Let's say, a piece of steak.
You like it rare, I like it well done, someone else like in in between. And said taste changes with time, and other variables.

Add to that, multitude of different juices, type of delivery systems... (BBC, DCT, TC, Drippers ETC....) not to mention an coil (head)'s resistant changes as it is being used. So it makes for a "very challenging" for any device to produce a certain Vapor (as you would like it).

So You need (at least for a long time in the beginning of your vaping zone) an certian fool proof way to provide that zone of vap.

The VW is one way (the easiest way). You set the wattage and forget it.

I hope I made some sense as I'm also still learning and I do not think anyone has a fool proof way as of yet but VW is very close.

Cheers.

excellent that read helped fill in some gaps!! so many thanks

 

[OlDogNewTricks]

A twist style variable voltage battery is just fine to start out with and you can get many different types for less than $30. If you want a tank with great capacity, look for anything that has a bottom coil and has a Kanger name on it. Available practically anywhere, affordable (less than $20), replacement coils (they last 2-4 weeks, more if you learn how to clean and dry burn them) are very easy to find and cheap (a pack of 5 is less than $10. Don't let people sway you, find what you can afford, is easily available and has good reviews. Good luck and have fun!

 

[MrGimp]

How mechanically inclined are you?

Do you like tinkering with devices to set it up just as you would like it to perform?

Based on you stating that you are crippled are you capable of rebuilding/coiling/wicking a device?

I do like tinkering yes, but I don't like HAVING to tinker. That probably doesn't make sense, what I mean is I like the ability to tinker, but I want what ever I'm tinkering with to not NEED constant tinkering, it needs to work reliably when i don't feel like messing with it an just want a vape in this case. As for being able to.. rebuild a coil/wicking I think I should be able too, I'll need to rig up a third hand for the project but looks no harder than soldering breadboards etc from what I've seen on youtube.. wrapping the wick small an tight enough might be an issue but I can solve it if it is.. My main issue is that I have basically one usable hand/arm and that I get unexpected muscle spasms that can cause me to throw whatever is in my hands in a random direction, crush a glass or even beer bottle etc..

<snipped> For many is simply that they want a simple to use reliable carto setup which doesn't leak and works well. Top wick (vivi nova style) may require some tilting but produces a warmer vape. Bottom wick (kanger pro tank I or II) works well but also does not produce as warm of a vape.

Ya I understand about TW & BW and without hands on experience I think I would prefer BW or at least I want to start with BW

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The iTaste SVD looks good and I've used VV/VW devices personally I prefer using mech's with my own SS wick/28 guage kanthal low ohm setup with a 18350 gennie at home or a 30 gauge kanthal cotton wick dripper around 1.1-1/3 ohms for my travel daily use one which keeps me from leaking since I only drip as I want to vape.

OK there are things in this last block that I recognize liker 30gauge Kanthal but thers alot I dont like ' mech's with my own SS or 18350 gennie'
I know I will not be dripping or dipping that is just me begging to make a mess or get hurt LOL

Ive always been a tinkering type of guy who has worked on electronics and builds PC's/HTPC's so it was not a learning curve for me. This being said no one can really know except you how much you really want to do as far as building and maintaining a device but you. <snipped>
By this I mean how simple do you want it to be? Does size/convenience outweigh more control and quality of vape experience?
There is my 2 cents and my first official post since I mostly read and rarely post on most forums.

And I've built PC's, Electric wheelchair/powerchair/scooter mods, made custom ps3 controllers and other tinker-otica
As far as size/convenience vs control/quality since I am realistically going to have the one PV mod, and only one for quite sometime due yto finances I suppose I have to find a good balance between the two ends of the spectrum. Something that I can take/keep with me AND still have some control over the experience.
I know I could clear up 80-90% of all my concerns by just actually getting some hands on with a few of the different mods/devices, but that isnt really realistic.
Still thank you for your input and help, I've getting closer and closer to feeling like I'm starting to understand this now

 

[r77r7r]

The Twist really is a good recommendation. It allows you ease of use while you figure out the complexities of your cartos and juices. THEN go back and upgrade if you feel the need.

If you get removable batteries, please pick up a Case to carry them in.

 

[szot]

For a new guy to vaping...I believe in keeping it simple and inexpensive...kinda like buy the Cessna before U buy a DC3... so my recommendations are...

My recommendations..either or..

$44..USA (CT) company..2 1100a ego C fixed batteries...2 CE5's....case...2 chargers etc.... DV eGo-T Starter Kit - 1100mah

$25...China company... 2 1100a Variable volt batteries..2 CE5's,,,..case...2 chargers.... $24.99 EGO-CE4S 6-in-1 Variable Voltage Rechargeable 1100mAh E-Cigarettes Set with 0.55" Screen - double e-cigarettes / 2.4

 

[jaydjay]

As a new vaper I have to agree with r77r7r.
I just got a C twist 1000 and a cart w BW . Its VERY easy to use and allows you to experience vaping without all the other choices you Could Make. Once you've done it awhile you'll know exactly what'sl needed for YOU and go for it. This is a great vid I saw this morning from another poster that explains the Twist well
THE EGO TWIST IS A GAME CHANGER - YouTube