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royalcrown

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So I'm closing in on 48 hours without an analog. Haven't gone this long without one in 11 years and I feel fine. Still kinda miss that real cig feeling but I'm adapting. Anyway, I'm currently on 808's and it's doing the trick but due to being on this forum, you're introduced to all sorts of larger contraptions. I like the 808 because it feels like a cigarette, which is what I think I needed to transition off of the analogs, and I have no complaints about them so far. It's the portability of them that works for me. I'm currently smoking my virgin, newb setup, a Green Smoke batt with 3rd party blank carts and Mt Baker juice. My blend is 80/20 PG/VG and 18 nic. It's keeping me from smoking analogs but I still have that slight craving for something a bit stronger, more vape, stronger TH (which I realize is unrealizable as Vape = VG and TH = PG). Just trying to find that balance. I have an SI Volt on the way with some C3's. I'm hoping I'll enjoy that much better as I'm getting a bit tired constantly dripping when I "think" my cart is low. One thing I've realized is that the juice itself can really affect the TH even with the same VG/PG makeup. For instance, I can lung hit Mt Baker Cheesecake like it's an ultra light (still tastes good) but the Mt Baker peanut butter cup hits like a real cig (gotta take it easy on the drags). Seems like there's so many variables to reach what a certain person really wants. Luck almost. Trial and error. But to finally get to my question, what will a larger batt change? The difference between an SI volt 808 and the SI X2? Just battery life? Or vape volume, taste, as well?
 

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Hi royalcrown,
I have Volts and X2s myself. The real difference is in the battery life - the X2s will last longer. Some X2 users have said they noticed the X2 seemed a bit more powerful than a Volt straight off the charger. But other than that - both Volts and X2s are regulated at 3.7 volts. That actually higher than a standard ego, which is regulated at 3.3-3.4 volts.
So if you want something a bit more powerful you may want to try the Smokeless Image Volt Spinner - that has variable voltage, so you can increase the power and make the vape warmer. Variable voltage can make a difference with a particular juice when you change the voltage level.

You're right about different juices - I've noticed some flavors seem to have more throat hit than others, although its the nicotine that gives the throat hit.
 

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Yep you nailed it on the head. X2 has a larger body to accommodate a larger battery cell. I'm not 100% if they are regulated or not (regulated being they only give off 3.2 - 3.4v consistently).

They're regulated at 3.6 - 3.7 volts. Higher than the ego at 3.3 -3.4 volts. The info is on the SI website.
 

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People will argue that both batteries are putting out 3.7v or whatevery their stated output is. And both are so-called "regulated" batteries, which means that they are supposed to sustain that voltage from being fully charged until the charge becomes so low that it no longer produces vapor.

I don't buy it. I could always tell the difference between a fresh battery and one that is half way into its discharge state. And having said that I could tell the difference in the quality of the vape between the 808 and the larger X2. Maybe the multimeters and graphs will tell a different story, I just go by my experience.

My feeling is the bigger the battery the better the vape. That is why after three weeks of using the Volt 78's and X2's, I got a Silver Bullet mod and a BB, both from Altsmoke. I got a significantly better vape. 8 straight hours of use on the BB and all day use with the Silver Bullet. I started using cartotanks which could carry 7 ml of juice which could last me two days before needing to be refilled. It was all about a better vaping experience and a more care-free experience not needing to worry about battery changes every 3-4 hours and refilling a delivery device at least twice a day.

By the way, I used to use the ce3's to test sample flavors, but didn't care for needing to use a needle to fill them. I switched to the easier to fill Nano's and love them. I recommend.

Edit: sorry, I just reread the title to give advice without product plugs....sorry about that. :rolleyes:
 
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royalcrown

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By the way, I used to use the ce3's to test sample flavors, but didn't care for needing to use a needle to fill them. I switched to the easier to fill Nano's and love them. I recommend.

Thanks for the advice. I've been looking at the SI Nano's too. I've just heard better reviews about the CE3's, referencing the fact that they don't leak, etc. I like the nano idea because they're smaller and I'd like something more the length of a real cig. So you've had no problems with the nano?
 

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To be absolutely honest, I got mine from a different vendor since my devices use a 510 thread. And I have only had my Nano's for a couple of weeks, with only sporadic use as I only use these type of devices to test samples with. Of the one that has been in use, I was happy with the flavor and vapor production, and it hasn't leaked. Admittedly, a couple weeks is not long enough to give a total thumbs up, but for my expectations it fit the bill.

I don't recall where I had gotten my ce3's. I don't even remember if they were 510 thread or from Smokeless Image. For a long time I tried to remain somewhat faithful to Smokeless Image as they were who I started vaping with and got me off of cigarettes. But as time goes on, it gets harder to use 808 threaded devices requiring an adaptor, when you can just order something in the thread that your current equipment uses.
 

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Some people need their starter vape to 'look like a cig' starting out. Once you get over that factor, most find that the battery life and power output leaves much to be desired.

I vape like a research monkey on a dual coil head. I get about 10 hours per battery. You just can't get that from a cig sized device.
 

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Size matters.

I still want to get a MINI eGo and a MINI T3.

Wouldn't they be cute together?

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Been using some Nanos for about six weeks now, and haven't had any leak. Nice device, imo. Good hit, good draw. I use them on "mega" 510 autos when I want to vape hands free, and on other devices as well. (And other delivery systems as well, of course.)

I agree that higher voltage is the exception. I have a couple of Spinners and an MVP, and being able to fine tune the vape is great. Of course, you do give up the "feel" of an analog.

You may want to try some 24 mg juice if you still have some morning cravings. I started with 18, and it just didn't cut it for me. The 24 did the trick.
 
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