AFS feedbacks

[imeothanasis]

Guys, AFS is not compared to this little thing, its obvious. But its not for everyone because its not cheap. But its always the best for almost a day smoking

I could do that too very easy and maybe longer for more liquid but it will not last, sorry

 

[ESmoking1979]

Guys, AFS is not compared to this little thing, its obvious. But its not for everyone because its not cheap. But its always the best for almost a day smoking

I could do that too very easy and maybe longer for more liquid but it will not last, sorry

OK Imeo, I was only trying to help with new ideas. I was not trying to cause any harm in any way. Only trying to help. Please forgive me.

If it can be done better or different to fit all atties, I'm sure you will be the one to perfect it.

I don't think the problem is that "it's not cheap". I think the price is reasonable. The drawback is that it only uses modified 901 atties. Which means that people who like to use only 801 or only 510 have to use an atty that they don't like. Many people do not like the 901 atty. In my opinion, the 901 is the worst of all atties. This is MY opinion. I have tried them all. If there was an AFS for a modified 801 atty, I would go head over heels crazy for it. I love my 801. I am planning to get the AFS, but I will ONLY use it when I'm driving. I love the 801 so much, I'd rather drip for the rest of my life than have to switch to a 901 all day long. I'll only use the 901 AFS for driving. But who knows, maybe it will grow on me after I buy it. Maybe the 901 will taste and hit better out of the AFS. I don't know because I don't have the AFS yet. All I know is that I love 801 and I strongly dislike 901. Price is not a problem for me. I would pay you ANY price to make me an AFS for the DSE801 or BE112.

 

[imeothanasis]

OK Imeo, I was only trying to help with new ideas. I was not trying to cause any harm in any way. Only trying to help. Please forgive me.

If it can be done better or different to fit all atties, I'm sure you will be the one to perfect it.

I don't think the problem is that "it's not cheap". I think the price is fairly reasonable. The drawback is that it only uses 901 atties. And they have to be modified. Which means that people who like to use only 801 or only 510 have to use an atty that they don't like. Many people do not like the 901 atty. In my opinion, the 901 is the worst of all atties. This is MY opinion. I have tried them all. If there was an AFS for a modified 801 atty, I would go head over heels crazy over it. I love my 801. I am planning to get the AFS, but I will ONLY use it when I'm driving. I love the 801 so much, I'd rather drip for the rest of my life than have to switch to a 901 all day long. I'll only use the 901 AFS for driving, but who knows, maybe it will grow on me when I buy it. Maybe it will taste and hit better out of the AFS. I don't know because I don't have the AFS yet. All I know is that I love 801 and I strongly dislike 901. Price is not a problem for me. I would pay you ANY price to make me an AFS for the DSE801 or BE112.

E smoking, not a real problem my friend,
You mean if AFS can fit all atties? Its dificult for 801 but it can be done, but each atty wants its AFS. I just have no time to make all things together. Imagine that I am alone and I have made 10 things more than big companies!!!

I agree that many people dont like 901 but I know that many people like it too xaxa

You think that 901 is worse than 801? But it makes very big smoke and throat kick, maybe better than 801. I am a 901 lover. Also I know many people that they like 510 atomizer, so I just made an AFS for 1/3 of people here. So when I will make other AFS you can take your favorite of course

 

[Lisaf01]

Imeo has done the work on the most popular option first, to do anything else would have been daft, wouldn't you agree Esmoking?

The other atties will follow - don't you worry about it - Imeo will never stop inventing.

By the way - I know I was already a 901 fan, but seriously, even if you're not, it's just AMAZING wth the AFS. I mean, just imagine refilling once, maybe twice in a day. Totally unbelieveable until you experience it.

The taste and the hit too? Awesome - there's no other word.

Imeo has taken this WAY beyond the realms of the "cart-mod" and others can only follow (and they will do - they always do, why? Because it's all they CAN do..................)

 

[ESmoking1979]

E smoking, not a real problem my friend,
You mean if AFS can fit all atties?

Yes!

Its dificult for 801 but it can be done

I'll bet my house it can be done, and I know that you are the only man for the job!

I just have no time to make all things together. Imagine that I am alone and I have made 10 things more than big companies!!!

OK Imeo, let me try to explain my position so that you can get a better understanding. I am not trying to rush you into making an 801 AFS. I don't care when you make it, as long as you make it someday in the future. Let me explain... I was ready to place a huge order last week with standard 801 fittings on all of my GG models. I am going to buy maybe 5-10 devices. But then I could not decide whether or not to buy spare 901 caps that will fit all of my devices to use with the AFS. Then I could not decide whether to buy a bunch of lazered 901 atties. Then I could not decide whether or not to buy a 901 AFS because I am not sure if you are going to ever make an 801 AFS in the future. I really don't want to buy a 901 AFS, plus 901 caps, 901 atties, and all of this 901 stuff that I don't even desire, ESPECIALLY if you suddenly decide to make an 801 AFS in the near future. For me to make the proper decision when making my purchase, I need to know this Imeo... do you promise that you will one day try to make an AFS for the 801? I don't care when. I don't care if it's 6 months or a year from now. I am very patient. I just want to have your word that if I make my purchase of several GG models with standard 801 fittings that I will not have to buy spare 901 caps and 901 atties later, or have to buy a 901 AFS. Please try to understand my position because this is playing a big role in my decision making process on what and when to buy. If you promise me that one day (I don't care when) you will make an AFS for the 801, then I will be able to finally place my order this week without having to spend a lot of extra money on 901 AFS, 901 caps, and 901 lazered atties. But if you are not going to ever make an 801 AFS, then I would like to know now because I want to place my order for everything all at once so that the 901 caps will fit all of my devices. But again, I really don't want the 901 AFS, I am just feeling that I am pressuring myself to buy it because I don't know for sure that you will ever try to make the 801 AFS. Can you please put my mind at ease?

You think that 901 is worse than 801?

Haha, yes. That's what I keep saying. lol

But it makes very big smoke and throat kick, maybe better than 801.

Not if you know how to use the 801 properly. It's all in the draw. I love the long smooth draw of the 801, and yes, it gives me a better throat hit than the 901. The 901 lets in too much air too quickly.

I am a 901 lover. Also I know many people that they like 510 atomizer, so I just made an AFS for 1/3 of people here. So when I will make other AFS you can take your favorite of course

That's all I want is a PROMISE that I will ONE DAY be able to possibly purchase an 801 AFS. Yes, you have pleased 1/3 of the people here. You do everything you can to please everyone. But I doubt many of them are spending 1,000-1,500 euros with you at one time while being unsure of the future of their devices.

 

[Lisaf01]

Esmoking,
I have one important thing to say - please DO NOT base your entire decision on purchasing all this stuff on some future development that may or may not get made.

The e-cig market is fluid and Imeo has to respond to the demand that there is at the time. Don't ask him to make promises that are unrealistic or that he may have to rescind at a later date and then feel awful about.

Please, please make your decision based on what's available now, otherwise you really could be setting yourself up for disappointment.

If I were you, I'd really think LONG and HARD about spending a bit less money now, to ensure you have what you need and that you love the devices before breaking the bank and perhaps feeling you made bad choices later on.

You've been agonising over this all for quite some time, so perhaps it's time to adjust expectations a little?

Edited:
Oh and I just want to add - this advice is coming from the person who has purchased more GG devices (for personal use) than any other person to-date - so you know I am coming from the right place here.

 

[ESmoking1979]

Esmoking,
I have one important thing to say - please DO NOT base your entire decision on purchasing all this stuff on some future development that may or may not get made.

The e-cig market is fluid and Imeo has to respond to the demand that there is at the time.

Please, please make your decision based on what's available now, otherwise you really could be setting yourself up for disappointment.

If I were you, I'd really think LONG and HARD about spending a bit less money now, to ensure you have what you need and that you love the devices before breaking the bank and perhaps feeling you made bad choices later on.

You've been agonising over this all for quite some time, so perhaps it's time to adjust expectations a little?

It's really quite simple for me right now Lisa. The money isn't the problem. The problem is what I spend it on. My decision is being held up on one very important factor. Will the 801 AFS ever possibly exist? And I think only Imeo can answer this.

If it will one day exist, then I can save a bunch of that money without having to buy spare 901 caps that will interchange with all of my devices, plus 901 atties, plus a 901 AFS.

But if the 801 AFS has no plans to EVER come to the market, then I WILL spend that extra money on 901 caps, 901 atties, and a 901 AFS, just to have it when I drive because I drive to people's homes for a living.

I will not be unhappy with my purchase. I just need to know from Imeo his future plans with the 801 AFS. That's it. And I think only he can answer this. It sounds to me like he believes it can be done. He said, "Its dificult for 801 but it can be done", and he said, "So when I will make other AFS you can take your favorite of course". Imeo's comments are leading me to believe that the 801 AFS IS possible and WILL one day exist, and if these are his plans, I'd simply like to know now to save me the money and the headache of getting all of this 901 stuff that I don't particularly desire. I would like to get Imeo's comments on his future plans for an 801 AFS so I can make my buying decision properly and strategically.


But thank you for your input and your concerns Lisa.

 

[Lisaf01]

Just trying to help - I don't want you to make decisions you regret later, or force Imeo to make a promise on something that he clearly hasn't felt comfortable to promise up to this point. It's a little unfair to try to tie him down to this extent isn't it?

Just saying, if I were you, I'd base all your decisions on the situation as it stands right now - and if he does produce an 801 AFS, later on, it will be a bonus.

You're not dealing with a multi-national corporation who make decisions years in advance and are forced to stick to them. This is one man and his vision working in a market that changes on a daily basis - it is what it is, we have to make our strategic decisions based on these facts.

Trying to help you with yours, my friend.

 

[ESmoking1979]

Just trying to help

I know, thank you.

I don't want you to make decisions you regret later

The only decision I would regret later is if I bought a 901 AFS, 901 atties, and 901 caps, and then next month I see an 801 AFS on the market. Then I would be pretty steamed.

or force Imeo to make a promise on something that he clearly hasn't felt comfortable to promise up to this point. It's a little unfair to tie him down to this extent isn't it?

I just want a promise that he will one day TRY to make it. I understand it's not set in stone. It's not like I'm going to take him to court if he can't make me an 801 AFS. lol. I just want to know if he will TRY later and if he thinks it is POSSIBLE. Again, his previous comments lead me to believe that it IS possible, "Its dificult for 801 but it can be done", and he said, "So when I will make other AFS you can take your favorite of course"

Just saying, if I were you, I'd base all your decisions on the situation as it stands right now - and if he does produce an 801 AFS, later on, it will be a bonus.

No, if he produces an 801 AFS later on, it will be a waste of money on all of the 901 stuff that I'd have to buy right now, if I had to base my decision on the situation as it stands right now. And this is what I am trying to avoid, as I said. I don't want to buy a 901 AFS, 901 atties, and 901 spare caps today, and tomorrow the 801 AFS comes to market. Then I would not be a happy camper when it could have been avoided when all Imeo has to do is tell me what he THINKS he can do in the future and if the 801 AFS is in his future plans. I'm not asking for anything set in stone. Just a little more reassurance than the 2 previous comments that he made earlier which lead me to believe that an 801 AFS is coming eventually.

 

[Lisaf01]

Sorry, I misunderstood then. I thought you wanted him to PROMISE (in capital letters).

I think to Imeo, a promise IS set in stone.

Veeeeeery easy to misunderstand stuff online in a forum. If you want a sort of guesstimate that he will look at possibly making the 801 AFS in the future - I think you already have that.

 

[ESmoking1979]

Sorry, I misunderstood then. I thought you wanted him to PROMISE (in capital letters).

I think to Imeo, a promise IS set in stone.

Sorry if my wording confused you. I didn't mean it that way. I just want a PROMISE to TRY to make an 801 AFS later. Heck, I'll even pay him for his time to try and make it later if I have to.

Imeo, understand that I am NOT asking you to set anything in stone. I am ONLY asking you to give me your word that you will TRY to make an 801 AFS later. And I just want you to tell me if you think that it is truly POSSIBLE to make an 801 AFS. That's it. That's all I'm asking. I don't think it's asking much. And it will make me feel so much better, and I will be ready to make my purchase with peace of mind.

Thank you Lisa and Imeo. I will be waiting on Imeo's response. I just want to know what he is PLANNING, that's all. Nothing is set in stone Imeo, I understand this. Please just tell me your plans and the possibilities of the 801 AFS.

-ESmoking

 

[Lisaf01]

Thank you Lisa and Imeo. I will be waiting on Imeo's response. I just want to know what he is PLANNING, that's all. Nothing set in stone Imeo, I understand this.

-ESmoking

Cool, no worries. Let me know the minute you purchase them all - cos I will no longer be the one with the most GGs will I?

Sorry that I misunderstood exactly what you were asking.

 

[ESmoking1979]

Cool, no worries. Let me know the minute you purchase them all - cos I will no longer be the one with the most GGs will I?

Probably not. hehe. But you'll have one that I won't; the old version GG Slim. I haven't been able to talk Imeo into making me one... yet. hehe. He says it's too difficult to make the Slim with the side button. I'll leave him alone about it for now. Any chance you wanna sell yours? 8-o

Anyhow, let's wait on Imeo's responses regarding the future plans for the 801 AFS system. This way I can hopefully have a short discussion between me and Imeo so that I can have my questions answered clearly.

Thank you again for your time and concerns, Lisa.

-ESmoking

 

[emonty]

Lisa: can you post a picture of that "rare"slim....just to see this creation of a Crazy man will make me smile ;-)

 

[Lisaf01]

the old version GG Slim. I haven't been able to talk Imeo into making me one... YET. hehe. He says it's too difficult to make the Slim with the side button. I'll leave him alone about it for now. Any chance you wanna sell yours? 8-o

I might sell it, yes. The new one is much smaller. PM me.

 

[Lisaf01]

Lisa: can you post a picture of that "rare"slim....just to see this creation of a Crazy man will make me smile ;-)

Check out my GGs here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/40582-gg-model-size-comparison.html

I guess I should do a new photo with the new slim before I let the old slim go (if I let it go, that is)

 

[emonty]

It is almost winter!! and I need to wear sunglasses

 

[Lisaf01]

It is almost winter!! and I need to wear sunglasses

hehehhehehe, you exaggerate - there's only two shiny ones there.....
Although I do like all my buttons "blinged up" as you can see.

 

[Lisaf01]

OK, since this is actually the AFS edbacks thread - I thought I would provide an update.

Another AFS tester sent me their atty to double check as they couldn't get it to work effectively and they thought that the hole might not have been lasered all the way through.

After cleaning it a couple of times and finally vaping through what to me is THE most funky tasting juice on the planet (with the exception of french pipe), I found that the hole DID make it all the way through and the atty does work as expected with the AFS. I think either the cart the person was using was providing some sort of extra airflow so the juice was not auto-feeding properly - or the juice being used was too thick.

So, unless Imeo is making the hole on the new AFS atties ever so slightly larger, you really need to make sure you use quite thin juice.

Now, I only had my own one working for half a day before I blew it, so, apart from when I was vaping through that funky juice, this has been the longest vaping session from heaven ever. I can't even express how fab it's been and if I go OTT, people will think I am exaggerating anyway.

Caveats
There IS a learning curve with this thing.
You DO have to use the right viscosity juice.
You DO have to learn which way up to hold your PV and when.

Having said all that - this stuff is NOTHING compared to the permanent fiddling around we do with dripping and refilling carts all damn day long.

I've had this working nicely for nearly two days and today I knew I had tested it enough and had to think about returning it to its rightful owner. OH NO!!!

But the good news is - they said I can keep it.
You know who you are, my friend - I owe you!

Oh and a warning to everyone out there - once you get the hang of this thing - DON'T use your normal full strength juice in it. I usually vape 18MG very heavily and I cut it down to 9mg to use in the AFS and I still think it's too high - cos you just don't have to stop vaping to drip any more......

 

[ggero]

Lisa this I am trying to stop these days...3ml per day with GG now with medium e-liquids..I`ll try to slow it down