I'm using a torch and making the entire thing glow bright orange 5 times, quick cooling it in water each time and repeating. Followed by torching a soak of juice. I however have not torched it WITH the coil attached.
AGA-T+, I'm irritated, what the hell? (VAMO Qs as well)
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I was having troubles with hotlegs, etc... until I started wrapping the coil on the wick before installing , and torching both, then installing. Now things seem to be a bit more stable... I also quench mine in either whatever eliquid I'm using at the time, or pure vg.
This may be part of your wick building problem. The continual torching and quenching is not only unnecessary, it's counter-productive. The quenching makes the wick brittle. It makes it easier for the coil wire to dig into the wick, and damage the oxidization layer. Also, bright orange is too hot. Try heating your wick only to a dull red. Hold that color for 15-20 seconds. Only torch it once. Do not quench. A properly torched wick shouldn't be black. It should be brown. After the torching, do 3 juice burns. Put a couple drops of juice on the wick, and light it with a lighter. Again, do not quench. This procedure will give you an oxidized wick which will still be slightly flexible.
It surprises me no one has asked you yet - you are carefully lining up the air hole with the wick, right? With your vapor and burnt taste issues I though maybe this is your problem, but pretty basic so probably not. 
If you feel the draw is too loose, try some direct-lung-inhales - works very well for me and "loose" gennies.
The "hot legs" are caused by shorts - not properly oxidized or rolled wick. Make very sure you fold over that last turn of mesh on itself and that there are no loose "hairs" poking off the mesh anywhere.
Since you seem to be popping coils a lot, you must not be using the pulse method. You've got to have read about or seen it by now, give it a shot.
If you feel the draw is too loose, try some direct-lung-inhales - works very well for me and "loose" gennies.
The "hot legs" are caused by shorts - not properly oxidized or rolled wick. Make very sure you fold over that last turn of mesh on itself and that there are no loose "hairs" poking off the mesh anywhere.
Since you seem to be popping coils a lot, you must not be using the pulse method. You've got to have read about or seen it by now, give it a shot.
Will build a new wick tonight.
It surprises me no one has asked you yet - you are carefully lining up the air hole with the wick, right? With your vapor and burnt taste issues I though maybe this is your problem, but pretty basic so probably not.
If you feel the draw is too loose, try some direct-lung-inhales - works very well for me and "loose" gennies.
The "hot legs" are caused by shorts - not properly oxidized or rolled wick. Make very sure you fold over that last turn of mesh on itself and that there are no loose "hairs" poking off the mesh anywhere.
Since you seem to be popping coils a lot, you must not be using the pulse method. You've got to have read about or seen it by now, give it a shot.
Air hole is lined up! I have the last flap folded and I learned the pulse method after popping a few coils and getitng ...... off. Thank you eHuman!
The pulse shall set you free!
And remember, no quenching, like the man with the African Grey said.
And remember, no quenching, like the man with the African Grey said.
don't use the drill bit method if you are a beginner. it creates more problems that it solves. learn to wrap the coil by hand. is very easy to do after you do it for a period of time. don't just assume you can make a good coil just like that. it takes practice like everything else. don't call it quits after a few tries. try again until u get it. it needs the time it needs. deal with it
Started a new job, have been using my Phoenix for the time being with my VAMO. I'm going to sit down tomorrow and properly heat a new wick with my torch and take all of your advice and use it wisely.
If I'm still having issues, I'll contact BuckeyeVapors and see if I can't get some time with someone there.
If I'm still having issues, I'll contact BuckeyeVapors and see if I can't get some time with someone there.
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Congrats on the new job Dana! Sorry, I'm a lot late to the party here, but I thought I'd throw in my two cents. The AGA's are a bit fiddly when it comes to genni's. That is why you'll hear most vets tell you you that if you can figure them out you can pretty much set up any genii on the market. Mine took some time, and patience. I never oxidize my whole wick as it made my juice not wick or taste as good by the time my juice got to bottom of the tank. So that being said I burn the whole piece of mesh once on each side, roll it (with the small fold), and then burn the top (where the coils sit and where it goes through the atty deck). As for wrapping coils the secret is in how tight or loose you wrap. Too tight = cutting into wick, and shorts. Too loose = not getting juice so burning hotter than the coils that are touching. Also as a side note with the T+ the top leg that extends from your mesh to the center post needs to be as short as possible without touching mesh to center post. When done correctly it will look like your wick will look slightly bent towards the post (do this by positioning the wick NOT by pulling the wire as you could cut through oxidation). Hope any of this info helped and good luck to you. Be patient and try because when you get it rocking it is phenomenal!
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The best!!!
I just rolled my first sub ohm, unbelievable
3/4 wrap 28g kanthal 0.8 ohms AGA T2
Just the second wick I've done!
Outstanding!!! Never going to use a carto or clearo again!
The best!!!
I just rolled my first sub ohm, unbelievable
3/4 wrap 28g kanthal 0.8 ohms AGA T2
Just the second wick I've done!
Outstanding!!! Never going to use a carto or clearo again!
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On my first 0.8 ohm coil/mesh wick and first tank of juice on new AGA-T2 and am kind of astonished. I thought it took several tanks before vapor and flavor were good. This thing was great from the first vape. If they break in over time, I can't imagine what it will do. I also paired it to a Telescope mechanical instead of one of my regulated mods. My new favorite!
i never had a break in period. if the vape is not right for me at first one i inspect closely the coil and wick to see how they interact with each other. the good setup is good starting with the first vape. usually the coil is very good for about 1 month and then starts to lower the vapor production due to gunk. i sometimes dry burn it but i like making coils so is not a problem for me making a new one which usually rocks right from the beginning. i usually like twisted coils. this is my 2 weeks old one.
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It usually jumps to the next gauge, when you'd think it would double it.
And to each there own, as only having 32 g in the beginning I used to make twisted coils. I switched to ribbon because of the surface area, and looking at a twisted wire, a lot of the surface area curls off of the wick
lower ofc. not half but around 3/4. the thicker the wire the lower the resistance. i can't find ribbon wire around here so i'm starting to make my own. ofc i need to make some tool for that cause the wire im making is not consistently flat
I have finally figured out my problem; it has nothing to do with my ability to oxidize a wick, it's my ability to adjust coils. I tried using silica, and I got what looks to me like a perfectly evenly heating coil, and it tasted like a combination of burnt paper and terrible pot. I either Can't see shades of orange and red or I'm dumb. After starting this job, I no longer have the mental capacity to fight with this thing. Until I understand the science behind this, there is next to no hope for this device.
Also, as far as Buckeye Vapors, the owner is... someone I refuse to give my business to. He refuses to reveal his liquid source, which I asked for simply to research the company's reputation. When I asked him where he gets the liquid from, he was a snobby ... about it.
Also, as far as Buckeye Vapors, the owner is... someone I refuse to give my business to. He refuses to reveal his liquid source, which I asked for simply to research the company's reputation. When I asked him where he gets the liquid from, he was a snobby ... about it.
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I think the problem most people have is they don't account for how much the coil shrinks when it's first fired. Even if you pre torch it it'll still shrink. So if it's tight when you put the wick in it'll be really tight when you fire it. Once you figure that out even unoxidized wicks are a breeze.
we all gone through that period. just don't give up. i bought 10 meters of wire and started coiling for about a week. its just very easy once you get it.
The problem with the way I learn and think, I don't understand things until I understand the science behind it, the chemistry and physics as a whole.
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