Again! I´m back smoking

[Soon to be E]

I don´t know why, but even after going up in mg (I was smoking 16/18 mg, went up to 21), vaping isn´t doing the trick. I try not to buy, but smoking is always in the back of my head. I´m ordering some new flavors, not giving up entirely, but I´ll try to smoke myself to death and switch back. I hate this. My DSE901 and KR808 give good vapes with plenty of vapor, I never run out of batts, have plenty of spares of all kind but... Fighting smoking is getting too hard...

 

[Deschain]

A lot of folks here supliment with snus...seems to work for them


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[panewtovaping]

Don't despair! For the first month I smoked and vaped. Depending on stress levels which one I favored that day. Then I noticed I was smoking less and less and have now been smoke free for 24 days! Still get an occasional urge but it's not strong. I use 24mg. Don't know if that helped or not. Finding a flavor you really like helps too.

 

[bigozone]

i couldn't give up cigs until i made a 6v battery mod and used it with 36mg juice.

even a 5v pass thru w/ 36mg still left me craving an analog. but after hitting 6v with 36mg i was able to forget about cigs, and i've been slowly decreasing my vaping frequency. in 3 weeks i'm down to 3 carts a day! but still at 36mg

 

[Elapid]

Defiantly go to 36mg, you aren't going to give yourself nicotine poisoning I promise. I chain vape 36mg @ 5 volts and the Joneses for tobacco are gone. Better to vape 36mg than smoke an analog. Best of luck leaving tobacco behind you.

 

[Birdy]

For me it was a mental thing, not so much a physical craving.

I was having some difficulty until I decided that if I really wanted a cigarette then I could have one (but no more that 2-3 a day). I had my husband hold the pack and he'd give me one any time I asked for one- not to police me but rather to stop me from just sitting there with my pack and chain smoking mindlessly.

After about 5 days I realized that I just didn't want one (actually that I'd forgotten to smoke). Somehow knowing that I could if I wanted to, and I wouldn't feel guilty about it if I did... it just took the pressure off. I forgot about smoking.

Sometimes over focusing on Quitting just makes you obsess about it. And the more you obsess the more likely it is to trigger you. And once you're triggered and "give in" ... you think all is lost and screw it, you might as well just smoke the whole pack.

So maybe ease up on yourself a little, let it be ok to smoke one if you need to, knowing that you're trying and that you will eventually succeed.

I don´t know why, but even after going up in mg (I was smoking 16/18 mg, went up to 21), vaping isn´t doing the trick. I try not to buy, but smoking is always in the back of my head. I´m ordering some new flavors, not giving up entirely, but I´ll try to smoke myself to death and switch back. I hate this. My DSE901 and KR808 give good vapes with plenty of vapor, I never run out of batts, have plenty of spares of all kind but... Fighting smoking is getting too hard...

 

[kase]

Defiantly go to 36mg, you aren't going to give yourself nicotine poisoning I promise. I chain vape 36mg @ 5 volts and the Joneses for tobacco are gone. Better to vape 36mg than smoke an analog. Best of luck leaving tobacco behind you.

I agree with Elapid, increase nic with supreme defiance!!!!!

 

[dwolfe88]

Well said Birdy, That is great advice!

 

[TWISTED VICTOR]

I'd have to agree with Deschain. You've been off smokes for a while and I assume your nic level is satisfying, you're happy with your PV's, so an increase in nic mg may not change anything. What I've experienced is the loss of the alkaloids responsible for relaxation, mental focus and antidepressant effect create their own craving. A "somethings missing" kind of craving. No nicotine level will touch it. If this is the problem, a few smokes a day will probably put you back where you want to be, also, as Deschain brought up, many in this boat find relief in snus. Snus contains the alkaloids, too. Men and women alike have taken to it as a means to stay off the analogs. Don't feel bad. If this is the problem, it's more than the addiction to nic, it's a way of self medicating that, if left unchecked, can lead to depression. I hope things work out for you .

 

[Liscab]

don't try to quit analogs,just reduces them,I could't do it from the first time, just keep the EC to watch tv or to vape at work if you are indoor and so on

 

[jj2]

Go slow. If you're obsessing about an analog, have one, two, or what ever it takes to get you out of the panic you've got yourself into. Then set a goal and decrease you tobacco use gradually and fill in with vaping.
New Years is coming, it would be a good resolution---smoke free 2010.

 

[Harlequin]

Somehow knowing that I could if I wanted to, and I wouldn't feel guilty about it if I did... it just took the pressure off. I forgot about smoking.

Sometimes over focusing on Quitting just makes you obsess about it. And the more you obsess the more likely it is to trigger you. And once you're triggered and "give in" ... you think all is lost and screw it, you might as well just smoke the whole pack.

So maybe ease up on yourself a little, let it be ok to smoke one if you need to, knowing that you're trying and that you will eventually succeed.

Bingo, give the lady an e-cigar

This has been exactly my experience. I never thought I'd be able to quit smoking (25 year 20/day Marlboro Red habit), because frankly I really enjoyed it, and I basically got into vaping because I resented having to go outside to smoke.

Once I'd figured out the nic level issue (26 mg is best for me), I quickly realized that I actually preferred vaping to smoking. It tastes way better, I smell and breathe better, all those good things. So, while I never felt any huge pressure to QUIT SMOKING, I just naturally found myself vaping more and smoking less - this was all within a week. About three weeks into my new life as a vaper, I'll still occasionally have a cigarette (if all my batteries are down for the count, or whatever) but I won't beat myself up for it because I know that there's simply no way I'll ever go back to smoking. Vaping is better, period.

 

[Soon to be E]

Thanks everyone! One thing is good though, I don´t obsess about not having enough cigarrettes. Today I came back home with half a pack and I don´t worry, I know if I run out I can always vape!

 

[Soon to be E]

Don't despair! For the first month I smoked and vaped. Depending on stress levels which one I favored that day. Then I noticed I was smoking less and less and have now been smoke free for 24 days! Still get an occasional urge but it's not strong. I use 24mg. Don't know if that helped or not. Finding a flavor you really like helps too.

I started vaping in June... Gave up because I didn´t have enough spares... Second try in September, I vaped with the ocasional smoke for almost 2 months... Now I´m smoking again... I´m doubting the long term effects for me...

 

[JerryRM]

I started vaping early in September, I wanted to cut down on my smoking, with no intention of quitting. After a few weeks, I found myself vaping more and smoking less. By the end of October, I was smoking so little, that I decided to stop altogether. I haven't had a cigarette in 38 days.

My point? I think you are trying to rush yourself into quitting smoking. Try just being happy with cutting down on your smoking for now and see what happens over time.

 

[umop apisdn]

Bingo, give the lady an e-cigar

This has been exactly my experience. I never thought I'd be able to quit smoking (25 year 20/day Marlboro Red habit), because frankly I really enjoyed it, and I basically got into vaping because I resented having to go outside to smoke.

Once I'd figured out the nic level issue (26 mg is best for me), I quickly realized that I actually preferred vaping to smoking. It tastes way better, I smell and breathe better, all those good things. So, while I never felt any huge pressure to QUIT SMOKING, I just naturally found myself vaping more and smoking less - this was all within a week. About three weeks into my new life as a vaper, I'll still occasionally have a cigarette (if all my batteries are down for the count, or whatever) but I won't beat myself up for it because I know that there's simply no way I'll ever go back to smoking. Vaping is better, period.

That's pretty much my mindset in a nutshell. The only pack I bought since I had my PV was when I experimented with an illicit type of mushroom. I figured I wouldn't be able to drip/screw in the atty/deal with the PCC at the time, but it turned out I was too busy with my mind blown to deal with a cigarette. The 18 I had left just sat there teasing me for the next week. I knew I wanted to smoke them, but I just didn't like them as much compared to vaping.

I still smoke an occasional cigarette when someone offers. Sometimes I give them my 510 to try out even. The more you think about quitting smoking when you vape, the worse it gets. Keeping a can of snus on my desk next to my passthrough does kill any craving that the nic just doesn't satisfy, but those cravings are few and far between with vaping. So much that the same can of snus (12 pouches) has lasted me 3 weeks, and I still have a third of it left.

What I'd like to see is a juice with low levels of the alkaloids. If they had them, I think it would be the killing blow to the cigarette industry, but another source of controversy for vaping. (though, controversy is never really a bad thing when it comes to something not so well known)

 

[Liscab]

I started vaping early in September, I wanted to cut down on my smoking, with no intention of quitting. After a few weeks, I found myself vaping more and smoking less. By the end of October, I was smoking so little, that I decided to stop altogether. I haven't had a cigarette in 38 days.

My point? I think you are trying to rush yourself into quitting smoking. Try just being happy with cutting down on your smoking for now and see what happens over time.

Ditto ..........................

 

[Shadowdr]

Thanks everyone! One thing is good though, I don´t obsess about not having enough cigarrettes. Today I came back home with half a pack and I don´t worry, I know if I run out I can always vape!

That's a really good sign, I well remember leaving home without any smokes. Before April I would have been in a panic, but it became a habit not to obsess about having them with me. You have actually broken part of the addiction, perhaps just some of the mental parts but still, it is a good start.

I notice that you are from Argentina, now I am not sure what kind of ciggs you smoke but I would think that there are probably less restrictive controls there as far as nic strength. I live near a tobacco hub and much of it is shiped overseas or at least internationally. The main reason it is shipped is that the nicotine level is just to high for use in this country. It may be that the nic level there is higher, maybe not but I know that below 30 mg's and I will start smoking again. I tried 18 and even 24 and could not get enough to stay off completely. The higher the nic the less I will vape, with 36 I will take a few hits and lay it down for a while.

 

[ProfessorDaffy]

I don´t know why, but even after going up in mg (I was smoking 16/18 mg, went up to 21), vaping isn´t doing the trick. I try not to buy, but smoking is always in the back of my head. I´m ordering some new flavors, not giving up entirely, but I´ll try to smoke myself to death and switch back. I hate this. My DSE901 and KR808 give good vapes with plenty of vapor, I never run out of batts, have plenty of spares of all kind but... Fighting smoking is getting too hard...

Do you feel the nicotine? I didn't get as much feel for the nicotine when the 901, although I used it for about a month before switching to the 510. If you're not feeling it, maybe it's not delivering enough. I just started picking up my 901 with an ADM mod and it's working better than every. A lost more consistent vapor and nicotine delivery.

There's no law that says you can't smoke. Ask the FDA. But instead of boxing up your stuff try 1, 2, or 3 cigarettes a day. It doesn't have to happen overnight. If you're fighting a mental battle is your choice how to wage war. Maybe just a cigarette in the morning or just when you have to have it will help you through the hard times.

Don't give up, but don't beat yourself up either. Just remember you're doing it for yourself and that's the only person you have to satisfy.

--Prof Daffy

 

[316lvm]

That's the problem - fighting the urge. Don't fight it. Just go with what your body is telling you and don't quit.

It took you quite a while to build up to smoking. You had to try different brands, flavors. I bet you didn't start smoking say 2 packs of cigs a day at the beginning did you?

Same with vappping. It's gonna take time for you to find the right strength, flavor and amount of vapping.

When I stopped fighting with myself about smoking and vapping, is when I noticed that my smoking has tapered down to maybe one cig every other day.

I look at it this way, to go from smoking 2 packs of Marlb. a day for the last 20 years to maybe 1 cig every other day while vapping is a miracle. If it takes me another 4 weeks to go to 1 cig every three days, then so be it. It's still a miracle.

So don't give up. Be proud of what you have accomplished.