Again! I´m back smoking

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jghunter1

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If vaping reduces your smoking at all it's probably better for you in the long run. I don't know how much you smoke (-did you say? Maybe I missed it?) But l assume you smoke at least a pack a day. If you cut down to half a pack or less you will be cutting the tar and carcinogens you consume in HALF. My original goal was just to get to under 1/4 pack a day. I would have been perfectly happy with that but I was able to quit after 3 wks vaping. BUT I might have an anaolog again sometime. And that's OK! If I must, then I will, but I will continue to vape too.
 

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As has been said, the crossover from smoking to vaping should be gradual and in most cases it will come natually. Some people take a couple of months, some a few days some a few weeks, then maybe there are some who do the instant crossover.

I agree that firstly it's all about finding the correct nic level strength to begin. That would depend on whether you were a light medium or heavy smoker. Using my example I fell into the latter category. My mistake if I could call it that, was using 15mg-18mg nic liquids/carts. It was a good initiation into vaping and I would unconsciously find myself spending more time with my PV/delivery device and less time with cigarettes. There were social factors at play too. Working in an environment where smoking is prohibited and where smoke breaks were few and far between made spending more time with my PV obligatory, and after a couple of months of fine tuning techniques like filling carts, trying different models, timing battery charging, and resolving spares issues like the dreaded dead atty, I wondered why I couldn't make the crossover completely. I still needed my analog fix, but only 2-3 per day as opposed to 30 odd per day two months previous. I didn't fight the analog urge, but allowed things to just "happen" but when I received some 24mg juice after a couple of days I simply said to myself, ok I've got the nic strength I need to do the crossover, and then that was it. I do remember my last few cigarettes as less than half smoked because by the time I crossed over to complete vaping, my brand of cigarettes no longer had the allure for me. They had less throat hit than my vaping and they tasted horrible.
The device one uses also plays a role in whether one can make that transistion. The minis won't help. Gimmicks don't work. Generics only serve to increase the frustration levels in an already pretty frustrating activity. You will always have a bad eday- something won't work whether it be carts, batts, liquid or atty-or a combo of everything, and murphys law will have it that your back up devices will also be hexed on a bad eday. Then everything will be smooth sailing again bar the bad eday hiccup now and then. You will find yourself sampling all the liquids in a frenzy trying to find The One. But it doesn't exist. Your nic levels will increase probably and you'll find certain flavours you can live with but ultimately you will be getting all the nic you require and you will still be missing the elusive "something" which has been defined by the Chemists here as Whole Tobacco Alkaloids of some sort. That's why it has been said that people resort to snus, snuff, dissolvables and even the occasional analog. It is inevitable it will happen to most previously heavy smokers. The jury is still out on the social and light smoker. It may be that these types of smokers can vape low nic happily for eons. Who knows? Maybe they have a different brain chemistry make-up.
So don't dispair, do one, some or all of three things. Change your vape device, get a minimum 24-26mg liquid -or even 36mg and if that doesn't help, then before reverting to tobacco cigarettes explore the snus, snuff or dissolvables option as supplementation to your vaping.
 

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I don´t know why, but even after going up in mg (I was smoking 16/18 mg, went up to 21), vaping isn´t doing the trick. I try not to buy, but smoking is always in the back of my head. I´m ordering some new flavors, not giving up entirely, but I´ll try to smoke myself to death and switch back. I hate this. My DSE901 and KR808 give good vapes with plenty of vapor, I never run out of batts, have plenty of spares of all kind but... Fighting smoking is getting too hard...:p:-x

what do you like about smoking? I think that's what you need to figure out .. then figure out how you can do that with this.. I don't think that this is the answer for everyone

for me I had to find harsh flavors that hurt my lungs a little when I got a good hit to duplicate how I would hot box a cigarette that ended up being my favorite juice taste is a bonus for me and the fact that I like coffee makes the coffee/cappucino flavors that more enjoyable.. I also enjoy chocolate flavors that I've tried so far

I was a pack a day smoker smoker loved cigarettes .. love vaping more now though, for the first week or so I cheated with a few cigarettes but for the most part I rarely thought of them.. I smoke 24mg juice.
 

mergryphon

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Don't give up! I haven't and I'm having my coffee and analog as I type. But I was a carton a week smoker, and this is the last pack from a carton I bought 4 weeks ago, 2 days before my first e-cig arrived. That in itself is a miracle.

I had to up my nicotine strength from 18 to mostly 36 and a 48 or two, and I still crave one now and again. But I figure from 30 or so a day to 1 or 2 is an improvement worth the expense.

Plus I enjoy the flavors of vaping a ton more.
 

Karl the heretiK

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I don´t know why, but even after going up in mg (I was smoking 16/18 mg, went up to 21), vaping isn´t doing the trick. I try not to buy, but smoking is always in the back of my head. I´m ordering some new flavors, not giving up entirely, but I´ll try to smoke myself to death and switch back. I hate this. My DSE901 and KR808 give good vapes with plenty of vapor, I never run out of batts, have plenty of spares of all kind but... Fighting smoking is getting too hard...:p:-x

Hey, don't get all twisted up about it... I'm in my second week of vaping and I'm still smoking... although it's 3-4 rollies per day instead of an entire pack of Winston Lights... and I'm even on 300 mg of Wellbutrin per day... not to quit smoking but for my diverticulitis... but still, if anyone should be able to quit easy, it's me...

Just take it easy... may I suggest getting a USB passthru to play with... they're generally cheap and are a great intro to high-voltage vaping...
 

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FYI, One of these days you will light up an analog and realize that it taste like dirt. Then you will find yourself not wanting tobacco nearly as much as you do now. I understand your problem with still wanting to light up an analog, I tried so many times to put cigarettes down I quit quitting. I wanted to stop killing myself so much and still couldn't break the habit. I think I am the odd case as the first vape I ever had was the end of my smoking, like I said I was highly motivated but couldn't break the addiction. I think with time and not setting dates to stop analogs you will eventually get to the promised land of no smoke. Best of luck with your endeavor, you will get there. Maybe I had success because I didn't look at it as not smoking just feeding my habit a different way.
 

mwahle1

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I think the first thing to do is determine if you are craving more nicotine or the “missing components” of the e-juice.

This is what I would recommend: First I would try the 36 mg liquid. I was a chain smoker and the 24 mg juice was not cutting it for me. I craved cigarettes way too much. Once I got the 36 mg juice (I chain vape it) I was able to quit cigarettes within a few days. I have been smoke free for 12 days.

Do I still get cravings? Yes, but I can clearly tell that now my cravings are not for nicotine, but for something that is not present in the e-juice (probably the alkaloids). So far, it seems I get about one moderate craving a day (so far I have not succumbed to them). The cravings also seem to be decreasing by the day and hope they will continue to decrease.

I would first try 36 mg liquid and if your cravings are still overpowering then lower the nicotine content of the juice, and in conjunction try some of the smokeless products other members have had success with. This will determine if the larger percentage of your cravings are for more nicotine or the missing stuff in the e-juice (alkaloids)
 
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SmilingSlasher

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I went off the smokes for good when I finally accepted what I was REALLY doing......I was giving up the smoking, but not the nicotine. As soon as I came to that realization, I got me a bottle of 36mg juice......no smokes since!! It satisfies my nicotine craving fully, and I have no desire to stop for the smokes anymore.
 
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