My brother's agi won't, i guess you can say, smoke correctly? He's using 400 mesh wick and 30 gauge kanthal wire. 2/3 wraps around the wick but barely any vapor. at times, when he takes a drag for longer than 5 seconds or so, the wick seems to suck up a lot of juice and flood the chamber. could it be the juice? or the rba just sucks.
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Kanj, i wouldnt jump to that conclusion...
I had same problem man. When vaping the AGI at high wattage, which is what u r doing with a coil like that, u are running the risk of melting or shrinking the contact spring running through that shaft in the tank. The way i fixed this involved copper wire and a syringe/paperclip. I removed the spring that was there. Then took my copper wire and made the tightest microcoil on the syringe, about 1.5 cm in length, slid it offf the syringe and placed it where the oter spring was. U will understand what i mean when u take apart your agi. Then i cut the copper coil down to size to accomodate the 510 connector of the deck/dripper part. Good luck to ya. If i finish the juice in my tank tomorrow, ill post a pic for ya, but its simple enough. Coil u wrap should be super tight, zero gaps. U can always cut 11-12mm of a ss syringe and drop it down the center of the stock spring, but copper is a bajillion times (slight exaggeration) better for conducivity
I had same problem man. When vaping the AGI at high wattage, which is what u r doing with a coil like that, u are running the risk of melting or shrinking the contact spring running through that shaft in the tank. The way i fixed this involved copper wire and a syringe/paperclip. I removed the spring that was there. Then took my copper wire and made the tightest microcoil on the syringe, about 1.5 cm in length, slid it offf the syringe and placed it where the oter spring was. U will understand what i mean when u take apart your agi. Then i cut the copper coil down to size to accomodate the 510 connector of the deck/dripper part. Good luck to ya. If i finish the juice in my tank tomorrow, ill post a pic for ya, but its simple enough. Coil u wrap should be super tight, zero gaps. U can always cut 11-12mm of a ss syringe and drop it down the center of the stock spring, but copper is a bajillion times (slight exaggeration) better for conducivity
Honestly, who can be bothered farting around with copper wire and paperclips? The problem is that it is an AGI, a poorly designed atomizer. Looks OK but dumb idea. Tell your bro to save up and buy something decent like a DID (cheap second hand). The difference is night and day. If you are anything like me you will come to learn eventually that you pay a little extra for quality gear in the vaping world. But it is well worth it.
I just use a piece of brass tubing to replace the spring. Easy as pie, and hits like a beast.
I have to disagree. I dont pay over $50 for any piece of vaping equipment and everything works great (even compared to my friends using high end stuff). Tinkering around and modding things is fun. The fact is that it is possible to spend much less and get the same vape when it comes to RBAs. You just need to know how.
If someone wants to own high end vape devices, thats totally fine. Just dont try to get some extra "feel good" about owning them by making baseless claims against cheaper ones. We all know how that debate ends. Plus, if you ask me, its just kinda sad.
Look, think about it: the machining or designing of a Genesis style RBA is not hard. Some people even made one themselves from scratch. The concept is extremely simple. There is no real reason why you have to use an expensive RBA to get a great vape.
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I dont have a camera beside my phone and its not enough to show the details. Basically a 2-parallel micro coil around mesh rope wick. The center spring is replace with brass tubing.
Oh I see . . . . Why should you have to modify things that should work out of the box? Why do you need to put grease on the deck plugs to stop them leaking? Why should you need to mess about changing posts and springs? The AGI is cheap trash and does not come close to a decent atty. I have lived on both sides of the equation and I assure you, it is worth putting up the extra few bucks for something decent. I bought a cyclon v2 for 50 bucks last week and I have paid that for DIDs as well. Please don't pretend that your ramshackle chinese rubbish comes close to a well designed piece of gear. The designer obviously did not give a toss about the end user so why would anyone give a toss about them or make excuses for them?
First of all, the "toss" or excuses that people give is to make themselves feel better about spending that much money. Justification? Ever heard of that?
And I dont know what youre vaping on, but RBAs are not made to be used out of the box. Thats, you know, kind of the entire idea.
And thats really funny you mention living on both sides of the equation, because Stevie buddy, youre not the only one who has, so dont get it in your head that you are. I have used both high ends and low ends, and see no reason to spend 3-4 times in my hard earned cash just for a couple of names to put in the signature line to impress people over the internet and get a couple of claps. Maybe a banana once in a while?
If youd like to prove theres any merit to your argument, i wont be small minded about it: go ahead, tell everyone how these supposedly superior well designed pieces of yours vape better than the chinese rubbish. What makes the difference? What are the physics that explain that difference and explain how it translates to what changes in your vape? Have you done any controlled tests? Got any evidence to substantiate these claims? No no, i mean real scientific evidence. Not the " i could feel the difference" kind. Delete that. Goooood.
Preferring genuine brand name devices is fine, like i said before - heck, all those shades i bought for my mom or myself mustve put the sunglass store owners kid through college - but going around discrediting chinese products just to feel good about yourself is getting reeaaaally sad. Kind like explaining why your jokes are funny. Or maybe you do in fact do that? That would explain a lot.
Heres how it works: you buy something, know why you buy it, feel good about it, use it, all the while shut up. The other guy buys something, understands why he buys it, feels good about it, uses it, and shuts up as well.
Bud, we all know how this ends. Everyone from all sides is just gonna stick to their guns and nobody changes their minds; brand name users are just gonna do just that and clone users will use them clones. The only difference is who comes out looking like a total ignorant fanboy. Care to venture a guess? Aint gonna be me, hey i use chinese rubbish remember?
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The shame of it all is, you keep supporting the cheap knock off .... and in the end that is all there will be. No one will bother trying to design something new or make improvements because as soon as he does some ....... will just rip off the design because there is a willing army of short-sighted zombies who will jump right in and buy the inferior copies. If that is what you want keep right on doing what you are doing. I'll continue to keep right on smiling using the genuine article safe in the knowledge that I have a superior product that is made by makers that support their designs with spares, advice and dedication to the vaping community.
Paps contacts and switch, leaky kayfuns, leaky AC9s.
That's three examples of how your "Pay more and don't need to mod anything!" argument falls flat on its face, and they're all from your own signature.
I have all three that you mention. No leaks, no issues. For those that have issues, at least you can address the maker with them and on most occasions they are only too willing to make sure you get sorted. They have faces and you can deal with them. Can you say the same for the makers of the AGI or the clones of chi yous and i hybrids and all of the other rubbish out there?
SteveW, this is hilarious. buy what u want, stand by it. if you want others to see your way, convince them with a list of pros/cons in a non-judgemental manner. i don't get it, calling things rubbish, and calling people short-sighted zombies just because their mindset is not aligned with your's... you may have some other issues that this forum cannot fully remedy, my friend.
ITS JUST VAPING FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. it's supposed to keep you off the real cigs. if anyone is here and enjoying their vape, and are satisfied, they are winners. this thread is an example of someone having difficulty with their AGI, so we try and help, as the OP was not getting the full benefit of the device that myself and kanj and others have been getting.
i would never go to someone who is enjoying their vape and say, that's rubbish, what are you doing, that's garbage, you zombie. you know, there was probably a million other ways how you could have gotten your point across and it could have been well-received, but like most "vape-snobs," you come off as just that. way to perpetuate the stereotype .
ITS JUST VAPING FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. it's supposed to keep you off the real cigs. if anyone is here and enjoying their vape, and are satisfied, they are winners. this thread is an example of someone having difficulty with their AGI, so we try and help, as the OP was not getting the full benefit of the device that myself and kanj and others have been getting.
i would never go to someone who is enjoying their vape and say, that's rubbish, what are you doing, that's garbage, you zombie. you know, there was probably a million other ways how you could have gotten your point across and it could have been well-received, but like most "vape-snobs," you come off as just that. way to perpetuate the stereotype .
You know Stevie, i see "inferior" and "superior" quite a few times in your post, and still havent had that answer as to why and how? Any evidence at all? Im beginning to think you have none, and just blurting this stuff out. Oh, wait, no, not just beginning to, actually ever since this whole thing started.
As to peoples choice in purchases? Welcome to the economy. Shouldve paid attention in that one econ class in school huh Stevie?
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Why should you have to address the maker with something that should work right out of the box? Why do you need to replace contact pin in your Paps to have it working right? It should work right out of the box right? *gasp*
And i just remember something funny. You know that AC9 of yours? The original one leaks, and the RSST, the cheap knockoff, doesnt.
P.S. see what i meant about who comes out looking like a total backwards fanboy? Its getting clear now isnt it?
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thanks guy.. you've all been really helpful... lol anyway i buy this cheap stuff because its cheap. the RBAs that i get are only a fraction of the price of your "superior" tanks. call me cheap, call me a zombie. whatever. you're not gonna dictate how i spend my money. if i feel like i wanna drop a crap load of money on one tank, then i'll go look for a steam turbine. other than that, i'm happy with my aga-t2 and rsst, which BOTH DONT LEAK. imo though, the agi is garbage as a tank, but it works wonders as a dripper. if my knock off can vape as well as your superior tank does, your point is invalid and you end up looking like a fool. prove to me that your tanks are just that awesome. if not, .... of my post. i came asking for help, not criticism.
Haha sorry dphu26, didnt mean to feed the troll.
Anyway, dont give up on the AGI as a tank. I used to think so and use it exclusively as a dripper, but the brass tubing replacement in the center works wonder. Just that one thing turned it into my best tank. Im sure any local hardware store would have the tubing in stock.
It would be helpful if you post a picture or at least describe your problem with some more details. Like are you getting metallic taste? Hot spot? Not enough wicking?
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