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Went to read and found this
"Liquid test results
The information relating to specific products we have withdrawn from sale as part of our testing/due diligence processes has been removed pending legal advice"
One of the reasons I stayed with A+ early on was chatting with Wlad and his sharing of info on potentially harmful ingredients, why he wouldn't do certain things. I learned a lot from chatting with him and from your old "message to e liquid vendors" thread. I read a ton of studies and a lot from Dr. F too. I'm with Louis and Sirius and the rest of the Ahlusionati. I am quite fine where I am.
I imagine what they are not saying is they got threatened with litigation. It's okay though, the (truth?) is out and the post has been copied and pasted all over.
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This same scenario has played out SO many times in SO many industries. C9 notified them weeks ago and asked for a response. Radio silence. C9 did the right thing. They pulled the line and stated why. A proper response from 5P would have been to immediately post those results themselves ALONG with their own testing results (that they have finally released) and ask their customers to please stop using the liquids so they could quickly find out why such a discrepancy. At that point, all liability goes to the labs themselves.
IF C9's results were closer to the truth, then refunds or exchanges of reformulated product would be in order. IF 5P's results were closer to the truth, then they were upright, up front, and proactive.
BUT... They had already stepped in it. They had already told existing customers that there was NO DA or AP in their liquids, which they knew to be patently false. This should be enough to seal their fate imho. But it won't. Suicide bunny is still in business, and 5P will continue to cater to those who buy into the marketing, and the "prestige".
I knew this well in wine. There were those who bought great wine, and those who bought great labels. They're not mutually exclusive, but the difference was love of great wine and love of prestige and bragging rights. And this guy from 5P has taken his act right out of the Cult Wine playbook. Limited availability, opulent packaging, hype, arrogance and hubris. Sucks em right in to believing that having your product somehow makes them special, better than the rest. Oh man, that special feeling when I'm with other vapers and I pull out my bottle of 5P. Don't get me wrong, I've tried it. It's good juice. And not everyone who likes it or buys it is a snob or a sucker. I am certain there are many who have found it to be their genuine favorite. But is it, at almost $1/ml 4 times better than Ahlusion which can be had at times for 25 cents/ml? No. Is it 2x better? No. Is it as good? imho, No, but I only have 1 data point.
What IS going to hurt them though, is that the bloom is now off the rose. It isn't going to make you cool to whip out your bottle of 5P anymore at vape events.Their "label" is tarnished, and those that were BUYING it for the label, will look for the next hustlers slick brand. I have no doubt, one will be along shortly.
I was just at the Ahlusion website and Rasputin and Yin Yang appear to be available now. I was able to add both to my cart. Still a 25% discount showing on the site. Will there be a better sale for the 4th? Hmm..holding out for now...
You are right, but if they do 45% off for the 4th, I will kick myself if I ordered today! If they stay at 25% off through the weekend of the 4th, I will go ahead and order next Monday. I have plenty of juice to vape in the meantime!considering you lost out before that move of waiting is def living on the edge....
So, I have NEVER been able to vape a raspberry flavor, not even any of Ahlusion's. Just never tasted good......but I got a sample of Rasputin and tried it last night. Finally, a raspberry flavor I actually like!
That is all.....
That is all.....
Kittens need adopting, too!! I was more commenting on the phenomenon that kittens at shelters almost always get adopted, while even slightly older cats languish til the end of their days . . . Ooooooh, precious!!!! What's the name?
Yep. Somebody sued, or threatened to.
Eleanor, I'd have no problem with adopting older cats. As a matter of fact, I'm actually thinking of doing just that when my daughter moves out. We wanted a kitten because of my 3 year old grandson. My black cat was 2 years old when we got him and the first thing he did was to bite my grandson. He doesn't like kids at all at least with a kitten they can grow up together!
OT-has anyone tried Gingers? It tastes just like ginger ale! Mine, I think, needs to steep more though.
OT-has anyone tried Gingers? It tastes just like ginger ale! Mine, I think, needs to steep more though.
I really am not sure. I know some holidays in the past didn't have any sales, but I believe some have. I also think the competition is much stiffer right now. Wlad never used to do 35 and 45% off sales and now he does. I am willing to wait and see and won't be too disappointed if there isn't an additional sale on top of the current 25% off. If I was desperate for juice or just dying to try these new flavors, I might act differently.
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