All my mods part1

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l3oertjie

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Raidy, I’ve been thinking about using soder wick for this very same purpose. It looks like a flat braided copper strand but when you look closely it can actually be opened up in a cylindrical shape.
It should also be possible to oxidise the copper with a high heat butane flame to form a 2CuO layer. Off course it is much easier if the braided wick is already in a conical shape - and it wicks perfectly! Busy oxidising one right now.....

(Have been using the wick container as my "on the go" nichrome holder..... :facepalm:)

Do you think it could work?

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Raidy, I’ve been thinking about using soder wick for this very same purpose. It looks like a flat braided copper strand but when you look closely it can actually be opened up in a cylindrical shape.
It should also be possible to oxidise the copper with a high heat butane flame to form a 2CuO layer. Off course it is much easier if the braided wick is already in a conical shape - and it wicks perfectly! Busy oxidising one right now.....

(Have been using the wick container as my "on the go" nichrome holder..... :facepalm:)

Do you think it could work?

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Might work but early on raidy mentioned the "benefits" of stainless steel most being that it is already heavily used in the food industry and especially for high temp (grills) environments.

I don't know what or how copper might react to the temp and juice.
 

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Raidy, I’ve been thinking about using soder wick for this very same purpose. It looks like a flat braided copper strand but when you look closely it can actually be opened up in a cylindrical shape.
It should also be possible to oxidise the copper with a high heat butane flame to form a 2CuO layer. Off course it is much easier if the braided wick is already in a conical shape - and it wicks perfectly! Busy oxidising one right now.....

(Have been using the wick container as my "on the go" nichrome holder..... :facepalm:)

Do you think it could work?

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I'm not so sure about that,,, Not that you may not get it to work but if it is something that you would want to inhale. Back in the day I use to build a lot of pipes for smoking (never mind what) there were some materials that was just considered taboo. And that was one of them. OK for smoking through was glass, brass, stainless steel, and alum. (well apples were OK too) but NEVER copper.
 

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Might work but early on raidy mentioned the "benefits" of stainless steel most being that it is already heavily used in the food industry and especially for high temp (grills) environments.

I don't know what or how copper might react to the temp and juice.

Yup, nubee... You and raidy may be correct. This from wiki:
Copper(II) oxide is an irritant. It also can cause damage to the endocrine and central nervous system. Contact to the eyes can cause irritation and contact to the skin can cause irritation. Ingesting cupric oxide powder can result in a metallic taste, nausea, vomiting and stomach pain. In more severe cases, there may be blood in vomit or black or tarry stools, jaundice and enlarged liver. Blood cells rupture resulting in circulatory collapse and shock. Inhalation can lead to damage to the lungs and septum. Inhalation of fumes during smelting of cupric oxide powder can lead to a disease called metal fume fever, which can result in flu like symptoms.Copper (II) oxide can cause a toxic build-up of copper in a small subset of the population with Wilson's disease. Handling copper (II) oxide powder should be done in well ventilated area, and care should be taken to avoid contact with the skin or eyes.[2]. However copper is an essential trace element for the normal function of many tissues, including the nervous system, immune system, heart, skin and for the formation of capillaries [3][4] as well as copper being extremely well metabolized by humans. Copper oxide is used in vitamins supplements as a safe source of copper[5] and over-the-counter treatments. Copper oxide is also used in consumer products such as pillowcases and socks, due to its cosmetic and anti-microbial properties.[6][7][8][9]. The risk of dermal sensitivity to copper is considered extremely minimal.[10]

That irritant just may be great for the ever sought after TH? lol! :facepalm:
 

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I was having a hell of a time finding 400 mesh, I found 250, 325, and 500, but following a lead for silica rope I ran across http://www.mcmaster.com/nav/enter.asp?partnum=92405T17&pagenum=391 It's not cheap, but I like the idea of being able to try all different sizes of mesh.

Wohooo, my Kanthal and mesh should be here next week, I dusted off my mill last night(one of these days I'll put a cnc kit on it lol), I'm ready to go :)
 

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In fact - I am utterly confused now.

It's an irritant.
It can cause damage to the endocrine and central nervous system.
Can make you vomit.
Gives you flu.
Is an essential trace element.
Makes your skin beautiful.
Extremely well metabolized.
Used in vitamins.
Used in socks................................ JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS......... lol

Dunno....... :-/
 

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Go back and read where I ordered from. $25.00 for 2 inc. shipping. I just got an email from them and they said that they do have a buy 2 get one free and that they had some felt overs and shipped me 4 sheets.
Edit: here http://themeshcompany.com/

Moses,, (I mean Raidy) is leading us to the promised land, and I know I have pestered him here with more questions than anyone else has but, it is only so we can find a way to get rid of those damn cartridges. Stock filler, blue foam, fluvial, straw mods, spring mods, tea bag mods, And dripping is a pain too. There wouldn't be so many cart mods if they worked the way we want then to. I have asked a ton of questions to be sure that we get the correct parts to make this work. I think that by the time Raidy gets back from holiday a few of us will have some working attys, then we can learn about his voltage control. That may be a key part to this concept.
 
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Raidy, I’ve been thinking about using soder wick for this very same purpose. It looks like a flat braided copper strand but when you look closely it can actually be opened up in a cylindrical shape.
It should also be possible to oxidise the copper with a high heat butane flame to form a 2CuO layer. Off course it is much easier if the braided wick is already in a conical shape - and it wicks perfectly! Busy oxidising one right now.....

(Have been using the wick container as my "on the go" nichrome holder..... :facepalm:)

Do you think it could work?

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Never, never, never use copper in a atty.
Copper and oxygen resulting Copper(II) acetate :facepalm:, an extremely toxic compound.
Although your idea is good in principle. I'm seaching for that in stainless steel since a long time.
 
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I was having a hell of a time finding 400 mesh, I found 250, 325, and 500, but following a lead for silica rope I ran across http://www.mcmaster.com/nav/enter.asp?partnum=92405T17&pagenum=391 It's not cheap, but I like the idea of being able to try all different sizes of mesh.

Wohooo, my Kanthal and mesh should be here next week, I dusted off my mill last night(one of these days I'll put a cnc kit on it lol), I'm ready to go :)

Take the 325 for "strong throat hit" or the 500 for "vapour king"
 
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raidy

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In fact - I am utterly confused now.

It's an irritant.
It can cause damage to the endocrine and central nervous system.
Can make you vomit.
Gives you flu.
Is an essential trace element.
Makes your skin beautiful.
Extremely well metabolized.
Used in vitamins.
Used in socks................................ JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS......... lol

Dunno....... :-/

Used as micronutrient (few µgr's), never in mg's!
 

raidy

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The copper is on the outside of the pan not the inside. and it conducts heat well.

a water pipe is also made from copper, but not on open oxygen and much other chemicals like PG VG water, nitrate(from air). The problem is not the element copper, the problem is the possible reaction to C4H6CuO4, which is realy dangerous.
Best solution: forgett it!
 
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