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Yes, small maintenance costs, but my guess is juice expenditures will skyrocket.

That's no problem around here..plenty to go around! I am wondering if the mesh would stabilize juice consumption.. It doesn't actually "absorb" the liquid like cotton, bamboo, etc. it just transfers it..
 

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Plan on switching out the Vivi heads with yarn and recoiling them, to see if I can get them to a higher voltage and better performance for me.

Yes I want to do that too, I just don't know which gauge of wire to get and how many wraps to achieve what ohms. Is there a chart or anything like that gives a guideline or is it just wrapp and pray?

It appears the hardest part about re-wicking the nova is getting the coil leads pushed into the head.
 

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Yeah, I posted that one awhile back..you can also enter the code 10off, for 10% of wire. ECFDeal (I think) gets you 25% off wick. He's a very good vendor and reputable from what I hear.

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Oh, cool. Think I'll place an order then.
 

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View attachment 125771 This may help. Enter your desired ohms in the upper-left and it will give you the figures for all gauges of wire.

So does it all come down to the length and gauge of the wire, in terms of ohms, the number of wraps does not matter except for the surface area placed in contact with the wick?
 

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Can't wait to hear how that works. I got through a few dozen pages yesterday of that safe wick materials thread. Finally skipped to the end and it seems they all settled on some cotton yarn, cheese cloth, or gauze. All of those seem like they might involve a little unwanted burning to me unless they're kept pretty wet.

I'm personally not completely convinced that silica is as dangerous as some would like us to believe but I'm no scientist.
 

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Right, each type of wire is given a rating of resistance per foot of length. You could then just deduce, with simple math, how much resistance per inch, etc. Obviously you are going to want as much of that wire around the wick to give you best results, but ultimately it would not matter the amount of coils.
 

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Can't wait to hear how that works. I got through a few dozen pages yesterday of that safe wick materials thread. Finally skipped to the end and it seems they all settled on some cotton yarn, cheese cloth, or gauze. All of those seem like they might involve a little unwanted burning to me unless they're kept pretty wet.

I'm personally not completely convinced that silica is as dangerous as some would like us to believe but I'm no scientist.

Yeah, I can see what could be POTENTIALLY dangerous with silica, but, as you stated, I'm not convinced. I personally don't care too much for it and would rather use an alternative wick material. In these atties, there isn't much of a distance to get the liquid to travel, so it doesn't seem to be hindering that. It's easy to work with in cartos/atties/tanks and I can understand why it is used, as it tolerates heat MUCH better than the other routes. Also, everywhere EXCEPT that thread raves about how safe SS is when used in vaping.. so I'm not sure what to take away from that. Pretty opinion based if you ask me, lol.
 

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Yeah, I can see what could be POTENTIALLY dangerous with silica, but, as you stated, I'm not convinced. I personally don't care too much for it and would rather use an alternative wick material. In these atties, there isn't much of a distance to get the liquid to travel, so it doesn't seem to be hindering that. It's easy to work with in cartos/atties/tanks and I can understand why it is used, as it tolerates heat MUCH better than the other routes. Also, everywhere EXCEPT that thread raves about how safe SS is when used in vaping.. so I'm not sure what to take away from that. Pretty opinion based if you ask me, lol.

Honestly, were heating something and inhaling it into our body. We are putting ourselves at an inherent risk no matter what we used. Silcia, well if we attend and highschool built sooner than 1970, we have breathed in more than our share of fiberglass and asbestos, we have sat around smoky bonfires, hell probably with an occasional tire fueling the flame, we sucked down how many packs of cigarettes....point being, is there still a risk to what were doing, of course, but much, much less than the alternate we have replaced with vaping.

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Yeah, I can see what could be POTENTIALLY dangerous with silica, but, as you stated, I'm not convinced. I personally don't care too much for it and would rather use an alternative wick material. In these atties, there isn't much of a distance to get the liquid to travel, so it doesn't seem to be hindering that. It's easy to work with in cartos/atties/tanks and I can understand why it is used, as it tolerates heat MUCH better than the other routes. Also, everywhere EXCEPT that thread raves about how safe SS is when used in vaping.. so I'm not sure what to take away from that. Pretty opinion based if you ask me, lol.

I'll probably try the cotton yarn, cheese cloth, bamboo, etc., just to see if it really wicks so much better. I doubt any of them will last very long but if I get the hang of making coils and all and it's not that big of a PITA, then one or more of those may end up becoming my permanent go to simply because they're cheap and readily available.

SS REALLY intrigues me except for the oxidization part and trying to roll it into a small enough diameter to be useful for a wick. Seems like that could prove pretty difficult for me.
 

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Honestly, were heating something and inhaling it into our body. We are putting ourselves at an inherent risk no matter what we used. Silcia, well if we attend and highschool built sooner than 1970, we have breathed in more than our share of fiberglass and asbestos, we have sat around smoky bonfires, hell probably with an occasional tire fueling the flame, we sucked down how many packs of cigarettes....point being, is there still a risk to what were doing, of course, but much, much less than the alternate we have replaced with vaping.

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That definitely describes most of my life. My understanding of what happens to silica as it breaks apart in the way we are using it is that it doesn't break into pieces small enough to actually enter the alveoli in our lungs. Not that it doesn't enter our lungs of course, but it seems it would need to go a whole lot deeper to cause the damage that a few people seem to be so worried about.

Some kind of natural fiber is probably a whole lot better as the body can deal with those a whole lot easier. I just doubt that the silica wicks are nearly as dangerous in this application as a few believe.
 

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I'll probably try the cotton yarn, cheese cloth, bamboo, etc., just to see if it really wicks so much better. I doubt any of them will last very long but if I get the hang of making coils and all and it's not that big of a PITA, then one or more of those may end up becoming my permanent go to simply because they're cheap and readily available.

SS REALLY intrigues me except for the oxidization part and trying to roll it into a small enough diameter to be useful for a wick. Seems like that could prove pretty difficult for me.

I don't know. A lot of people say that using a small allan key, precision screwdriver, toothpick, etc. helps keep everything spaced out good and aids in rolling. I figure if you can roll your own cigs, or other things, you should be able to handle some mesh..maybe
 
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